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Let me start off by saying that the level of ignorance to comics is astounding. Any Spidey wins over Sandman is PIS or a result of exploiting the surrounding area, similar to how I think gaara would this fight. Spiderman would never have a chance against Sandman in a straight up fight and so using his fights as a basis for Sandman's defeat is just ridiculous.
Second, Spiderman has been proven to have reactive speed far superior to bullets. He does not rely on just his spidey sense. I have the scans coming out of my ass to prove it. Spiderman would wreck Rock Lee even if he used the gates and that's all there is to it.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
[B]1. A. too bad the explosion was nowhere near "city destroying." Hell, the Sand Village isn't even a "city", it's a village,
You said yourself that it was more of a large town. A large town and a city are essentially the same thing. This is semantics...
and from what we saw, the bomb would not have even destroyed that.
Agreed. That explosion looks large enough to encompass at least multiple blocks though.
B. Thin? MY. ASS. It was AT LEAST 10 feet thick, probably more,
Thin is a relative term. 😐
If his shield was concentrated? Sandman's fists can easily shred through reinforced steel and more,he can condense his fists to make class 100 blows, that is at least twice as strong as Tsunade.
And that puts it above a bomb that could potentially vaporize multiple city blocks, how?
If his shield is concentrated, he will just be expending more chakra,
My point was that all of that sand that Gaara used to stop the bomb was spread over a large surface area. The larger the surface area of an object is, the more strain will be put upon it in certain spots, mostly the middle (Think of a wooden board bending in the middle under weight or standing in the middle of a trampoline .). So if instead of spreading the sand outwards Gaara could actually use less sand and create a smaller surface area, instead just layering it in front of him, and that would actually increase the strength of the sand shield. Less sand being used equals less chakra utilized. Do you get what I'm saying?
whereas Sandman will never get tired.
This would be the winning factor in Sandman's favor above everything else.
2. He enacted the shield by shooting sand in the direction of the bomb, he has never enacted a shield that large or strong very quickly for his own personal protectiong,
Doesn't mean he can't. He's never fought someone with such strength before though. You've already said that in vs. fights it's standard that both fighters know of the others potential. So I don't see why he couldn't erect (hee-hee) a shield like that. And I'm still not entirely convinced that Sandman could go right through his regular sand also. It'd be nice if someone could post some Sandman scans. It's blasphemy and all around gay that he doesn't have a respect thread since he's one of Spidey's better villains.
and like I said, he will be expending WAY too much chakra for practical use.
Meh. Agreed. It would be impracticable. Thus, the last few paragraphs of my argument have been rendered irrelevant. Damn it.
And like I said...The bomb blast was like...100 feet in diameter at best,
I disagree. I see the scan and it looks larger. More like the size of a large football stadium imo.
3. YAY! I won something! What do I get? 🙂
A night with Furion's mom.
4. Not really, it is literally part of his own body. He controls it as we would our arms and legs, actually, he has greater control than that.
So if he is literally made of nothing but sand then why can't Gaara control him with his chakra? At that point it's not just a fight for control of his sand but for his own sand being.
No, like how you can't prove that Gaara's sand is immune to Gaara.
If I was asked the question, I would say that it is because Gaara's sand is not ordinary sand, but sand that is enhanced with his chakra and Shukaku's special chakra.
B. Why could he not? He absorbs sand to add to his mass...That's one of his most basic powers.
Because a large enough object made of sand would collapse upon itself...
C. Which would do what? It will separate him from the sand he needs to control. Which would screw him.
Gaara, unlike Sandman, does not have to be "in contact" with sand at all to control it, because he is not controlling ti with himself but with chakra. It's like how a ninja can use a water jutsu like a water dragon, even if they're not touching the water. If Gaara can use the surrounding deserts sand while floating hundreds of feet above it, he can probably do it while hovering above water as well.
6. Gaara has to stand on solid sand.
Proof?
Solid sand that Sandman can stand on.
Really? Last I checked Gaara made a cloud to float on that was just barely large enough to hold him and Lee. That being said, he could probably make one just large enough for himself as well. But just for more laughs. Instead of making a floating pedestal, how about Gaara just uses the universal shinobi ability to walk on water and stands out in the water? Another option. The whole "beach" thing makes this whole scenario kind of gay. It's like having Charmander fight in the middle of the pacific.
Any proof he can?
Well (Blaxican going out on a limb), the human body itself holds literally gallons of water between he blood and other parts of your body. Gaara crushes people until they are, literally dust, which would mean that all of the fluids and bloods (His sand is stated to be soaked with blood) would be mixed in with his sand... which would mean until the liquids dry his sand is quite wet. There is no slow down or extra effort needed to use the sand. Gaara uses his chakra to summon minerals from deep within the earth and crushes rocks into sand for his own use. I don't see why using sand that is wet would be a problem.
Wet sand does not hold together well
This would only be important if Gaara was trying to create something or make a solid object, which is why Sandman get's ****ed up by it so much. If all you're doing is picking it up and hurling it the compoisiton of the sand is irrelevant. You can pick up a glop of mud ad throw it. Good luck trying to make a sand castle out of it though.
and is not easiloy controlled,
Proof?
even by a living elemental like Sandman.
Sandman can't use mud because he uses sand by turning it into solid objects. Gaara is not confined to that, though.
The sand once out of the water won't be sand...
Mud is sand that is wet. 😐