Originally posted by basilisk It's an interesting interpretation of what was said, but I've seen people debating this before and I'll admit my interpretation was different.
It seemed to me that the power behind the scenes
always intended Thanos to get the HOTI, to carry out His work,
and so manipulated him into getting it.
Of course the power had to trick Thanos into believing it was all his own plan and just another one of his pointless quests for ultimate power - otherwise why would he have continued?
Thanos prepped to find THOTI since the Infinity Abyss arc.
Here's Warlock remembering during "The End: Marvel" ...
"Thanos ... during the Abyss Affair,
I gleaned that he was once again seeking a New and awesome power source."
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Here's the on panel evidence from the Infinity Abyss arc to support that statement:
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No one manipulated Thanos into getting THOTI.
Thanos was allowed by TOAA to take it though, but Thanos had to acquire it on his own.
Originally posted by basilisk In issue #5 Eternity says "I come to demand you relinquish the supreme power you have stolen!"
Thanos answers him "More like it was given to me."
When Eternity strongly objects to the truth of that answer ("Liar!"😉, Thanos replies "You actually have no clue as to what truly transpires, do you?" (the emphasis in all these lines is from the comic).
This comment is after Thanos realizes his purpose with the Supreme power:
Again, TOAA allowed Thanos to take it ("given to me"😉
once he found it on his own of course.
What Thanos is commenting about, concerning Eternity is the "Flaw"
... which evidently can only be sensed by the Supreme power.
Originally posted by basilisk Looking at The End again (I only have the last two issues handy, not the ones above)
just raises more questions for me.
How then is the HOTI wielded by different people in these alternate timelines -
is it like the IG where What Ifs established there actually are multiple IGs in different universes,
not a single one that controls all reality?
There's only one HOTI, and there's only one real IG.
THOTI was tapped by others from alternate Timelines
because the Celestial Order travelled across Time and Space to find their representatives,
representatives like Akhenaten who they found in the year 1331, Reality-4321:
"Through Time and Space they searched for their chosen few"
Originally posted by basilisk What does that make the HOTI given that Thanos said the difference between the IG and the HOTI was not one the of scope of the control, but that the IG was external control while HOTI made him part of it?
IG makes the wielder God but beneath the LT,
IG makes the wielder Supreme over all Universes, still LT > IG.
THOTI makes the wielder God, even above the LT.
THOTI makes the wielder the Supreme being/embodiment of all Universes.
This is why THOTI > LT > IG.
As for "What If ... IGs?" = 👇
Originally posted by basilisk If Thanos had the supreme power and was a part of all the omniverse at once, why did he keep saying during that he was "unaware" of this event
and that event afterwards?
I'll gladly answer.
Originally posted by basilisk How did he not know that Warlock survived,
or who was coming through the portal?
Because Warlock is a Marvel anomaly, that exists outside the influence of time/space,
he literally "part of the Universe" and yet, "inexplicably apart from it" as well,
so when Thanos absorbed all of time/space in Marvel, Warlock was left out:
It's "inexplicable" ... is just an excuse to make him anomaly, therefore sepcial,
therefore allowing Warlock to survive, so we, the readers, can enjoy an interesting ending,
where of course,
Jim Starlin is going to have Warlock convincing Thanos of what he already knows.
Originally posted by basilisk How did he overlook Death - just because she was on "a plane of actuality outside of this poor reality"? A truly omniscient & omnipotent God wouldn't have such limitations (either in terms of lack of information or the inability to process it all at once) so why did Thanos?
First, so long as there is life, there is Death.
Warlock was still alive, this is reason enough for Concept of Death to linger.
It could also be that Thanos sub-conciously allowed Death to survive, due to love.
Or, it's simply that Thanos absorbed All of Time/Space,
and didn't absorb anything outside of Time/Space.
* As for "overlooking" *
Remember, when Thanos absorbed everything,
he was, at that point, out of control:
And again, Thanos specifically pointed out TIme and Space as the object of his absorption:
Originally posted by basilisk Why did he not have the power to directly fix the problem without having to destroy the universe?
That's the story, now you're nitpicking.
If the Flaw could've been fixed without re-creation,
then the arc would have ended prematurely.
It's a comic book story, it needs substance that can last,
especially dealing with uber power like this,
which can become very boring, very fast, without some plot twists.
Btw. For the record, Thanos did fix the flaw, the only way possible.
