Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66If you've been here as long as some of us, you come to despise stupidity, not tolerate it, regardless of what you're discussing is fiction or fact.
For you to insult me over a debate about characters who do not exist makes you the biggest idiot of all. Im sure most of us are grown here am i correct? I haven't direspected you or anyone, so i don't deserve to be disrespected. I have seen people argue: " Well so and so would win because they look cooler", but im not going to call them names, and get mad over it. I would say that they were being silly.As for Darth Maul. He has shown quite a bit of force techniques, such as resisting a lightning attack, resisting a telapathic intrusion and killing the telepath, dominating an assassin's mind who was about to shoot him, killing another assassin with force choke while levitating him in the air, and is also able to strengthen himself with pain.
And while Maul may have such a resume, it doesn't match Ventresses.
When someone gets mad and starts insulting people over star wars it makes them out to be childish, no matter how long you been here.
It was said Maul prefered pure PHYSICAL(meaning without too much use of the force) dominance over his victims. Him not using the force as much does not prove Ventress was more powerful, it only proves that he chose not to use the force as much, due to his pure dominance method. Most can assume that since he was trained by Darth Sidious, that he knew far more techniques of the dark side then he showed. Again this is where common sense comes in hand.
Originally posted by Tangible God
If you've been here as long as some of us, you come to despise stupidity, not tolerate it, regardless of what you're discussing is fiction or fact.And while Maul may have such a resume, it doesn't match Ventresses.
Stupidity? Most star wars fans i know would laugh in your face for saying Mauls resume does not match Ventress's. Which is funny if you think about it. Im not getting mad at how stupid the statement sounded. For me to get mad would be even more funny.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66Like. And I don't care if I'm debating my only child, if they start saying ridicolous shit, I'm gonna get mad.
Come on guys stop getting so mad. It is not like we are talking about each others moms. We are debating on a fictional universe that we all love.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66Maul's Force resume. See Faunus for further details.
Stupidity? Most star wars fans i know would laugh in your face for saying Mauls resume does not match Ventress's. Which is funny if you think about it. Im not getting mad at how stupid the statement sounded. For me to get mad would be even more funny.
Well getting mad over something that does not matter in the real world proves how childish you are.
Ventress's force resume has not proven to be more than Maul's. They have both show us force throw, force crush, mental manipulations etc. Exept Maul is known to not use his force powers as much, due to his pure-diminance method. What don't you guys get? It clearly states Maul does not like to use higher sith techniques. Not that he couldn't, but because he chose not to.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Well getting mad over something that does not matter in the real world proves how childish you are.Ventress's force resume has not proven to be more than Maul's. They have both show us force throw, force crush, mental manipulations etc. Exept Maul is known to not use his force powers as much, due to his pure-diminance method. What don't you guys get? It clearly states Maul does not like to use higher sith techniques. Not that he couldn't, but because he chose not to.
So your argument is "Maul has better force abilities but he just doesn't show them"? Debates don't work that way.
I said that they were shown using just about the same force powers. It was stated that Maul did not like to rely on the force to win battles, he prefered pure physical dominance. Now if they showed us just about the same force attacks, but Maul held back at using the force, and Ventress didn't, then it would make sense that Maul was more powerful.
Most of the arguements for Ventress is "Well she killed more jedi". If that makes her more powerful than Maul, that means she is more powerful than Sidious. It would also make Vader stronger than Sidious.
Ventress fought more jedi because she fought during the clone wars. She had to use more force powers because she fought against more force sensitives than Maul.
^^^^Although some of your points I disagree with, that is true GG killed dozens of Jedi making him the most powerful villain of the PT era lol....But he makes a good point, we don't know how powerful the Jedi Ventress killed were but we do know none were on par with Qui-Gon who was regarded being on par with TPM Windu. Now I believe even before Vaapad Mace was superior to any other Master, save Yoda and Dooku.
No one said "She killed mroe Jedi so she's better".
You stated that Maul killed an exceptional Jedi, and sued that in your argument. The opposing side stated that Ventress killed more exceptional Jedi. Thus, saying that "Maul killed an exceptional Jedi" does not hold much water. At all.
And GG would wreck both of them, for the record.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66And Maul would out-duel Ventress in a saber contest. However, with the Force, she's got him beat.
I never threw " Maul killed an exeptional jedi" in my arguement. However i do think that if he managed to kill Qui-Gon he could have killed the jedi Ventress killed. Qui-Gon was one of the greatest in the order, and could have been on the council.
Originally posted by Tangible God
And Maul would out-duel Ventress in a saber contest. However, with the Force, she's got him beat.
Can you prove it. Don't say because she was shown using more force techniques than Maul, because like i already proved Darth Maul prefers not to use the force as much. You might as well say Jerec was more powerful than Vader, because he has shown that he was able to do things Vader has not done.
Lol and you say i use A>B>C logic.