Nicotene
Alcohol
Marijuana
Hash
Keef (how many know what that is?)
Crystal Meth
Cocaine
Crack Cocaine
Mushrooms
Extasy
Not things that I would recommend to anybody. In the end, life is too short to spend jacked up on some substance.
Have real experiences with friends and family. (though I had quite a few "experiences" from doing drugs with others. LOL)
I wouldn't go as far to say that Cocaine and Crack are the same drug. Crack's made from cocaine, yes, but the crack's far more addictive, has a shorter lived effect and is also considered very differently in the eyes of the law. By your rationale you could say that morphine and heroin are exactly the same.
I smoke a fair amount of weed. Did shrooms once, it was an incredible experience and something I would do again, but I'm in no hurry to do so. I've all but stopped drinking caffeine, as I slowly realized how negative its impact on me was. Not a fan of cigarettes but I like cigars and I plan on buying a hookah in the near future. And I drink alcohol occasionally but never excessively
The drugs I want to try are LSD for sure, and possibly extacy if I knew I was getting a reasonably clean roll. Anyone here tried kava? Its legal and I'm wondering if its worth buying some, I hear it mixes well with a weed high. I'd probably give salvia a shot even though there are far better psychedelics at far cheaper prices
And to actually contribute to the thread, I believe that all drugs should be legal on the basis of personal freedom. Not that I would recommend heroin to anyone, but I still think it should be legal, as the law shouldn't apply to what people want to do to their own bodies, nor does the law really stop anyone who is interested in using such a drug.
edit - and isnt Keef also weed, just the crystally residue sometimes left over? That's how Ive seen the word used around here
Originally posted by chillmeistergenNot exactly the same. It's like saying green apples and red apples are different types of fruit.
I wouldn't go as far to say that Cocaine and Crack are the same drug. Crack's made from cocaine, yes, but the crack's far more addictive, has a shorter lived effect and is also considered very differently in the eyes of the law. By your rationale you could say that morphine and heroin are exactly the same.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Marijuana
Hash
Keef (how many know what that is?)
keef is just concetrated pot.
However hash and pot are different because they have different affects on you.
This one time i smoked ONE bowl of hash mixed with bud. To this day i had never been so stoned.
Originally posted by inimalist
at the same time, weed should be illegal. Because it is harmful. It creates unmotivated, lazy people who don't contribute to their family and end up doing other drugs and living in poverty.It turns you into a pothead, and i ****ing hate potheads?
Pot should be legal.
You are right weed CAN turn you into an unmotivated pothead.
But it can be controlled, and it can be balanced, usually it's the morons who become waistoid couch potatos. And there are PROS to the herb i call ganja, not only CONS.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
Pot should be legal.You are right weed CAN turn you into an unmotivated pothead.
But it can be controlled, and it can be balanced, usually it's the morons who become waistoid couch potatos. And there are PROS to the herb i call ganja, not only CONS.
you missed my point
you are using arbitrary and subjective criteria to claim that crack should not be legal.
If subjective lines are allowed to be drawn, there is no real argument for pot legalization, as it is simply a subjective matter.
Originally posted by inimalist
you missed my pointyou are using arbitrary and subjective criteria to claim that crack should not be legal.
If subjective lines are allowed to be drawn, there is no real argument for pot legalization, as it is simply a subjective matter.
pot is not nearly as detrimental as crack. You questioning the form in which i'm debating. Where i'm focusing on legitimate reasoning. Because lol i beleive i'm right, and your stubborn to reasoning.
Let me ask you a question have you ever smoked pot? Let me ask you a better question have you ever embraced it as a lifestyle.
From Hippies to G's they both light up L's all day, and thats the way it should be. Either before they go out to make a sale, or when they go out on lunch break.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Close.Keef is actually a bag full of the crystals off of really good pot. You can sprinkle it on pot, or pack a tight bowl full of it. However, you need alot, because you'll burn it all in one hit.
lol you dont have to tell me how to smoke keef.
But thats what it is. I've never straight baught keef. Never even heard of anyone selling it.
Keef is what fills up in the very bottom of the grinder, all the crystals from the pot, essentially concentrated pot.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
pot is not nearly as detrimental as crack. You questioning the form in which i'm debating. Where i'm focusing on legitimate reasoning. Because lol i beleive i'm right, and your stubborn to reasoning.Let me ask you a question have you ever smoked pot? Let me ask you a better question have you ever embraced it as a lifestyle.
From Hippies to G's they both light up L's all day, and thats the way it should be. Either before they go out to make a sale, or when they go out on lunch break.
Your argument is ludicrous. Which one is more detrimental neither matters or can actually be properly proven.
Originally posted by inimalistAt the same time though, different methods of preparation do make the experience different, even if the chemical stays the same. Eating cannabis will give a way different effect than smoking it, as an obvious example. Although in the handful of times I've smoked hash, the effect was pretty much the same, the only real difference was the concentration of THC.
lolhash and pot? same drug
crack and coke, not the same
hash really doesn't have much more preparation than extracting resin from the plant, in a variety of ways. Like, a THC pill is the same drug as marijuana.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
pot is not nearly as detrimental as crack.
this is a statement of subjective evaluation
any other person can do a risk/benefit evaluation of pot and come to radically different conclusions than you.
it is about what issues are the most salient. That pot is used more widely, to someone, may make it more detrimental than crack.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
You questioning the form in which i'm debating. Where i'm focusing on legitimate reasoning. Because lol i beleive i'm right, and your stubborn to reasoning.
what I'm focusing on is the weakness of your argument.
you don't have to believe me, but focusing on ranking different drugs by risks is not going to win you an argument. If anything, it solidifies the stance of people who think drugs should be illegal because they are harmful. You are giving them the ammunition they need to break your logic.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
Let me ask you a question have you ever smoked pot?
yes
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
Let me ask you a better question have you ever embraced it as a lifestyle.
how aren't you bragging right now? How are you not saying "yo, I smoke mad bluntz, respect my authority"?
I see no reason to describe the frequency of my drug use to you. Nor do I see how it is relevant.
Originally posted by Stealth Agent
From Hippies to G's they both light up L's all day, and thats the way it should be. Either before they go out to make a sale, or when they go out on lunch break.
except for the millions of people who don't want to smoke pot. Remember, choice.