sundipped superman vs wm thor w/p gem

Started by occultdestroyer11 pages

Hmmm..
Current supes is not as strong as he used to be, even after the sundip.
WM Thor w/ Power Gem takes this one, I guess.

Go read OWAW. You have no idea how strong Sundipped Supes is..........fear

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Go read OWAW. You have no idea how strong Sundipped Supes is..........fear

BTW what does OWAW stand for?

^

our worlds at war.

Oh I remember that series!
That's when Superman gained telepathy.
Yep, he was uber strong (all thanks to Loeb and company of course).

WM Thor w/ or w/o the PG gets his ass whooped.
Only Rune King Thor stands a chance.

No telepathy. I think that it was JJ mindlinking everyone if you read back over it. Yeah, Supes had some pretty good showings in this book, which was pretty much DC writing a Galactus vs. Superman and gang book.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Yep, he was uber strong (all thanks to Loeb and company of course).
yeah, he seemed far more uber than even his 'kismet-amped' version, which appeared in the same series.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
WM Thor w/ or w/o the PG gets his ass whooped.
Only Rune King Thor stands a chance.
it's my opinion that this version of supes would have beaten pretty much anyone you put in front of him.

Originally posted by tsscls
No telepathy. I think that it was JJ mindlinking everyone if you read back over it. Yeah, Supes had some pretty good showings in this book, which was pretty much DC writing a Galactus vs. Superman and gang book.

Whoops. I was thinking of Supes 1M. my bad

Originally posted by Galan007
it's my opinion that this version of supes would have beaten pretty much anyone you put in front of him.

I don't remember much about OWAW. Read it years ago.
Was he vulnerable to Kryptonite?

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
I don't remember much about OWAW. Read it years ago.
Was he vulnerable to Kryptonite?
unknown, as it was never used against him. i'd seriously doubt it's effectiveness against him though.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Go read OWAW. You have no idea how strong Sundipped Supes is..........fear
Not strong enough to beat Thor here.

Thor would win, I wouldn't rank SD Supes above Kismet w/Supes

Originally posted by kevdude
I wouldn't rank SD Supes above Kismet w/Supes
that's why i said he seemed more powerful. i mean.... he did.

Kismet Superman went to fight Imperiex Prime himself and tried an insane attack, SD Superman never did anything close to that, fighting Brainiac 13 while somewhat joined with him is not the same. Prob take some time to wear him out though 🙂

Originally posted by kevdude
Kismet Superman went to fight Imperiex Prime himself and tried an insane attack, SD Superman never did anything close to that, fighting Brainiac 13 while somewhat joined with him is not the same. Prob take some time to wear him out though 🙂
B-13 was a greater threat than imperiex, but that's neither here nor there. again, i'm not saying SD supes was more powerful than kismet supes - it's just my opinion that he was, based on what we saw.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Versatility be damned. He moved Warworld. and he tanked Entropy. Thor can't top that.

Yeah because we all know Superman>Infinite Power.

Originally posted by h1a8
PG Thor is inferior, by a vast amount. Do you know the things Strange can do to this Thor? SS can just use his speed to take the gem off right, or is it that his combat speed sucks?

No. On Panel PG Thor>Strange. It is not PIS, he never did anything showing him to be less than Strange.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Once it's fully harnessed, infinite power is acquired.

Thor was gaining control of the Gem gradually.

Everything Thor did, he did with limited access to the Power Gem's potential.

Whether this is true or not it is moot. Because Thor doesn't start off with infinite power and if he did Superman can just take the gem from him before he can think.

Hmm ... So Silver Surfer, who has experience against the Gems,
and who got his info from Warlock, is clueless?

And Gamora who personally wielded an Infinity Gem,
is making stupid comments,
although these comments are being made in front of Warlock
and Warlock who knows everything is to know about the Gems.

I don't see Warlock correcting her comments,
what I did see was Warlock stating the "Heavens would be imperiled"
"The Universe is in danger" because of Power Gem Thor.

Meh, although Warlock had recently been "God" ... what would he know?

These are comic characters who don't exist. Thus their wisdom=wisdom of a foolish human. If they say something false then no amount of wisdom and knowledge they have can reverse the fact that what they said was false. For even the wisest being in the universe can say something stupid or false.

Now if God himself (of our universe) says that 2+2=17 then what he said is false. This means that a false statement is still false no matter who says it (even TOAA).

Dr Strange has been owned before by the Power Gem.

Before the Thor incident,
Strange combined all his Talisman's as one (PREP) then tried to battle Warlock
who attacked Strange with just the Power Gem [b]alone
:

"But Knowing in ADVANCE that Warlock Possessed it" (Power Gem)

"I had Arranged for ALL My TALISMANS to Act TOGETHER to COUNTERACT it"

"Which even I KNOW, almost at once, CANNOT LONG ENDURE"

(and this is ONLY the Power Gem)

"Warlock STILL has NOT used his Sixth and Final Weapon"

...............................................................................................................

Strange reaches Warlock through his Soul Gem to communicate with him,
before annihilated:

..................................................................................................................

Strange tells Warlock what's about to happen, and Warlock sees that it is true:

..................................................................................................................

This is Strange talking:

"He sees himself Victorious over me,
DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now
"

..................................................................................................................

I suppose you'll dismiss this as "jobbing" or "bullshit." .. 🙂 [/B]

Based off what Strange can and has done he can easily beat the weakest of all Gems (the power gem). Thus evidence of him fighting stupidly doesn't prove anything but that he can indeed fight stupidly.

Originally posted by h1a8
Whether this is true or not it is moot. Because Thor doesn't start off with infinite power and if he did Superman can just take the gem from him before he can think.
These are comic characters who don't exist. Thus their wisdom=wisdom of a foolish human. If they say something false then no amount of wisdom and knowledge they have can reverse the fact that what they said was false. For even the wisest being in the universe can say something stupid or false.

Now if God himself (of our universe) says that 2+2=17 then what he said is false. This means that a false statement is still false no matter who says it (even TOAA).
Based off what Strange can and has done he can easily beat the weakest of all Gems (the power gem). Thus evidence of him fighting stupidly doesn't prove anything but that he can indeed fight stupidly.

No,he cant. The Surfer didnt easily take the power gem. So,you assuming that a sundipped Supes could is ignorant.

They didnt say anything false here. Then you ramble on about something that makes no sense and has nothing to do with anything.

You calling the power gem the weakest is beyond ignorant.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Hmm ... perhaps, I slightly agree, although,
even though Thor wouldn't be able to win immediately,
Supes also wouldn't be able to hurt Thor,
the battle will prolong, and Thor will surpass him with time.

Imo.

Also, imo, fully harnessed Power Gem destroys Supes.

Assuming you mean Thor would still win if he is allowed to amp to Superman's level before the fight. I don't agree. If the gem increases one's durability equally with their strength then Superman should easily be able to hurt him since he can hurt someone that has his own strength. Also, speed kills.

Also remember, 2=5 is false even if Eternity says it is true.