Should married people be allowed to sleep with other people?

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Personally I think there should be no government funded marriage whatsoever.

This is one thing I do completely agree with you on.

I think the main problem here is too many people think you can't separate love and commitment from monogamy.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Cause you want to marry someone that you can trust not to screw you over in the long run?

Let's be real: If you are marrying someone because of tax breaks, then how the hell can you trust them? That sounds paradoxical from the jump.

Originally posted by inimalist
the only difference between a person's mate and their friends is that they sleep together?

I would think, emotional commitment, loyalty, honesty, etc.

I see what you mean but sex and other emotions often go hand in hand. Most people do not distinguish between love and sex so THAT is the issue at hand.

So I guess if I grab another woman's ass while I'm out with my girlfriend then she should just grin and continue on. Just seems crazy illogical that it would never bother either person in the relationship.

What I had been trying to point out is simply that this is cute in theory but it doesn't necessarily go over well in application. I'm just waiting for someone to give me a stat that says "open marriage" couples are more successful than those that go the "traditional" route.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Look, regardless of what you personally believe, monogamy in a marriage is not necessary.

Personally I think there should be no government funded marriage whatsoever, but if it exists, it should at least not force people to be monogamous.

I would argue that monogamy is not necessarily a characteristic of a relationship, but that it is of a marriage.

Originally posted by chithappens
Let's be real: If you are marrying someone because of tax breaks, then how the hell can you trust them? That sounds paradoxical from the jump.

If you are marrying someone just because you want to have sex with them and them alone how can you trust them?

The point about trust is separate to either monogamy as well as tax breaks.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I would argue that monogamy is not necessarily a characteristic of a relationship, but that it is of a marriage.
I'd argue that it shouldn't be of either.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I would argue that monogamy is not necessarily a characteristic of a relationship, but that it is of a marriage.

No it isn't necessarily a part of marriage.

And chithappens, just because you personally don't get why people want to occasionally have sex with someone other then their spouse is not a good enough reason for them not to do it.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix

And chithappens, just because you personally don't get why people want to occasionally have sex with someone other then their spouse is not a good enough reason for them not to do it.

I dont give a **** of why someone wants to. I don't care. I'm saying that complications will inevitable occur, sex with only one partner or not.

Freaking prick. Stop telling me what I said without quoting me.

Well they don't give a **** why you disagree with what they are doing.

That's my point, you have one view of what a marriage is. And as much as it will pain you to learn, your view is not a universal definition for the word.

It is possible to disagree with someone and not care what they are doing.

Guess your ancestors were the noblemen of the Crusades.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Well they don't give a **** why you disagree with what they are doing.

That's my point, you have one view of what a marriage is. And as much as it will pain you to learn, your view is not a universal definition for the word.

I wish Excommunication meant Firing Squad...

In order to be excommunicated I would first have to belong to a cult, I mean religion.

And Chithappens, i The issue is that you made it sound as if your definition of marriage was the only one and it is not.

The issue is the topic of the discussion

Yes and you have taken it as far off that as I have. You have tried to make it sound as if a marriage where the spouses can sleep with other people is not a real marriage. And it is.

Originally posted by chithappens
I dont give a **** of why someone wants to. I don't care. I'm saying that complications will inevitable occur, sex with only one partner or not.

Freaking prick. Stop telling me what I said without quoting me.

I agree with you on many levels, I have seen two people that were individually in relationships become deceived by something as simple as one of them puting their arm around the other to show support.

These two people eventually slept together, and more than once, they also fell in love which in turn affected more lives than you can imagine.

My point is that not all people that sleep together fall in love, but many do. Sex can be as complicated and addicting as heroin. Sex isn't just physical it is equally spiritual. Like I said it doesn't take much to become deceived.

What a load of shit.

I think you're putting sex on a pedestal which is really not that deserved.

Sex isn't just physical it is equally spiritual. [/B]

In your opinion, Sex can just be a physical thing, it doesn't have to be all your building it up as.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
In your opinion, Sex can just be a physical thing, it doesn't have to be all your building it up as.

In my opinion sex is as great as the two people performing. If the two think of it as nothing more than a walk in the park, then so be it.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
What a load of shit.

I think you're putting sex on a pedestal which is really not that deserved.

Let's not make it seem as if what I said is completely far fetched, and something that could never happen Chillmeistergen.... ever hear of crimes of passion?

Like I said before, and will reiterate, if a couple has an open relationship this is just fine and good, but as complex as the brain is, there will be angles that will go unforeseen.

People fall in love.... if this is a load of shit Chill you may need some life experience.

People can fall in love with or without sex and they can have sex with or without love being involved. You can be passionate for sex without being in love with someone.

You may be the one in need of life experience.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
People can fall in love with or without sex and they can have sex with or without love being involved. You can be passionate for sex without being in love with someone.

You may be the one in need of life experience.

Aster I can see why Chithappens lost patience with you. Perhaps you misread what I wrote because you said pretty much what I did... or was it an attempt to get under my skin and blow things out of proportion?

The fact is, people have been hurt that have had illicit affairs, and people have been hurt when those affairs were known by their partners, and accepted by all involved... sometimes things just get out of hand.

Aster if you and yours have an open relationship, then that is great for you, just understand one thing, emotions are as hard to control as a tidal wave when things go outside of our control.

Hope you perfectly understood what I said this time, and won't use what you think I said as a way to twist it. 🙂

No I understood you just fine and use what you said in the right context.

The affair isn't illicit if both spouses are okay with it. As I said I have seen many marriages work just fine this way.