sundipped superman vs wm thor w/p gem

Originally posted by kgkg

Stoping time doesn't have to be an attack just because Thor ,
or a wielder of certain gem resisted magic does not mean this won't work.

Unless you can shown otherwise ,
if Thor did reach this level of power he would have never been contained by Thanos.

As far Thanos containing him,
Thor wasn't hurt in the slightest,
and it was temporary.

He would've broked out in under 3 hours,
and then become it seems unstoppable, he was already nigh-unstoppable,
it was only a matter of time.

Originally posted by kgkg

and remember this is just one explain am using; speed blitz etc other things could have been used.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I said perhaps, I'm not even exactly sure,
I never speak in absolutes unless I believe I'm sure.

As far Thanos containing him,
Thor wasn't hurt in the slightest,
and it was temporary.

He would've broked out in under 3 hours,
and then become it seems unstoppable, he was already nigh-unstoppable,
it was only a matter of time.

I doubt a speed blitz would be affective, he basically can't be hurt.

I think people are misunderstood what I originally said i proposed that This Thor could be stooped by Other means i.e Gem removal i never suggest he will get overpowered by superman

Originally posted by kgkg

Speed bliltz to take the Gem

I think people are misunderstood what I originally said i proposed that This Thor could be stooped by Other means i.e Gem removal i never suggest he will get overpowered by superman

Imo, if a gem is being harnessed, it can't just be taken off,
but I'll try and find some concrete proof that substantiates that.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm going to look into this a little bit further,
see if there's any mention concerning that maneuver.

Imo, if a gem is being harnessed, it can't just be taken off,
but I'll try and find some concrete proof that substantiates that.

But I did see the gem being removed from people , and other could hardly harness it's power and were actually seemed weaker ( ie Champion)

Again seeing as one can steal the IG from someone, a Power Gem hardly seems invincible

Originally posted by kgkg

Yes that's a possibility but again like you said from my readings I didn't see anything like that. If you do find something please do post. (it has been years since I read that)

But I did see the gem being removed from people , and other could hardly harness it's power and were actually seemed weaker ( ie Champion)

Originally posted by kgkg

Again seeing as one can steal the IG from someone, a Power Gem hardly seems invincible

Superman gets obliterated after a good fight.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool.

No one can steal the IG from Thanos, unless Thanos gives it to ya,
like he did with Nebula.

as for the power gem , I remember Thor taking it out of Drax although drax wasn't taping much into it , and i think thor got the the level where it couldn't be removed at that point in time.

Originally posted by kgkg
Don't play the Why didn't they do it game it's a comic clearly the writers had different plan.

I can come up with millions of Why didn't they do it scenarios in Comics

Eternity feared the power of them Gem not Thor and clearly he wasn't that much of a threat at that point since Thanos contain him for a while.

It's like you know one of those if you let this guy loose he might be a big problem later on.

Could Eternity have stop him? of course thanos did it so clearly he was speaking of what could happen.

Again could Thor get to those level perhaps but from what little is shown

Eternity feared the power gem in THOR'S hands. He didnt feat the power gem in Drax's or anyone elses other than Thanos and the ig users.

Thanos temporarily stopped him. They still had to deal with Thor when he busted out of there. Thor was tapping the gem inside the force block. He also turned the tables when they attacked his mind. Saying Thor was retarded is completely ignoring the story and Thor's actions.

Thor had no limits and the whole point of the comic was to stop him before he gets to that level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm,Strange obviously tried and failed.

What they did try was to brute force him 🙂

Eternity feared the power gem in THOR'S hands. He didnt feat the power gem in Drax's or anyone elses other than Thanos and the ig users.

Thanos temporarily stopped him. They still had to deal with Thor when he busted out of there. Thor was tapping the gem inside the force block. He also turned the tables when they attacked his mind. Saying Thor was retarded is completely ignoring the story and Thor's actions. Thor had no limits and the whole point of the comic was to stop him before he gets to that level.

you keep ranting about how powerful Thor was getting am not denying that but you have yet to show why the Gem could not be removed.

The only things you came up with

"They tried" - NO they tried to brute force him
"eternity was scared" - Yet thanos contained him temporary

Again like i said before NOTHING showed that the Gem could not be snatched and thats the only argument am making

Originally posted by kgkg
I am aware of that but they did not try to stop time , take the gem by speed or other means.

What they did try was to brute force him 🙂

Yet Thanos stoped him meaning Eternity could have stop him at that point in time and taken the Gem away if he was So much of a threat again Thanos stoping him proves my point that Thor wasn't at the level your claiming

I agree what am saying is that there is no indication that the Gem could not be removed

you keep ranting about how powerful Thor was getting am not denying that but you have yet to show why the Gem could not be removed.

The only things you came up with

"They tried" - NO they tried to brute force him
"eternity was scared" - Yet thanos contained him temporary

Again like i said before NOTHING showed that the Gem could not be snatched and thats the only argument am making

Strange tried and failed. What else was he supposed to do? Seriously? He was also shocked when he learned Thanos had contained him.

Thanos temporarily stopped him. Thats the point. So,your telling me Eternity would encase him and then worry about him later. The problem hadnt been solved only delayed. Thanos also boosted the force block and knew he had less than three hours.

Strange and the rest tried and utterly failed. Thor was mopping the floor with them all. They teleported him to Thanos because they couldnt beat him. Thats the point. Thanos had a gadget on him that could temporarily stop Thor. You keep forgetting that Thor was still a very big problem to the entire universe.

You have to prove that speed can just snatch the power gem. Surfer has blazing speed and they didnt even try it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has the power gem been taken by speed? Drax didnt even tap into the thing,thats why Thor took it off of him. If Drax was tapping into it at the time he would have mopped the floor with Thor. No limits.

Strange tried and failed. What else was he supposed to do? Seriously? He was also shocked when he learned Thanos had contained him.

Thanos temporarily stopped him. Thats the point. So,your telling me Eternity would encase him and then worry about him later. The problem hadnt been solved only delayed. Thanos also boosted the force block and knew he had less than three hours.

Strange and the rest tried and utterly failed. Thor was mopping the floor with them all. They teleported him to Thanos because they couldnt beat him. Thats the point. Thanos had a gadget on him that could temporarily stop Thor. You keep forgetting that Thor was still a very big problem to the entire universe.

Taping the Power gem didn't make him immune speed to gem removable

SS does have speed but like i said they did not use it during that arc to even attempt to take it.

You have to prove that speed can just snatch the power gem. Surfer has blazing speed and they didn't even try it.

Again nothing showing it can't be done 😉 and I can't be done

Originally posted by kgkg
Your failing to see the point Thor taped the power gem when the power were directed at him when Adam and strange attacked him directed. Also his power growing again nothing am denying there. What you have to show is Thor with the gem being immune to said tactics such as time stop , speed etc. and NO THOR was not immune

Taping the Power gem didn't make him immune speed to gem removable

SS does have speed but like i said they did not use it during that arc to even attempt to take it.

No it has been shown it can be done Power Gem does not make you immune to Speed my friend unless you can show that. all thor showed different from Drax that he was was tapping into the power and where did you get the idea that Speed would not work?

Again nothing showing it can't be done 😉 and I can't be done

Its not that easy,hence blood and thunder.

I get that idea from the fact that their combined efforts came up with nothing. The whole point of the story was that it couldnt just be easily removed that way. If you choose to ignore the whole premise of the story and the threat he was then sure. But saying speed easily gets the gem is ridiculous considering the fact that the Surfer took him on with a group. Prove speed can easily remove it or else concede.

Originally posted by quanchi112

If you choose to ignore the whole premise of the story and the threat he was then sure. But saying speed easily gets the gem is ridiculous considering the fact that the Surfer took him on with a group. Prove speed can easily remove it or else concede.

You keep referring to time stop. How many times and what were the circumstances of Strange stopping time. When has speed ever been shown to easily remove the power gem when being tapped into?

Its not that easy,hence blood and thunder. I get that idea from the fact that their combined efforts came up with nothing. The whole point of the story was that it couldnt just be easily removed that way.

has for thor beating the crap out of SS and others he was doing that without the GEm

Speaking of which, how is the gem even fixed to their forehead? Maybe it can't be removed.

Originally posted by kgkg
Few times actually and that was was one example Strange has also taken astral form etc

You have a point , but thanos did duke it out with him for a thor time. And what was the end result ? Thor was momentarily contained.

has for thor beating the crap out of SS and others he was doing that without the GEm

Thanos knew he couldnt physically beat him,so when he tired of the conflict,he got his gun to settle matters.

I couldnt understand the last sentence of your post.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You didnt answer my question or direct me to any comics.

Thanos knew he couldnt physically beat him,so when he tired of the conflict,he got his gun to settle matters.

I couldnt understand the last sentence of your post.

So bascially Thanos was fighting this guy who has a unlimited power soruce as a back up...then he got his gun to trap this supposed infinite power source Thor............was this gun powered by Toaa.

Originally posted by The Great Galen

So bascially Thanos was fighting this guy who has a unlimited power soruce as a back up...

But Thor was barely tapping into that potential,
and he was still wiping the floor with everyone's ass.

Btw. When SS, Strange, Warlock and the Infinity Watch collectively jumped Thor,
it was clearly stated, they were NOT holding back, yet, Thor still owned them easily.

Originally posted by The Great Galen

then he got his gun to trap this supposed infinite power source Thor............
was this gun powered by Toaa.

Had the gun been powered by TOAA, lol,
Thor wouldn't have been able to bust out in less than 3 hours,
which afterwards, he would've been harnessing the Gem at a greater level,
making him it seems unstoppable,
imperiling the 'heavens, the Universe,
even a good portion of the Multiverse itself according to Eternity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos was fighting this guy (Thor) who had a potential unlimited source of power.

But Thor was barely tapping into that potential,
and he was still wiping the floor with everyone's ass.

Btw. When SS, Strange, Warlock and the Infinity Watch collectively jumped Thor,
it was clearly stated, they were NOT holding back, yet, Thor still owned them easily.

Thanos got his gun to trap this minutely tapped infinite power source Thor...
(but Thor was gaining control by the second, it was only a matter of time)

Had the gun been powered by TOAA, lol,
Thor wouldn't have been able to bust out in less than 3 hours,
which afterwards, he would've been harnessing the Gem at a greater level,
making him it seems unstoppable,
imperiling the 'heavens, the Universe,
even a good portion of the Multiverse itself according to Eternity.

Still think its kind of fishy that a mere gun trapped him, on that note SS, Strange, Warlock and the Infinity Watch were certainly not in peak form so its a wash away kind of feat if you ask me. They didnt want to kill him, they were trying to save him not murder him otherwise the comic would have been over at that point. Anyhow Supes takes this, Thor's fight agaisnt Thanos didnt really impress me on any level and since a mere gun can take him out...well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm,Thor was a threat to Eternity and was getting stronger with each passing second. The forceblock was a temporary solution. When he broke out of it he was going to be too powerful for the combines might of Thanos,the Watch,and Strange to stop. Thats powerful, brah.

Supes was also easily contained in an energy field in dong.

Umm! I think someone already answered this. Eternity wasn't afraid of Thor so much as she was afraid of the gem. In that story arch Thor never got anywhere near powerful enough to be a threat to an abstract like Eternity.

And we're not talking about DONG Superman, this is OWAW Superman. OWAW Superman would have smashed Thanos, unlike Thor.

SD supes was practically pc level in power.