What Drugs have you done?

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, my contribution to this "intellectual conversation" is to say there is nothing interesting or conversation worthy about doing drugs. Congrads, you like to make a personal choice.

You could talk about how and why they effect the brain/mind, their long standing association with transcendent experience or why people who want societies where everyone is "free" and "works for the common good of humanity" also want the choice to take drugs that slowly damage the ability to think.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You could talk about how and why they effect the brain/mind, their long standing association with transcendent experience or why people who want societies where everyone is "free" and "works for the common good of humanity" also want the choice to take drugs that slowly damage the ability to think.

don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of drugs and of legalization of them all

and ya, there is lots that could be talked about on the issue, I think the social part of drugs are very interesting. Hell, I even brought up the fact that both of the "long" lists so far have been dominated by pharmaceuticals, which surprises me.

But like, and its probably only me, this just reminds me of high school, where you buy a dime bag and feel so bad ass. I remember thinking it was cool to have done lots of drugs and to have people think I'm a druggie. Its such an immature opinion to have about them. Its like the "fight the power" comment you made earlier.

EDIT: so, this one time, I'm at a rave, smoking a J. Moments later, this guy runs up to me and is like "Man, you are so cool man, smoking weed man" (actually, not sarcastic, just a little ummm, energetic 😉). I offered him some, and he declined, going on about how cool it was I was breaking the law and sticking it to the man. Forgive me if I feel this mentality is echoed in this thread.

Originally posted by inimalist
by listing the drugs you have done? Like, at least propose something to converse about.

"Ive smoked pot"
"so have I"
"duuuuuude"

Do you have any good stories you want to tell? Advice for new users? stuff you would stay away from? lol, as far as I can tell, you just want people to know you are bad ass.

lol, my contribution to this "intellectual conversation" is to say there is nothing interesting or conversation worthy about doing drugs. Congrads, you like to make a personal choice.

So, the food I like to eat is...

right, not showing off

I'll be quiet now, because I'm intimidated by the fact your friends have done lots of drugs...

Dude for one your just dumb so yeah be quiet.
Honestly my intention was to converse and compare, i didn't realize how stiff some of you are. i listed what i had done as a conversation starter, unaware that it would be basically just me.

What i was attempting to point out earlier, is you guys are like <sarcasm> oh my god your such a badass</sarcasm>but if you know anything about anything thats not shit in-fact its mild at best.

Your a moron if you think there is nothing conversation worthy about drugs. Obviously you've only seen things from one side of the track, your whole life. Where as i have lived on all three sides of the tracks. And the worst part is(you don't realize it) but your completely narrow minded.

For instance which do you think inspires the most creativity?I think coke b/c when im on coke dude i swear to god i could write a ****ing novel.

Originally posted by inimalist
don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of drugs and of legalization of them all

Yeah I can see the up sides. It just doesn't strike me as a great idea.

Originally posted by inimalist
and ya, there is lots that could be talked about on the issue, I think the social part of drugs are very interesting. Hell, I even brought up the fact that both of the "long" lists so far have been dominated by pharmaceuticals, which surprises me.

If I had to guess, it's because they're convenient, quality controled and the FDA doesn't ramp up prices once you're hooked.

Originally posted by inimalist
But like, and its probably only me, this just reminds me of high school, where you buy a dime bag and feel so bad ass. I remember thinking it was cool to have done lots of drugs and to have people think I'm a druggie. Its such an immature opinion to have about them. Its like the "fight the power" comment you made earlier.

Yeah . . . I feel so white bred right now.

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
Dude for one your just dumb so yeah be quiet.
Honestly my intention was to converse and compare, i didn't realize how stiff some of you are. i listed what i had done as a conversation starter, unaware that it would be basically just me.

What i was attempting to point out earlier, is you guys are like <sarcasm> oh my god your such a badass</sarcasm>but if you know anything about anything thats not shit in-fact its mild at best.

Your a moron if you think there is nothing conversation worthy about drugs. Obviously you've only seen things from one side of the track, your whole life. Where as i have lived on all three sides of the tracks. And the worst part is(you don't realize it) but your completely narrow minded.

For instance which do you think inspires the most creativity?I think coke b/c when im on coke dude i swear to god i could write a ****ing novel.

I don't want to get into a pissing match with you, but when you've done drugs you will know what I'm talking about

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
What i was attempting to point out earlier, is you guys are like <sarcasm> oh my god your such a badass</sarcasm>but if you know anything about anything thats not shit in-fact its mild at best.

Sweet ****ing baby raptor Jesus . . .

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
For instance which do you think inspires the most creativity?I think coke b/c when im on coke dude i swear to god i could write a ****ing novel.

But you never actually will. It simply makes you feel that way. On a side note PCP really does make you invulnerable.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah I can see the up sides. It just doesn't strike me as a great idea.

by no means do I think drugs are good, and my argument for legalization is a pragmatic/economic one. Drugs are a personal choice, they are for some people and not for others. That one, embarrassingly, took me a long time to figure out, and unfortunately, many drug users still think the world would be a better place if everyone tried them.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If I had to guess, it's because they're convenient, quality controled and the FDA doesn't ramp up prices once you're hooked.

its weird, in the groups I run with, people who use pharmaceuticals are almost looked down upon, almost a "thats not what they are meant for" idea.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah . . . I feel so white bred right now.

lol, ya, loser 🙂

Originally posted by inimalist
and unfortunately, many drug users still think the world would be a better place if everyone tried them.

i don't neccesarily think that, but i do think that said person would have a larger understanding on the world. Not because drugs make you smarter or anything, but because they are experiencing life through a different perspective.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

But you never actually will. It simply makes you feel that way.

that's your come back seriously? Wow thats weak.
Because in reality i pride my self in the ability to interpret and create literature. I've written a screenplay that's immaculate by the way & indulge in poetry & short stories & right now i'm working on a novel.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

On a side note PCP really does make you invulnerable.

they really don't make you feel like that

Alcohol, weed, cocaine, shrooms, speed and pills.
I smoke as well...so nicotine.

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
i don't neccesarily think that, but i do think that said person would have a larger understanding on the world. Not because drugs make you smarter or anything, but because they are experiencing life through a different perspective.

well, i've been in numerous situations where people who were not personally ready for their mind to be twisted a bit (even from something as benign as pot) had major bouts of anxiety and panic simply because a reality shift of that nature is not something they want. Drugs have to be about choice. Would more people benefit from that choice if it were legal and no stigma attached, sure, but there are just some people who they are not for.

also, don't give yourself such little credit. Drugs didn't give you an expansive worldview, you did.

EDIT: I agree with Sym about the creativity thing too. Drugs may help it manifest, but the creativity, the artistic drive behind creation, is not helped by drugs. Personally, the stuff I come up with while on psychadellics, supposedly the godhead of artistic inspiration, are not nearly as nuanced or as interesting as the things I can come up with sober. Maybe some acid would help me with colour selection in abstract art, but it wont help me with the abstracting.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Cake.

Why thank-you

But Don't get me wrong anything you do on drugs you can do better sober(99% of the time). But from experienced what i've gathered is they will give you a boost in the right direction.

Where as in most the time it'll take me longer to work unless i'm in a creative mood. BUT coke would give me a creative burst. And i don't know man i come up with some crazy ass ideas on drugs. They allow you to peer into aspects of your mind that you usually leave idle.

the more you get into the "it opens your mind" stuff, the more I am going to disagree with you.

For instance, to me it makes more sense that you really like the stuff you come up with when you are on coke because it has already activated your dopamine and limbic systems, making you excited and happy about things in general.

lol, its silly for me to argue about your own personal experiences, so ya, maybe coke is the great inspiration for you.

Pot
Lsd
Shrooms
Peyote
Coke

all kinds of prescription drugs

The only drug i would recommend to anyone would be Shrooms

Close to all rock stars took drugs and some even wrote songs about their trips.

regardless of my user name ...mj is safest by most research...I believe it..just cant be part of it due to society wanting to create jobs not understand or not research and take my kid away if I was too...believe me folks they try to use it against u even if they do it themselves. If I'm right it took the U.S. gov about 30 secs to make it illegal blaming on without knowledge it would become like opium drugs....please feel free to respond..lol

in the words of the late rick james 'cocaine is a hell of a drug'. Yes it is james, yes it is.

Edit: first time i did it i felt like superman

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
regardless of my user name ...mj is safest by most research...I believe it..just cant be part of it due to society wanting to create jobs not understand or not research and take my kid away if I was too...believe me folks they try to use it against u even if they do it themselves. If I'm right it took the U.S. gov about 30 secs to make it illegal blaming on without knowledge it would become like opium drugs....please feel free to respond..lol

I would, but I think need a translator. Are you saying the US government would rather steal children than research the useful properties of marijuana (which are already well known, I believe)?

Alcohol
Nicotine
Marijuana
Cocaine
LSD
Shrooms
PCP
Meth/Ice
Vicodin/Codeine

I was kind've experimentive in my youth. Now all I do is have the occasional drink.

I'm yet to try LSD, I've never really met a dealer that sells it.