Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah because we all know Superman>Infinite Power.
False!
Also Thor doesn't start off with infinite power. It took him many hours
just to gain enough strength to be a threat of getting out of a Thano's forceblock. A better thread would be if Thor is allow to amp to Superman's level before the fight. Because when he starts off with the PG he would be way below a OWAW Superman.
Originally posted by King Kandy
No. On Panel PG Thor>Strange. It is not PIS, he never did anything showing him to be less than Strange.
Strange did everything to show his stupidity. Strange could easily transport the gem off him, stop time, reverse time, release his soul out of Thor's body, etc. Strange just decided to shoot weak blasts at him instead. This proves that Strange jobbed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No,he cant. The Surfer didnt easily take the power gem. So,you assuming that a sundipped Supes could is ignorant.They didnt say anything false here. Then you ramble on about something that makes no sense and has nothing to do with anything.
You calling the power gem the weakest is beyond ignorant.
Kandy, argue this thread however you want. But don't be a n00b. you and I both know that Classic Strange would wipe the floor with Thor and didn't use anywhere near his full abilities. Saying WM Thor>Strange is complete horseshit.
Classic Strange was skyfather on average, if not elder god/abstract at times.
Originally posted by h1a8The comic clearly showed he tried. the comic clearly showed Thor was well above him.
SS didn't try. He rather choose to shoot energy blasts at Thor.
The PG being a threat to the entire universe is a false statement.
This is because most abstract beings (and there are many) in the universe can just blink the Gem away from Thor, stop or reverse time on Thor, take Thor's soul, etc. The Power gem is the weakest of all the Gems. Any other gem will own the power gem assuming equal knowledge with all of them.
The power gem is what backs the ig user with infinite power. You calling it weak is laughable imo.
Originally posted by h1a8
Strange did everything to show his stupidity. Strange could easily transport the gem off him, stop time, reverse time, release his soul out of Thor's body, etc. Strange just decided to shoot weak blasts at him instead. This proves that Strange jobbed.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Kandy, argue this thread however you want. But don't be a n00b. you and I both know that Classic Strange would wipe the floor with Thor and didn't use anywhere near his full abilities. Saying WM Thor>Strange is complete horseshit.Classic Strange was skyfather on average, if not elder god/abstract at times.
WM Thor with PG is overrated he couldn't get out of a force cage, which is basically like a GL construct without the benefit of being strengthened by the will of the constructor. OWAW Superman would have smashed through every energy construct Thanos put in front of him, and smashed the mad titan as well.
Originally posted by AllanklesWM Thor with PG is overrated he couldn't get out of a force cage
Remember, Thor was gradually gaining control of the Power Gem,
as he continued to gain access, he was able to further harness it's potential.
Thanos calculated that after 3 hours, Thor would've broken out,
and basically made it seem like Thor would become unstoppable.
In fact, Warlock stated that the Heavens would be imperiled,
the Universe itself, in danger.
Eternity itself stated
that Thor would become a threat to a good portion of all that is Infinity and itself.
That's wow, the Power Gem can be uber, if harnessed fully.
Originally posted by Starscream Mthat's utter hyperbole
Thor doesn't have the brainpower to truly harness the power of the Gem
He even tricked Thanos though at one point while trapped in the force-cage,
imo, it seems that his madness made him, or was making him sharper somehow.
Still, harnessing the Gems has more to do with will, rather than brainpower,
and during Thor's madness, his will was very strong,
that was actually specifically mentioned. (about his will)
Originally posted by Mr MasterI disagree
Still, harnessing the Gems has more to do with will, rather than brainpower,
and during Thor's madness, his will was very strong,
that was actually specifically mentioned. (about his will)
will is important, but without the necessary brainpower to focus that will and give it proper direction, one can't achieve beyond the basic amp that the gem provides
only one with the intelligence to delve beyond the superficial layers of power offered by the gem can fully explore such potential
so imo, intelligence far out-trumps will in harnessing the power of the gems
Originally posted by Starscream MI disagree
will is important, but without the necessary brainpower to focus that will and give it proper direction, one can't achieve beyond the basic amp that the gem provides
only one with the intelligence to delve beyond the superficial layers of power offered by the gem can fully explore such potential
so imo, intelligence far out-trumps will in harnessing the power of the gems
In Marvel, harnessing items of great power has always come down to will.
In fact, the only reason TOAA selected Thanos
as the one to harness his power was specifically & literally because of his will:
A will enhanced & fortified by his experiences wielding other items of uber power,
which he was also able to harness fully, because of his will,
like the CCU, like the Gems separately, and combined.
Originally posted by Mr MasterI would say that Thanos being chosen to wield the power of the gems almost singehandedly proves my point
You're making sense but I disagree.In Marvel, harnessing items of great power has always come down to will.
In fact, the only reason TOAA selected Thanos
as the one to harness his power was specifically & literally because of his will:A will enhanced & fortified by his experiences wielding other items of uber power,
which he was also able to harness fully, because of his will,
like the CCU, like the Gems separately, and combined.
Thanos' intelligence is virtually unrivaled in Marvel whereas many possess equal willpower to him (Wolverine, Captain America, etc)
Originally posted by AllanklesUhm,Thor was a threat to Eternity and was getting stronger with each passing second. The forceblock was a temporary solution. When he broke out of it he was going to be too powerful for the combines might of Thanos,the Watch,and Strange to stop. Thats powerful, brah.
WM Thor with PG is overrated he couldn't get out of a force cage, which is basically like a GL construct without the benefit of being strengthened by the will of the constructor. OWAW Superman would have smashed through every energy construct Thanos put in front of him, and smashed the mad titan as well.
Supes was also easily contained in an energy field in dong.
Thor would be able absorb the extra solar energy Superman has obtained either way
I personally don't like the Thor but WM Thor itself was beast Power wise plus adding a Power gem is overkill
Unless superman can speed blitz and take the gem out I don't see him winning.
WM thor was also acting like a retard although I can call PIS on the parts of surfer , strange etc who had the option to stop time , speed blitz etc to take the power gem out, I won’t since it’s the only time that char was shown
Originally posted by Starscream MI would say that Thanos being chosen to wield the power of the gems
almost singehandedly proves my point
You're confusing me.
Originally posted by Starscream MThanos' intelligence is virtually unrivaled in Marvel
whereas many possess equal willpower to him (Wolverine, Captain America, etc)
Magus was incredibly intelligent,
one could argue as, or even more intelligent than Thanos,
yet, Magus needed 5 CCUs to create a Universe,
while Thanos became an entire Universe with one.
Why you think Warlock was forced to give up the IG, because of intelligence?
Nah. Sooner or later his will would've succumbed to madness because of the power.
Unlike Thanos, who the LT accepted as the next lord over all that is,
because of his will to handle the power.
Just like why TOAA chose Thanos, on panel clearly stated:
"You were chosen because of your will Titan"
