sundipped superman vs wm thor w/p gem

Started by Dark-Jaxx11 pages

Funny how "infinite" power can be contained in a Force Block.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Funny how "infinite" power can be contained in a Force Block.
I don't find it funny.

I don't find it funny at all.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't find it funny.

I don't find it funny at all.

Ya, that guy has an odd sense of humor.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, it is a reality, Power Gem increases one's power infinitely.
Now I know you are on some dope, trying to sell stuff to the VulcanData. This is a no no. If the gem increases one's power over time then it will never get to infinity no matter how fast the increase.

Gamora, was raised by Thanos,
performed a Cosmic task by operating on Eternity through Galactus,
and baby-sited the child that anchors the entire 616 Universe, (Atleza)
besides being a member of the Infinity Watch who dealt strictly with the Infinity Gems.

Yet, you believe her opinion concerning an Infinity Gem means nothing?

Cool.

That's true. Some opinions don't mean anything not because they are opinions but because they are stupid. Odin will fell Thor with the PG with the easiest of gestures.

dontgetit

First panel,
both Dr Strange and Warlock attack Thor simultaneously,
Thor feels pain, but isn't hurt,
Second panel,
Thor says "no" and with a thought, turns their powers against them.

I agree. But why say 'with a thought"? This is only said when someone does something without any hint of effort. Thor obviously struggled a moment. So what you said wasn't false it was just a slick way for you to sell some garbage.

Jobbing?

On Panel:

Strange attacked Thor, Thor was not hurt and stomped Strange with a thought.

Not Jobbing but super jobbing. Strange can just blink the gem off Thor, stop time, etc. No need to blast Thor at all.

So, basically you'll simply dismiss all the evidence as "jobbing" and "bullshit."

Cool.

Only when the evidence is bullshit do I do this.
Some evidence is not though.

Right, Pip, (a veteran member of the Infinity Watch)
should know nothing about an Infinity Gem.
If you make a thread on WM Thor with the PG against any abstract (even Galactus) it will be closed for spite. So does Pip's dumba$$ opinion mean anything?

Hmm ... I wonder where you got the "1ton a second" line from,
was that a mistake, or "bullshit" as you like to title it?[/B][/QUOTE]

Thanos said "With each passing second he becomes stronger"

Let's not add fallacies to the text friend.[/B][/QUOTE] I'm not implying that Thor grows 1 ton a second. My point is that we don't know how fast his strength grows. And we judge strength only by feats or definition. So with lacking feats or definitions means lacking strength.

I said:

"Thor was already breaking out of the field of pure force,
and after 3 hours,
Thor's power would have increased to an unstoppable scale."

[b]proof

"In less than two hours Thor shall break free"

"And the Heavens will once again be imperiled"

"We can no longer endanger the Universe by trying to cure Thor ourselves"

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I also said in that quote:

"I mean, soon enough,
even a good portion of Eternity/Infinity was subject to destruction."
[/B]

I wasn't commenting on this. But I say that this is also bullshit since power and strength isn't everything. Time, space, reality, mind, soul, etc. (something most high abstracts have control over) can easily fell power. Someone can just go back in time to prevent Thor from even getting the PG or even stop time. Someone can just blink the gem up off him. And that is why that was bullshit pure.

So my statements were not false,
and now you know where I got the info from, (Marvel comics)

But if you wish to ignore it, that's cool.

Some of your statements were false since you based them off of false information in the comics (the comic was false). Canon doesn't necessarily equal validity. Logical canon equals validity. If not then there would be no PIS, CIS, or SvFL rules, for they are still all canon (Marvel comics). Right?

And all this is moot anyway as a Sundipped Superman is way beyond a WM Thor with the PG is at the beginning anyway. A better thread would be Sundipped Superman vs. WM Thor with the PG but Thor has the PG long enough to equal Supes in strength before the fight starts. This would be interesting (maybe).

Actually since PG Thor has no low showings, none of his high showings can be considered PIS.

Originally posted by h1a8
No one claim PIS. Jobbing has nothing to do with the winner, only the loser. And character's words can be either false or Pissy too. Look at what Spiderman said about Sentry and Big G.

People believe that Spidey's words are PIS because Sentry has showings that indicate that he is below Galactus in power. PG Thor has no showing indicating that he is anything less then that which was stated in the comic. Thus, the showing cannot be dismissed as PIS or jobbing.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Actually since PG Thor has no low showings, none of his high showings can be considered PIS.

Who said anything about Thor? It was Strange and SS and others who were jobbing. Thor did what he was supposed to do. If someone fights me stupidly then I'm going to win against them every time.

No, that's incorrect. It's only jobbing if PG Thor was inferior. There is nothing suggesting he was.

Supes for the win, WM Thor would be fitghting it out like a moron.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes for the win, WM Thor would be fitghting it out like a moron.
When did WM Thor ever fight like a moron? And when did OWAW-sundip Superman fight with the versatility he has been acclaimed for?

Versatility be damned. He moved Warworld. and he tanked Entropy. Thor can't top that.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, that's incorrect. It's only jobbing if PG Thor was inferior. There is nothing suggesting he was.

PG Thor is inferior, by a vast amount. Do you know the things Strange can do to this Thor? SS can just use his speed to take the gem off right, or is it that his combat speed sucks?

Originally posted by h1a8

Now I know you are on some dope, trying to sell stuff to the VulcanData.
This is a no no.

If the gem increases one's power over time
then it will never get to infinity no matter how fast the increase.


Once it's fully harnessed, infinite power is acquired.

Thor was gaining control of the Gem gradually.

Everything Thor did, he did with limited access to the Power Gem's potential.

Originally posted by h1a8

That's true.
Some opinions don't mean anything not because they are opinions
but because they are stupid.


Hmm ... So Silver Surfer, who has experience against the Gems,
and who got his info from Warlock, is clueless?

And Gamora who personally wielded an Infinity Gem,
is making stupid comments,
although these comments are being made in front of Warlock
and Warlock who knows everything is to know about the Gems.

I don't see Warlock correcting her comments,
what I did see was Warlock stating the "Heavens would be imperiled"
"The Universe is in danger" because of Power Gem Thor.

Meh, although Warlock had recently been "God" ... what would he know?

Originally posted by h1a8

Odin will fell Thor with the PG with the easiest of gestures.


This is an opinion.

Odin and Thor never battled.

Originally posted by h1a8

I agree. But why say 'with a thought"? This is only said when someone does something without any hint of effort. Thor obviously struggled a moment. So what you said wasn't false it was just a slick way for you to sell some garbage.


If by "garbage" you mean the plain on panel facts?

I agree.

Originally posted by h1a8

Not Jobbing but super jobbing.
Strange can just blink the gem off Thor, stop time, etc.
No need to blast Thor at all.


Dr Strange has been owned before by the Power Gem.

Before the Thor incident,
Strange combined all his Talisman's as one (PREP) then tried to battle Warlock
who attacked Strange with just the Power Gem alone:

"But Knowing in ADVANCE that Warlock Possessed it" (Power Gem)

"I had Arranged for ALL My TALISMANS to Act TOGETHER to COUNTERACT it"

"Which even I KNOW, almost at once, CANNOT LONG ENDURE"

(and this is ONLY the Power Gem)

"Warlock STILL has NOT used his Sixth and Final Weapon"

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Strange reaches Warlock through his Soul Gem to communicate with him,
before annihilated:

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Strange tells Warlock what's about to happen, and Warlock sees that it is true:

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This is Strange talking:

"He sees himself Victorious over me,
DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now
"

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I suppose you'll dismiss this as "jobbing" or "bullshit." .. 🙂

Originally posted by h1a8

Only when the evidence is bullshit do I do this.
Some evidence is not though.


So,
the On Panel statements
that have been made about the Power Gem for nearly 20 years,
the On panel displays of it's power across several separate comic titles,
the official description of the Power Gem according to Marvel Handbooks/Marvel.com,
which all coincide, are all bullshit?

Cool

Originally posted by h1a8

If you make a thread on WM Thor with the PG against any abstract
(even Galactus) it will be closed for spite.
So does Pip's dumba$$ opinion mean anything?


Pip's "dumba$$ opinion is supported/corroborated by the embodiment of All Time:

Eternity!

"Thor .... a danger ... to a good portion of ALL that is Infinity & myself"

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Originally posted by h1a8

I'm not implying that Thor grows 1 ton a second. My point is that we don't know how fast his strength grows. And we judge strength only by feats or definition. So with lacking feats or definitions means lacking strength.


Sounds like a spin.

It's simple, Thor was becoming more powerful by the second,
regardless of what that means in specifics, it definitely still means,
he's becoming more powerful by the second.

Originally posted by h1a8

I wasn't commenting on this. But I say that this is also bullshit since power and strength isn't everything. Time, space, reality, mind, soul, etc. (something most high abstracts have control over) can easily fell power. Someone can just go back in time to prevent Thor from even getting the PG or even stop time. Someone can just blink the gem up off him. And that is why that was bullshit pure.


I think you're underestimating the Power Gem.
Originally posted by h1a8

Some of your statements were false since you based them off of false information in the comics (the comic was false). Canon doesn't necessarily equal validity. Logical canon equals validity. If not then there would be no PIS, CIS, or SvFL rules, for they are still all canon (Marvel comics). Right?


Well, that's a matter of opinion.

The Power Gem had a history before Thor's madness,
and it was capable then, of what it was capable of during the WM Thor saga,
so I don't really see what is so false about what took place on panel.

Originally posted by h1a8

And all this is moot anyway as a Sundipped Superman is way beyond a WM Thor with the PG is at the beginning anyway. A better thread would be Sundipped Superman vs. WM Thor with the PG but Thor has the PG long enough to equal Supes in strength before the fight starts. This would be interesting (maybe).


Hmm ... perhaps, I slightly agree, although,
even though Thor wouldn't be able to win immediately,
Supes also wouldn't be able to hurt Thor,
the battle will prolong, and Thor will surpass him with time.

Imo.

Also, imo, fully harnessed Power Gem destroys Supes.

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
Superman gets ****ed up the ass.

😆

Which sundipped Superman??
Kingdom Come Supes or Supes 1M?

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Which sundipped Superman??
Kingdom Come Supes or Supes 1M?
Neither.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Neither.
😕
Then which is it?

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
😕
Then which is it?
OWAW.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
😕
Then which is it?

Current Supes with a Sundip I presume.