I've said this before and I'll say this again. Why can't you ******* just stfu and all bone each other already. The debates always involve LS, Escape, NAi, and Faunus, not you GV. You haven't brought in one iota of intelligence to this forum. Not now, not years ago or whenever it was. Pulling a "noobaris" is going to get you banned very fast.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I've said this before and I'll say this again. Why can't you ******* just stfu and all bone each other already. The debates always involve LS, Escape, NAi, and Faunus, not you GV. You haven't brought in one iota of intelligence to this forum. Not now, not years ago or whenever it was. Pulling a "noobaris" is going to get you banned very fast.
So my ancient enemy comes out of the woodwork then. Thats pretty funny coming from you tdtd, being that you have been verbally owned by nearly everyone in the old forums including me.
Also I never said I was a top tier debater. Though to put Gideon up there is dead wrong. And at least you provided some amusement to the forums, Gideon just sucks the life out of them. Hes like an ass blemish that wont go away.
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
So my ancient enemy comes out of the woodwork then. Thats pretty funny coming from you tdtd, being that you have been verbally owned by nearly everyone in the old forums including me.
Also I never said I was a top tier debater. Though to put Gideon up there is dead wrong. And at least you provided some amusement to the forums, Gideon just sucks the life out of them. Hes like an ass blemish that wont go away. [/B]
Right. So you're going to continue embarrassing yourself? I see.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Considering I'm not tdtd, and you have never owned me in anything, I find your continual self pwnage hilarious.Right. So you're going to continue embarrassing yourself? I see.
That you wont even admit to who you used to be illustrates my point. I'll let it rest though, such things are not for the eyes of the newcomers. 😉
Originally posted by Borbarad
Urm. I'm aware of the fact that Lightsnake claimed Sidious could just destroy lightsabers as will. The fact is, that Sidious can do that, on Byss and not encountering a powerful opponent. Now who was talking about force lightning?Aww. Yes. Lightsnake claimed that Sidious can do the same stuff with force lightning that Bane can do. A pretty paradox situation here, because what Bane actually did was not melting metal, but this here:
"He rose to see the wall of creatures pressing in on him, and he unleashed a wave of lightning through their ranks. The bolts arced through the mostly metal bodies; the nanotechnology that animated their frames and gave them life smoked and smoldered, and a dozen more of his opponents toppled over never to rise again."
Great thing, though. He didn't melt down the technobeast, he did just short-circuit the nanotechnology virus that kept them moving. As nanotechnology deals with structures smaller than 100 Nanometers, I bet Sidious, who did short-circuit the lifesupport-systems of Vader and Brand rather easily, would be able to do the same. So, essentially, Lightsnake was right with his claim - you were just both wrong regarding the metal-destruction.
I never claimed that Bane could melt metal with his Force Lightning either, until my last post in the thread (obvious sarcasm).
Originally posted by Borbarad
In fact we're confronted with a metal construct that is exposed to electrical energy. So naturally, some of the energy would be conducted [into Vader's body, the lower part of the suit - which we can perceive because Vader's bones are glowing through his armor]. The rest of the energy would still start melting the helmet. And sorry: There is no other explanation for the small gas cloud we see behind the helmet. Either the upper layer of the helmet turned into gas at that point, or we have a hole in the helmet, where the oxygen from the suit exits.So neither does the energy have to literally burn a hole into Vader's head, nor do you have to see the resulting hole(s).
So...there's going to be a hole in the helmet, but not a hole in Vader's head? What?
Originally posted by Borbarad[/b]
And see. Here is why you're reasoning is simply fallacious. I bet you can find the fact that Luke killed Shimmra in every post-NJO text written about Luke. Now from there, you would have to draw the conclusions that, each and every single time Luke killed somebody, the author of the text would mention it.Now. I don't know a single text about Luke where it is mentioned that, by destroying the Death Star, Luke killed every single being on board of the station. Now...does that mean it didn't happen? Obviously not. In fact Luke literally kills thousands if not millions of pawns [Stormtroopers, thugs, Fighter pilots, crew members of ships, Yuuzhan Vong, Killiks] throughout the entire saga, without one single of that beings making it's way into a sourcebook text regarding Luke.
Similar to that, you can find about 1000 times where Luke used the force, without that ever appearing in some sourcebook text. You can find millions of dialogue lines, never making it into such text. Why? Because the author of a sourcebook would just mention what is important for him. Yet....is the desintegration of the cooling unit important? No. In fact it's even unwanted from the perspective of the sourcebook writer because he has to explain events [b]according to the rules of the SW RPG
. And that Game doesn't offer any explanation for the stuff Sidious did.
Those examples aren't remotely the same. At all.
Also, Gideon's already had fun toying with Faunus for this mistake, and someone did the same to me for making it once. So I'm not going to be an absolute prick about it. The quote was from the Dark Empire Sourcebook, which has nothing to do with the SW RPG game. What you're thinking of is the Dark Side Sourcebook (which I don't think mentions anything at all about DE Palpatine).
Originally posted by Borbarad
"Palpatine shrugged off the crushing impact of a tone of machinery, and then desintegrated said ton of machinery with some unknown force power" <- Does that sound better?
You're right. That sounds equally awful. "Palpatine disintegrated a one ton cooling unit," sounds much better, though. You don't shrug off something you've disintegrated. There isn't anything left to shrug off.
Originally posted by Borbarad
You can mention that line of thought another 200 times, which doesn't make it less fallacious.
It's not. Your examples aren't even remotely similar.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Funny. May I rephrase that: So we can't go by the visual interpretation of things happening in the SW universe? An interesting concept. Because last time I checked, the movies (which are visual interpretation of the things happening) where the highest form of canon regarding the SW universe. But according to you: We can't thrust them. We need additional explanation of everything happening on screen by another source. Otherwise the things didn't happen.
You may not rephrase that. 😛 But, you do have the jist. Otherwise you and I (I assume you aren't over the age of 60, have no injured legs/ankles/knees, and weigh less than 400 lbs) would be able to duel faster than Mace and Palpatine battle each other. That, and as a fencer myself, I'd wipe the floor with Dooku's old and slow ass.
It was clear that during the Dark Empire arc there were several examples of bad artwork. See my list.
Originally posted by Borbarad
Which is really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really generous
What can I say. I'm a nice guy. We should be friends sometime.
Originally posted by Borbarad
I attribute it to the fact, that he has Yoda and Windu jumping at him at the same time. Which mereley leaves him with the decission to attempt and kill one of the two powerful people here [Mace or Yoda] or sent Skywalker and Kenobi to hell. Hence why I stated that he might take one out [attempting to do the first] or maybe two [attempting to do the latter].
I'm happy that Gideon had conceded that to you. You see, KOTOR3, GV, Faunus, myself, and probably others I don't care enough to remember said the exact same thing - which has resulted in he and LS's 20+ pages of nonsense listing reasons why, not only does Palpatine kill Skywalker and Kenobi, but why Palpatine wins outright.
Originally posted by Great VengeanceLMFAO!
You seem to be under the horribly wrong impression that I give a shit what you think about me, Gideon. Im done here.
No one who claims not to care would continue such a defence as you put up (no matter how poorly it was done). You're a child seeking absolution after attempting to kick another when a more powerful presence is around. Take another sabatical and return when you learn how to debate in a civilized manner, and when you learn how to admit when you're wrong.