Luke Skywalker vs. Anakin Skywalker

Okay, we've all heard how powerful both these Skywalkers are. But since Luke has the same amount of Medi-Chlorian count that Anakin does, which one's more powerful. After Vader's injuries, Luke was supposed to represent what Anakin was to become, and he was seen as probably strong enough to rip Exar Kun (my favoritest Sith Lord evr) apart in his physical form.

Now guyz, let's evaluate what these two have accomplished:

Anakin Skywalker:

The Chosen One; Highest Medi-Chlorian count in the Jedi History

Force Abilities: Anakin showed great strength early in his training, and still became a pretty powerful mutha ****er even though he started late. He was successfully able to land the Invisible Hand even though only half of it was intact. He also has uncanny mechanical skills. As Darth Vader, he could absorb blaster fire with his HAND.

Lightsaber Skills: Even though his Shien/Djem So couldn't match Obi-Wan's lightsaber skills, he could probably out-duel Mace Windu, Sidious, and probably 90% of the Jedi Masters (with the exception of Obi-Wan, Yoda)

Even before the suit, Anakin was said to have great physical strength.

Luke Skywalker:

Luke is just a strong Mutha ****er, in my opinion he could mop the floor with that whiny, bitchy Anakin.

Force Powers: He was able to resists the Force abilities of the entire Colony, he piloted the Millennium Falcon with the skills that even an entire piloting team could match. He mastered Electric Judgment, which could kill instantly. He WALKED on lava, and he could use Force Flight, nuff said.

Welcome to KMC, but wrong forum.

Explain to me how he can outduel Mace and Sidious but not Yoda and Kenobi.

Dude, everyone with half a damn brain would know Sidious played his loss to Mace Windu, for example "POWER!! UNLIMITED POWER!" Kenobi's Soresu was augmented to the point where he couldn't be touched even when Anakin was using all of his rage, and the only reason Yoda lost to Sidious is because he is lighter so in result he flew farther when he deflected the lightning. Yoda could've whipped Sidious kandy ass if it weren't 4 that fact, also, Yoda's been around for over 800 years, and had more opportunities to learn how 2 use a lightsaber, Dooku is older than Sidious, and with the right training could probably best him as well.

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
Dude, everyone with half a damn brain would know Sidious played his loss to Mace Windu

Played? Morelike gambled

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
Dude, everyone with half a damn brain would know Sidious played his loss to Mace Windu, for example "POWER!! UNLIMITED POWER!" Kenobi's Soresu was augmented to the point where he couldn't be touched even when Anakin was using all of his rage, and the only reason Yoda lost to Sidious is because he is lighter so in result he flew farther when he deflected the lightning. Yoda could've whipped Sidious kandy ass if it weren't 4 that fact, also, Yoda's been around for over 800 years, and had more opportunities to learn how 2 use a lightsaber, Dooku is older than Sidious, and with the right training could probably best him as well.

Mace Windu's somewhat dubious victory over Sidious is a result of the fact that Mace Windu's fighting style- Vaapad- is specifically geared to fight dark siders (like peak RotS Anakin), and enables the user to gain some of his opponent's advantages. For example, Sidious was faster, more agile, and was overwhelming Mace in their initial competition; however, Mace used Vaapad's effects in order to gain Sidious' advantages, gaining a stalemate. Which brings us to Mace's next advantage; Shatterpoint. It allows one to detect the flaws within another being, and with it, Mace was able to get the upper hand.

In pure swordsmanship, Sidious > Mace. However, Mace's win in that fight was very much legit.

As for Obi-Wan? Nick Gillard outright says that Obi-Wan is the inferior of Yoda, Sidious, Mace, and even Anakin. He kept up with Anakin because he had perfect knowledge of Anakin's moves, psychological weaknesses, and because Anakin was unfocused and confused at the time.

Yoda? George Lucas says that Sidious and Yoda are equals. Their fight clearly shows them being evenly matched in both saber combat and force combat. There's no use arguing this point.

Dooku isn't half the force user Sidious is- Sidious' feats with the force, including nearly overpowering Yoda, the 'most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known', utilizing a ritual that clouded the minds of Jedi across the galaxy and summoned a lightning storm across Coruscant, being called a 'black hole in the force' by Dooku himself, decimating people with one-handed lightning is far above Dooku's capability. With a saber, it's closer, but Sidious is still faster, stronger, has better reflexes, and is more agile. Dooku cannot beat Sidious.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Mace Windu's somewhat dubious victory over Sidious is a result of the fact that Mace Windu's fighting style- Vaapad- is specifically geared to fight dark siders (like peak RotS Anakin), and enables the user to gain some of his opponent's advantages. For example, Sidious was faster, more agile, and was overwhelming Mace in their initial competition; however, Mace used Vaapad's effects in order to gain Sidious' advantages, gaining a stalemate. Which brings us to Mace's next advantage; Shatterpoint. It allows one to detect the flaws within another being, and with it, Mace was able to get the upper hand.

In pure swordsmanship, Sidious > Mace. However, Mace's win in that fight was very much legit.

As for Obi-Wan? Nick Gillard outright says that Obi-Wan is the inferior of Yoda, Sidious, Mace, and even Anakin. He kept up with Anakin because he had perfect knowledge of Anakin's moves, psychological weaknesses, and because Anakin was unfocused and confused at the time.

Yoda? George Lucas says that Sidious and Yoda are equals. Their fight clearly shows them being evenly matched in both saber combat and force combat. There's no use arguing this point.

Dooku isn't half the force user Sidious is- Sidious' feats with the force, including nearly overpowering Yoda, the 'most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known', utilizing a ritual that clouded the minds of Jedi across the galaxy and summoned a lightning storm across Coruscant, being called a 'black hole in the force' by Dooku himself, decimating people with one-handed lightning is far above Dooku's capability. With a saber, it's closer, but Sidious is still faster, stronger, has better reflexes, and is more agile. Dooku cannot beat Sidious.

And that concludes the debate. Nothing more has to be said.

That still doesn't explain if Luke would best Anakin, I think he would

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
That still doesn't explain if Luke would best Anakin, I think he would

NJO Luke shrug

Which incarnation of each fighter?

The two both in their primes.

ranting

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
The two both in their primes.

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]NJO Luke shrug [/B]

But seriously dudes, Anakin could NEVER resist an entire colony of Force powers, he just isn't patient enough, as I've said before, he's whiny and bitchy and is just too emotionally wrecked.

Luke, on the other hand, is more seasoned and patient, and his patients pays off, as he is able to perform feats than not even Yoda could fathom.

You write as if I disagreed hmm I said Luke.

shit nono

I was talking to people who disagree with us.

Well, NJO Luke would tool the shit out of RotS Anakin.

RotJ Luke would die a horrible, horrible death.

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
shit nono

I was talking to people who disagree with us.

No one can possibly disagree 😐

ROTS Anakin was still able to beat Palpy, as he stated to Yoda that he would become 2x stronger than them both. Mace, ahh, wouldn't stand a chance against Anakin, Naga Sadow, or even Palpatine, as I said in previous posts (do I have 2 quote) that Palpatine was obviously playing his loss like a piano, "Oh, i can't hold it any longer" "Don't kill me, plz!" Palpatine would've used Mace as a toilet cleaner had he wanted to.

Originally posted by Gaevus Mesias
ROTS Anakin was still able to beat Palpy, as he stated to Yoda that he would become 2x stronger than them both. Mace, ahh, wouldn't stand a chance against Anakin, Naga Sadow, or even Palpatine, as I said in previous posts (do I have 2 quote) that Palpatine was obviously playing his loss like a piano, "Oh, i can't hold it any longer" "Don't kill me, plz!" Palpatine would've used Mace as a toilet cleaner had he wanted to.

Anakin, as of RotS, has a slight hope in beating Sidious in a saber duel. He'll be utterly destroyed in a force duel and in an all-out fight.