sundipped superman vs wm thor w/p gem

Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool feat, but I don't think it's that easy, imo.

Drax is dumb like an ox, and never harnesses the gem,
it works on him on an automatic basis like it did with Champion.

Thor was actually tapping into the gem's potential,
he was able to withstand and reverse a karmic soul attack by Warlock's gem,
and a mystic psychic blast, by Dr Strange.

And they weren't holding back, (stated) that's very impressive imo.

At that type of speed, there wouldn't even be time for Thor to be able to think or mount any kind of offensive. Even with Drax, getting the gem out of his stomach is still tougher than removing a gem from ones forehead.

While the gem may potentially be unlimited, it doesn't mean it's wielder is.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SD supes was practically pc level in power.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So bascially Thanos was fighting this guy who has a unlimited power soruce as a back up...then he got his gun to trap this supposed infinite power source Thor............was this gun powered by Toaa.

Originally posted by Allankles
Umm! I think someone already answered this. Eternity wasn't afraid of Thor so much as she was afraid of the gem. In that story arch Thor never got anywhere near powerful enough to be a threat to an abstract like Eternity.

And we're not talking about DONG Superman, this is OWAW Superman. OWAW Superman would have smashed Thanos, unlike Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor wasnt defeated. Eternity didnt fear the power gem when Drax had it,when Champion had it,whenjen had it,etc. He feared it when Thor had it. Sundipped Supes vs. Thanos is another matter altogether. I dont want to derail this thread.

And what - pray tell - does Thor possess that makes him more dangerous with the PG than its other wielders? Apart from the fact that this was a Thor comic and the writer is more inclined to hype Thor? Remember the PG is a power unto itself.

Really, if the intention was to show that Thor had become more powerful the comic succeeded, but his inability to put Thanos down for the count isn't a good sign. He certainly wasn't someone Eternity should have feared at that point.

Originally posted by Allankles
And what - pray tell - does Thor possess that makes him more dangerous with the PG than its other wielders? Apart from the fact that this was a Thor comic and the writer is more inclined to hype Thor? Remember the PG is a power unto itself.

Really, if the intention was to show that Thor had become more powerful the comic succeeded, but his inability to put Thanos down for the count isn't a good sign. He certainly wasn't someone Eternity should have feared at that point.

Thor brings his war hammer. On his own he has the godblast and is very versatile and strong.

Thanos is that damn good. Thor was getting stronger and if they would have fought again after he broke free from the purce force block Thor would have been to much for Thanos,the Infinity Watch,Surfer,and Strange. Thats friggn hella powerful.

Originally posted by The Great Galen

Still think its kind of fishy that a mere gun trapped him,

That was a gun that was so powerful it only had one shot.

Originally posted by The Great Galen

on that note SS, Strange, Warlock and the Infinity Watch were certainly not in peak form so its a wash away kind of feat if you ask me.

Originally posted by The Great Galen

They didnt want to kill him, they were trying to save him not murder him otherwise the comic would have been over at that point.

When they came with Strange and the entire Watch, then, Thor had the Gem,
and this time, they weren't holding back:

Originally posted by The Great Galen

Anyhow Supes takes this, Thor's fight agaisnt Thanos didnt really impress me on any level and since a mere gun can take him out...well.

As for not impressed with going toe to toe with Thanos, winning the fight,
and finally having Thanos have to quit cause he knows he's gonna lose,
is very impressive imo.

Thanos stalemated a trident wielding Odin,
and again, Thor was far from harnessing the gem efficiently,
but he was gaining control with time, by the second in fact.

Originally posted by Avlon

At that type of speed, there wouldn't even be time for Thor to be able to think or mount any kind of offensive. Even with Drax, getting the gem out of his stomach is still tougher than removing a gem from ones forehead.

While the gem may potentially be unlimited, it doesn't mean it's wielder is.

Still, I agree with you,
if the gem can be effortlessly plucked off of one's person with speed,
then yes, you make perfect sense.
Of course, that's assuming that's feasible,
I just don't see the wielders of the infinity gems being so vulnerable.

I'm looking into this AV, I'll have something concrete soon,
I'm almost sure I came across that understanding somewhere,
gems can't just be taken from an active conscious,
unless you're using other gems on them, I'm flipping pages I'll find it if it's there.

Even if the gun was of some incredible origin, im not inclined to believe the blast was anything skyfather level.

Originally posted by The Great Galen

Even if the gun was of some incredible origin,
im not inclined to believe the blast was anything skyfather level.

Remember, Thanos basically stalemated a trident wielding Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You do realize that this comic took place in Infinity Watch as well as the Silver Surfer. 😬

Thor brings his war hammer. On his own he has the godblast and is very versatile and strong.

Thanos is that damn good. Thor was getting stronger and if they would have fought again after he broke free from the purce force block Thor would have been to much for Thanos,the Infinity Watch,Surfer,and Strange. Thats friggn hella powerful.

I'm not sure you got my point. Anyway Mr Master explained that Drax wasn't tapping into the PG, so that makes some sense. As I said the PG is power onto itself, so anyone tapping into it could and should have at the least replicated what Thor did in that story arch.

Some might even have done better. My point? Don't put too much stock in Eternity's statement, his fears about Thor didn't manifest.

Originally posted by Allankles
I'm not sure you got my point. Anyway Mr Master explained that Drax wasn't tapping into the PG, so that makes some sense. As I said the PG is power onto itself, so anyone tapping into it could and should have at the least replicated what Thor did in that story arch.

Some might even have done better. My point? Don't put too much stock in Eternity's statement, his fears about Thor didn't manifest.

Exactly,no one other than Thor tapped into outside the ig users and became the threat Thor did,nobody. Eternity's statements were dead on. They healed Thor's mind because basically if they didnt they were in for one helluva war when he got out of there.

Thor for the win.

Originally posted by Mr Master
If it held Thor, who stomped Strange, SS, Warlock & the Watch combined,
plus he was beating Thanos, who had to quit cause he new the inevitable,
it may well have been skyfather level,
but perhaps as a temporary solution just like in Thor's case.

Remember, Thanos basically stalemated a trident wielding Odin.

I wouldnt call it a stalemate, more liek Odin just got bored and Thanos learned his lesson. Odin isnt the kind of guy to kill for no reason so there was nothing to suggest he was out for the kill,,,Thanos survied Odin not stalemated him.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I wouldnt call it a stalemate, more liek Odin just got bored and Thanos learned his lesson. Odin isnt the kind of guy to kill for no reason so there was nothing to suggest he was out for the kill,,,Thanos survied Odin not stalemated him.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Odin isnt the kind of guy to kill for no reason

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Odin clearly was out for the kill and admitted it on this scan.

.......he said this where.

Originally posted by King Kandy
There was a reason. Thanos had kidnapped his son.

Odin is a collected man.....unless stated dont speculate.

Odin wanting to kill Thanos, and Odin going all out aren't the same thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Odin clearly was out for the kill and admitted it on this scan.

Actually, Odin proved his point about scientifically acquired might not being able to stand... he put Thanos on his knees. After that, they got him to finally stay his hand.

This is not even close to a stalemate.

thanos stalemated odin????..... 😆 😆 😆 love reading this stuff.....but back on topic?...does wm thor mean that he doesn't have control over Power Gem?....think he will need a far bit of contol to be able to beat Supes here....
cheers

meh, it's still my opinion that sundipped supes from owaw would beat pretty much anyone/thing you put in front of him. *shrug*