Gaara vs. Sandman

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Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Irrelevant because A) Sandman's attacks are nowhere near on the level of a city destroying bomb. And B) The sand was also spread thin across the entire blast radius,and still did not break. Logic dictates that anything spread over a long distance will have a weaker integrity then something that is not spread thin but is concentrated. Gaara will not have to spread his sand defense nearly that far apart to defend himself against Sandman's punches. That being the case, if his shield was concentrated it should be able to easily absorb the force of his punches.

Which doesn't really matter because he can enact the shield incredibly fast, and he won't need a shield that strong to protect himself from his blows since Sandman's blows aren't as strong as a bomb that size. He wouldn'tneed to use nearly a much chakra.

You're right. All I had remembered was that there was a big ass explosion.

Sandman controls his sand in the same manner, does he not? 😬 I've never seen Sandman's sand act on it's own will. He takes inanimate sand and manipulates it around him to do various things. Not sure about that exactly though. Irregardless, can you prove that Sandman can resist a chakra fueled attack on his control of the sand? It is essentially his supernatural control versus Gaara's.

This is assuming that A) Sandman gets to all of that sand before Gaara takes control of his share. B) Sandman can build himself up that high and still function normally. You'd have to provide proof for that, as he's fought on a beach before and never done that. C) Gaara doesn't just float higher up or (For the lulz) He decides to just float over the water. lolZ.

You and I have been over this before, man.

Live. 😐

And another possibility: Is there any reason to think that Gaara can not control sand that is wet? If there isn't I don't see why he can't just use the equivelent of a sand avalanche that's made entire out of sand from the water. It'd essentially be a tsunami of wet sand which would in turn weaken Sandman's sand composition and he'd turn into mud... and we've all seen what happens when he turns into mud.

1. A. too bad the explosion was nowhere near "city destroying." Hell, the Sand Village isn't even a "city", it's a village, and from what we saw, the bomb would not have even destroyed that. B. Thin? MY. ASS. It was AT LEAST 10 feet thick, probably more, and like I said, the explosion was not that big. If his shield was concentrated? Sandman's fists can easily shred through reinforced steel and more, he can condense his fists to make class 100 blows, that is at least twice as strong as Tsunade. If his shield is concentrated, he will just be expending more chakra, whereas Sandman will never get tired.

2. He enacted the shield by shooting sand in the direction of the bomb, he has never enacted a shield that large or strong very quickly for his own personal protectiong, and like I said, he will be expending WAY too much chakra for practical use. And like I said...The bomb blast was like...100 feet in diameter at best, it is not as strong as you like to pretend it is, Sandman can make his own body bigger than that. And if he makes himself say...100 feet tall, Sandman would be physically strong enough to CRUSH Gaara and any shield.

3. YAY! I won something! What do I get? 🙂

But I know why you though that, Deidara's suicide explosion against Sasuke did in fact have a Mushroom Cloud.

4. Not really, it is literally part of his own body. He controls it as we would our arms and legs, actually, he has greater control than that. Sandman's sand is under his full control. No, like how you can't prove that Gaara's sand is immune to Gaara. Which is why I say neither of them can control eachother's sand.

5. A. Well IMO both just collect all the sand they can, Sandman by absorbing it. B. Why could he not? He absorbs sand to add to his mass...That's one of his most basic powers. He would just need to stay out of the water, and given the sheer size of most beaches, that should not be a problem. C. Which would do what? It will separate him from the sand he needs to control. Which would screw him.

6. Gaara has to stand on solid sand. Solid sand that Sandman can stand on. And that will COMPLETELY fvck Gaara up because he will be separated from the sand on the beach, and will be defenseless to the powerhouse that is Sandman.

7. Any proof he can? Wet sand does not hold together well and is not easiloy controlled, even by a living elemental like Sandman. The sand once out of the water won't be sand...It would be mud just as you said. 😐

well the village is observably as big as a small city, and the explosion WOULD have destroyed it, thats why the shield was as large as the village, or nearly.

gaara wins. i havent seen sandman do enough to think that he has either the speed or the strength to harm gaara. and gaara has chakra and the bijuu. there is nuthing to say that sandman's control over sand is greater than gaara. against kimimaru, gaara was changing the entire landscape and forest.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i havent seen

And the rest of the post just crumbles into worthlessness.

Unless....

I assume you have every issue involving Sandman, right? Since you consider yourself positioned with enough ground to make the conclusion that Gaara wins.

This is what happens when comic book fans come to the manga board. I'm a comic book fan myself but unlike some of the others I don't have this blind bias towards comics over mangas. Also to those thinking sandman would have more control over sand than gaara imo your wrong. For all intents gaaras abilities are magical. He has the Shukaku(not looking it up, I'm pretty sure I'm right) what I would equivilate to a sand god in naruto.

Also to the people who belittle Rock Lee's strength. Are you mad? do you know how much weigth that little guy walks around with, without even limping? Do you know how insanely fast he moves? If you even think for a second that spiderman can beat Rock Lee alone I'm ignoring you. Spiderman wouldn't even be able to see Rock Lee coming and Lee's punches pack a mean punch.

If you don't like mangas move along please because I hate seeing hate seeing biased remarks. This is where I expect someone from the comic board to say some stupid feat about spiderman doing something that by all intents he shouldn't(and they know it) be able to do. Like "well spiderman beat firelord so bleh" or Hulk for that matter.

how cud gaara lose to sum1 who got his but kicked by spidey over and over again? and becci, im a bigger marvel/western comics fan than manga fan and i have seen enough of sandman to know that he doesnt have a shot. wud u mind putting up non PIS feats of sandman which makes u think he cud?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
how cud gaara lose to sum1 who got his but kicked by spidey over and over again? and becci, im a bigger marvel/western comics fan than manga fan and i have seen enough of sandman to know that he doesnt have a shot. wud u mind putting up non PIS feats of sandman which makes u think he cud?
And how does Spidey usually beat Sandman? If it's anything like the cartoons it's because of his huge weakness to water. And the fact Spider-Man is one of the smartest people around which Gaara isn't. Nor does Gaara do anything but control sand. He doesn't control water or anything else that would work against Sandman.
Originally posted by razor4life
Also to the people who belittle Rock Lee's strength. Are you mad? do you know how much weigth that little guy walks around with, without even limping? Do you know how insanely fast he moves? If you even think for a second that spiderman can beat Rock Lee alone I'm ignoring you. Spiderman wouldn't even be able to see Rock Lee coming and Lee's punches pack a mean punch.

If you don't like mangas move along please because I hate seeing hate seeing biased remarks. This is where I expect someone from the comic board to say some stupid feat about spiderman doing something that by all intents he shouldn't(and they know it) be able to do. Like "well spiderman beat firelord so bleh" or Hulk for that matter.

What does Lee have to do with Gaara being slower than Spidey? The only thing to do with Lee is that Sandman is stronger.

And what does Hulk doing stuff have to do with anything? And Spider-man usually doesn't do stuff he shouldn't that I've ever seen.

yes, gaara became kazekage because of his dimwittedness right?

Just because Gaara isn't some idiot like Naruto doesn't mean he's a genius. And he became Kazekage because he was the most powerful and because the elders were all scared of him not because he was smart. He's far below Parker when it comes to being a genius. Heck he's far below Temari when it comes to being a genius.

his father was scared of him. uro killed him. so thats not the reason he became kazekage. he IS smart.

Except for..brains had nothing to do with it. And ALL the elders were scared of him. You know the ones who chose him. His father didn't choose him to be Kazekage. Heck everybody except Temari, Kankuro, and their teacher were scared of him up until his death. He was also the most powerful in the village which helped.

Originally posted by razor4life
Also to the people who belittle Rock Lee's strength. Are you mad? do you know how much weigth that little guy walks around with, without even limping? Do you know how insanely fast he moves? If you even think for a second that spiderman can beat Rock Lee alone I'm ignoring you. Spiderman wouldn't even be able to see Rock Lee coming and Lee's punches pack a mean punch.

I want to slap you. May I slap you? I feel the urge and it would ease my heart 🪩

Now on a more serious note. Sandman can press 170.000 pounds. No one in this thread has said that Spider-Man can beat Rock Lee. What you are trying to preform is A>B>C logic, which is the absolutely worst way to base your opinions at.

Originally posted by razor4life
Also to the people who belittle Rock Lee's strength. Are you mad? do you know how much weigth that little guy walks around with, without even limping? Do you know how insanely fast he moves? If you even think for a second that spiderman can beat Rock Lee alone I'm ignoring you. Spiderman wouldn't even be able to see Rock Lee coming and Lee's punches pack a mean punch.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

I don't have this blind bias towards comics over mangas

This made me LOL more.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
well the village is observably as big as a small city, and the explosion WOULD have destroyed it, thats why the shield was as large as the village, or nearly.

gaara wins. i havent seen sandman do enough to think that he has either the speed or the strength to harm gaara. and gaara has chakra and the bijuu. there is nuthing to say that sandman's control over sand is greater than gaara. against kimimaru, gaara was changing the entire landscape and forest.

The village is as big as a large town at best from what I have seen. The shield was NOWHERE NEAR as large as the village, if it was...Lol that is a small ass village.

Other than the fact that Gaara cannot hurt him and Sandman can one hit kill Gaara?

Originally posted by razor4life
Also to the people who belittle Rock Lee's strength. Are you mad? do you know how much weigth that little guy walks around with, without even limping? Do you know how insanely fast he moves? If you even think for a second that spiderman can beat Rock Lee alone I'm ignoring you. Spiderman wouldn't even be able to see Rock Lee coming and Lee's punches pack a mean punch.

If you don't like mangas move along please because I hate seeing hate seeing biased remarks. This is where I expect someone from the comic board to say some stupid feat about spiderman doing something that by all intents he shouldn't(and they know it) be able to do. Like "well spiderman beat firelord so bleh" or Hulk for that matter.

Which does not come close to proving he is anywhere near as strong as Spiderman, let alone Sandman. Spiderman in H2H would crush Rock Lee. He is fast enough, is stronger, and has precog.

Stfu.

So your reply is an emoticon and a lol, nice contribution, moving on. Btw Jugglenaut the majority of my post are on the comic book board and my knowledge of comics is better than my knowledge of mangas. Why am i even responding to your lame reply.

Also diamond I see what your saying, ignoring the stupid slap remark. Yet i'm not the first to use said logic in this thread. If you feel like policing the thread then atleast go after all the perps.

Jaxx did you seriously just say spiderman owns rock lee in h2h. What have you been smoking? Do you even read or watch naruto? Or do you just wiki up some information? Spiderman on average and most showings is not as fast, or as strong as rock lee in combat(key term here). Knowing you though you'll pick some high showing that makes no sense to be your backing. He also gets tagged by things moving at a regular speed frequently enough. He may dodge a few but then one lands.

I'll give spidey the durability and the fact that he's an incredible deal smarter than Rock Lee. Anyways you can have the last word I don't care lets get back on topic. Sorry for the minor derailment didn't think it would drag out this far or did I? Gaara has the shukaku if he's allowed to use that in this fight he wins. Unless you think Sandman beats the Shukaku also.

Originally posted by razor4life
So your reply is an emoticon and a lol, nice contribution, moving on. Btw Jugglenaut the majority of my post are on the comic book board and my knowledge of comics is better than my knowledge of mangas. Why am i even responding to your lame reply.

Also diamond I see what your saying, ignoring the stupid slap remark. Yet i'm not the first to use said logic in this thread. If you feel like policing the thread then atleast go after all the perps.

Remark? Stupid? It was a question ermm My father always told me there is no such thing as stupid questions. Only stupid answers.

Now: Why should I go after others, when I found your post propriate enough. Besides, would you jump of a bridge just because others in this thread did so? Others using A>B>C does not make your usage of it any less garbage. I replied to your post specificly because I reacted to your post, and not any of the others.

Spiderman is nearly as fast, he has precog to sense what he is gonna do, is more durable and smarter, and is stronger. Spiderman would crush Rock Lee unless he opened the gates.

But fact is Sandman hits MUCH harder than Lee, who broke the Sand Shield.

and yes, I do read Naruto, in fact my knowledge of it likely crushes yours.

If Gaara goes Shukaku, Gaara's body will be hanging lifelessly on Shukaku's forehead, which is far too easy a target.

Sandman is by no means as powerful as Shukaku, but Shukaku could not down him, and Sandman will kill the defenseless Gaara.

And on a side note DK's sig=T3h sexiest sig on KMC.