Originally posted by occultdestroyeryeah, he seemed far more uber than even his 'kismet-amped' version, which appeared in the same series.
Yep, he was uber strong (all thanks to Loeb and company of course).
Originally posted by occultdestroyerit's my opinion that this version of supes would have beaten pretty much anyone you put in front of him.
WM Thor w/ or w/o the PG gets his ass whooped.
Only Rune King Thor stands a chance.
Originally posted by kevdudeB-13 was a greater threat than imperiex, but that's neither here nor there. again, i'm not saying SD supes was more powerful than kismet supes - it's just my opinion that he was, based on what we saw.
Kismet Superman went to fight Imperiex Prime himself and tried an insane attack, SD Superman never did anything close to that, fighting Brainiac 13 while somewhat joined with him is not the same. Prob take some time to wear him out though 🙂
Originally posted by h1a8
PG Thor is inferior, by a vast amount. Do you know the things Strange can do to this Thor? SS can just use his speed to take the gem off right, or is it that his combat speed sucks?
Originally posted by Mr MasterWhether this is true or not it is moot. Because Thor doesn't start off with infinite power and if he did Superman can just take the gem from him before he can think.
Once it's fully harnessed, infinite power is acquired.Thor was gaining control of the Gem gradually.
Everything Thor did, he did with limited access to the Power Gem's potential.
These are comic characters who don't exist. Thus their wisdom=wisdom of a foolish human. If they say something false then no amount of wisdom and knowledge they have can reverse the fact that what they said was false. For even the wisest being in the universe can say something stupid or false.
Hmm ... So Silver Surfer, who has experience against the Gems,
and who got his info from Warlock, is clueless?And Gamora who personally wielded an Infinity Gem,
is making stupid comments,
although these comments are being made in front of Warlock
and Warlock who knows everything is to know about the Gems.I don't see Warlock correcting her comments,
what I did see was Warlock stating the "Heavens would be imperiled"
"The Universe is in danger" because of Power Gem Thor.Meh, although Warlock had recently been "God" ... what would he know?
Now if God himself (of our universe) says that 2+2=17 then what he said is false. This means that a false statement is still false no matter who says it (even TOAA).
Based off what Strange can and has done he can easily beat the weakest of all Gems (the power gem). Thus evidence of him fighting stupidly doesn't prove anything but that he can indeed fight stupidly.Dr Strange has been owned before by the Power Gem.
Before the Thor incident,
:
Strange combined all his Talisman's as one (PREP) then tried to battle Warlock
who attacked Strange with just the Power Gem [b]alone"But Knowing in ADVANCE that Warlock Possessed it" (Power Gem)
"I had Arranged for ALL My TALISMANS to Act TOGETHER to COUNTERACT it"
"Which even I KNOW, almost at once, CANNOT LONG ENDURE"
(and this is ONLY the Power Gem)
"Warlock STILL has NOT used his Sixth and Final Weapon"
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Strange reaches Warlock through his Soul Gem to communicate with him,
before annihilated:..................................................................................................................
Strange tells Warlock what's about to happen, and Warlock sees that it is true:
..................................................................................................................
This is Strange talking:
"He sees himself Victorious over me,
DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now"..................................................................................................................
I suppose you'll dismiss this as "jobbing" or "bullshit." .. 🙂 [/B]
Originally posted by h1a8No,he cant. The Surfer didnt easily take the power gem. So,you assuming that a sundipped Supes could is ignorant.
Whether this is true or not it is moot. Because Thor doesn't start off with infinite power and if he did Superman can just take the gem from him before he can think.
These are comic characters who don't exist. Thus their wisdom=wisdom of a foolish human. If they say something false then no amount of wisdom and knowledge they have can reverse the fact that what they said was false. For even the wisest being in the universe can say something stupid or false.Now if God himself (of our universe) says that 2+2=17 then what he said is false. This means that a false statement is still false no matter who says it (even TOAA).
Based off what Strange can and has done he can easily beat the weakest of all Gems (the power gem). Thus evidence of him fighting stupidly doesn't prove anything but that he can indeed fight stupidly.
They didnt say anything false here. Then you ramble on about something that makes no sense and has nothing to do with anything.
You calling the power gem the weakest is beyond ignorant.
Originally posted by Mr MasterHmm ... perhaps, I slightly agree, although,
even though Thor wouldn't be able to win immediately,
Supes also wouldn't be able to hurt Thor,
the battle will prolong, and Thor will surpass him with time.Imo.
Also, imo, fully harnessed Power Gem destroys Supes.
Assuming you mean Thor would still win if he is allowed to amp to Superman's level before the fight. I don't agree. If the gem increases one's durability equally with their strength then Superman should easily be able to hurt him since he can hurt someone that has his own strength. Also, speed kills.
Also remember, 2=5 is false even if Eternity says it is true.