Originally posted by quanchi112Even though the Ultimate Nullifier has displayed more power than the Infinity Guantlet? Yea. No thanks. I never ascribed to the "Black Alice > Spectre" rationale. The Infinity Gauntlet has done nothing on it's own, close to what the Ultimate Nuliifier has accomplished.
In a forum battle the ig destroys the un though.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0In a forum battle you really think Galactus could have beaten Thanos w/ig if only he would have used the un? No way in hell.
Even though the Ultimate Nullifier has displayed more power than the Infinity Guantlet? Yea. No thanks. I never ascribed to the "Black Alice > Spectre" rationale. The Infinity Gauntlet has done nothing on it's own, close to what the Ultimate Nuliifier has accomplished.
I never subscribed to the Black Alice>spectre rationale either. In Infinity War Magus wasnt after the un he was after the ig. Ig>un.
Originally posted by quanchi112Nobody realized how powerful the Ultimate Nullifer was except for Reed and Galactus and Roma. In a forum battle where one person is armed with the Ultimate Nullifier and one person is armed with the Infinity Gauntlet, it's a matter of who fires first. As a matter of measuring e-penis length, the Ultimate Nullifier has, by far, greater feats than the Infinity Gauntlet. That much, is indisputable.
In a forum battle you really think Galactus could have beaten Thanos w/ig if only he would have used the un? No way in hell.I never subscribed to the Black Alice>spectre rationale either. In Infinity War Magus wasnt after the un he was after the ig. Ig>un.
If the quick draw method can't give you a conclusion either way, measurement by feats is the next best thing. Seriously, if Reed clicked the Ultimate Nullifier and rewrote the entire Multiverse like he did int he Abraxas storyline, what is anybody with the Infinity Gauntlet going to do about it?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0So if the ig series took place after the un was revealed to be this powerful,then it would trump it?
Nobody realized how powerful the Ultimate Nullifer was except for Reed and Galactus and Roma. In a forum battle where one person is armed with the Ultimate Nullifier and one person is armed with the Infinity Gauntlet, it's a matter of who fires first. As a matter of measuring e-penis length, the Ultimate Nullifier has, by far, greater feats than the Infinity Gauntlet. That much, is indisputable.If the quick draw method can't give you a conclusion either way, measurement by feats is the next best thing. Seriously, if Reed clicked the Ultimate Nullifier and rewrote the entire Multiverse like he did int he Abraxas storyline, what is anybody with the Infinity Gauntlet going to do about it?
I am not familiar with the Abraxas storyline. Did the Lt oppose this rewriting of the universe or could he oppose it in your opinion?
Originally posted by quanchi112Perhaps. If the Infinity Gauntlet performed multiversal feats. LT wasn't a part of the Abraxas storyline. Multi-Eternity and Roma, the Omniversal Guardian, made appearances in the storyline.
So if the ig series took place after the un was revealed to be this powerful,then it would trump it?I am not familiar with the Abraxas storyline. Did the Lt oppose this rewriting of the universe or could he oppose it in your opinion?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0So did Thanos only beat Eternity and not this multi-eternity in the infinity gauntlet? I will have to give this a read. What issues and volume of the fantastic four did this take place in?
Perhaps. If the Infinity Gauntlet performed multiversal feats. LT wasn't a part of the Abraxas storyline. Multi-Eternity and Roma, the Omniversal Guardian, made appearances in the storyline.
Originally posted by quanchi112The Abraxas storyline was the first time we see Multi-Eternity. The two storylines do not mesh well. Many a people have tried to reconcile the two. Some people suggest that Eternity in Infinity Gauntlet was a singular 616 Eternity. Others have suggested that because it was 616 Eternity, it was just as good as Multi-Eternity. The way you take your tea is how you decide between the two. Fact is, Starlin never bothered with the multiverse. Even in Marvel Universe: The End, when Living Tribunal summons everyone to fight Thanos, he still only summons 616 heroes, villains and Abstracts. You never see alternate reality versions.
So did Thanos only beat Eternity and not this multi-eternity in the infinity gauntlet? I will have to give this a read. What issues and volume of the fantastic four did this take place in?
Fantastic Four Annual 2001 and Fantastic Four vol. 3, #46-49.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Ill get back to you after I read this. Still I have a hard time giving the un a chance against the ig just based on mulitversal destruction and what not.
The Abraxas storyline was the first time we see Multi-Eternity. The two storylines do not mesh well. Many a people have tried to reconcile the two. Some people suggest that Eternity in Infinity Gauntlet was a singular 616 Eternity. Others have suggested that because it was 616 Eternity, it was just as good as Multi-Eternity. The way you take your tea is how you decide between the two. Fact is, Starlin never bothered with the multiverse. Even in Marvel Universe: The End, when Living Tribunal summons everyone to fight Thanos, he still only summons 616 heroes, villains and Abstracts. You never see alternate reality versions.Fantastic Four Annual 2001 and Fantastic Four vol. 3, #46-49.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The IG vs. UN arguement is an old one. Now, although the UN's power has been revealed to be higher than previously thought, I can see the full IG stopping it just like 4 gems did in Infinity War.As to which is more powerful, the UN. But in this case, versatility trumps power. Space/time=pwned.
Originally posted by fangirl101
did the IG really stop the UN? remember that if someone uses the UN incorrectly that they destroy themselves. So what if the magus simply made quasar use the un wrong? Or what if the magus simply moved space around so that the beam meant for him hit quasar? It's not clear enough how the magus did what he did. And it's not clear enough if quasar was using the UN in the same precise way that reed or galactus would.
What are you talking about?
Originally posted by fangirl101
did the IG really stop the UN? remember that if someone uses the UN incorrectly that they destroy themselves. So what if the magus simply made quasar use the un wrong? Or what if the magus simply moved space around so that the beam meant for him hit quasar? It's not clear enough how the magus did what he did. And it's not clear enough if quasar was using the UN in the same precise way that reed or galactus would.
Keep in mind this was without the reality gem.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
uh...the abstracts that faced off against warlock/magus/thanos with the gauntlet have physical stats that are literally infinite. having the speed and reflexes of the flash wouldn't help.And the IG grants the user total control of space and time and most certainly has time stopping and time travel powers. Rune used just the time gem to time stop the other gem users and steal the gems away.
also, "peak" amazo only had 50% of the abilities of the gog. Thanos would have 100% use of the time gem, as well as 100% of the space, power, mind, soul, and reality gems.
The gauntlet can and has also been used to simply DE-power individuals as well.
This is thanos in a stomp.
So you think Thanos can stop time before someone who has the combined reflexes of Flash, Superman, and WW can stop time? So you think Thanos has the reflexes to stop someone with the combined speed of Flash, Superman, WW, and GL from taking the IG off him when the bell sounds?
I don't think so!
Amazo 10/10 by taking the IG off Thanos before Thanos can do anything..