What Drugs have you done?

I have a fairly 'normal' profile/background.
I mostly smoked weed 24/7 rather than drinking... bombed speed, romanced the acid on multiple occasions, 'E'd out plenty of times, did Coke a just a coupla times. Loved diazapam too..

Nearly all of them had a massive revelatory effect on my perceptory range/creativity. (Not so much the diazepam though..)
This was reflected in my output as a musician and also for my art, as well as in more internal ways.

Yay..!! 😛

The weed is the only mainstay for me now though.

home made C13H16N2O2 😉

Alcohol, marijuana, pills (vicodin, percocet, some random other pill), that's it.

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Alcohol, marijuana, pills (vicodin, percocet, some random other pill), that's it.

Your avatar scares the shit out of me. I thought I was on a natural trip just now. 😆

Joints and crack.

I assume that alcohol and cigarettes aren't worth talking about here.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
(which are already well known, I believe)

one would think

but only recently has real research into marijuana been allowed. Some cases were so obvious that it didn't take much, and I don't think there were ever clinical FDA trials for it (I could be totally off there).

however, the atmosphere surrounding drugs is essentially a blanket ban on research. From the stuff I do (and especially the stuff I want to get into, like consciousness research) there are very probable uses for drugs, like, one could associate changes in conscious states to various neurological function. Especially given that drugs affect higher order, subjective things, it might be the best way to reliably affect those areas. However, to get permission to have drugs at a lab, you would need security on par with animal research and so many other precautions that it is unpractical. There have also been calls recently for more research into the medical and psychiatric uses of various drugs, but again, same problems.

Pot would probably be the most researched illegal drug, but by no means do I think we know very much about it

umm I don't do drugs or alcohol angel_not hehe

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I would, but I think need a translator. Are you saying the US government would rather steal children than research the useful properties of marijuana (which are already well known, I believe)?

so glad I'm not an American...

Family and Child Services is way better up here. They don't take kindly to drugs and what have you, but my buddy just went through a whole thing with them, and generally had only positive things to say, aside from the fact he is a grown man having people tromp through his home.

well our state gets nice funding from the federal government each time a child is taken...the dont receive funding like other government agencies..lol..they have to take kids for their funding...pretty nice scheme they have huh...we dealt with them and fought them off for over a year thanks to in-law trying to get revenge on my wife...(and she wanted to step up and take custody as soon as they took our kid so she could get funding also..and a nice house or apartment government paid for etc....she's a lazy bum who fakes disability should have proved it when I had the chance!!!grr) but that last time when I made them call the law(basically on themself..hehe) they gave up and closed the case finally...I dont like this thread its a red flag I'm out..lol..L8R

Originally posted by inimalist

For instance, to me it makes more sense that you really like the stuff you come up with when you are on coke because it has already activated your dopamine and limbic systems, making you excited and happy about things in general.

your probably right, but either way i could get alot more done on coke then off coke, and revise it on a sober mind.

Originally posted by shiv
home made C13H16N2O2 😉

what?

And the way i see it pot is not a drug pot is a herb. We all know its by far safer then alcohol. The only reason it was every illegalized was because of cotton industrial lobbyists, who used the argument that it was a mind warping substance. When in reality if marijuana was legal it would of ran the cotton industry out of business.

It's less detrimental than cigarettes or alcohol.

And it's the easiest reason for the PO-lice to get a warrant to raid someones house that may have larger more dangerous drugs. So therefore they'll never give up that bargain chip.
It's all so fuc(k)ing crooked, it should be a legal, taxed substance.

double post, sorry

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
your probably right, but either way i could get alot more done on coke then off coke, and revise it on a sober mind.

I'm not saying you can't

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
And the way i see it pot is not a drug pot is a herb. We all know its by far safer then alcohol. The only reason it was every illegalized was because of cotton industrial lobbyists, who used the argument that it was a mind warping substance. When in reality if marijuana was legal it would of ran the cotton industry out of business.

It's less detrimental than cigarettes or alcohol.

And it's the easiest reason for the PO-lice to get a warrant to raid someones house that may have larger more dangerous drugs. So therefore they'll never give up that bargain chip.
It's all so fuc(k)ing crooked, it should be a legal, taxed substance.

as far as I know, it had much more to do with racism and mexican immigration, but I'm sure the cotton industry had something to do with it.

it all depends on what the definition of drug is. Pot is an illegal substance and on "controlled drug" lists. However, like, why can't something be both a herb and a drug? What about opium? or Coca leafs? Salvia Divorium? I think drug refers more to the psychoactive effects, so like, ya, pot is a drug, but so is caffeine.

lol, in canada we have talk of pot decriminalization, which is the biggest load of shit ever. Getting busted up here, all that ever happens is whatever you have on you is taken and the police don't care enough to do the paperwork to actually charge you. Decrim just lets the cops give you a ticket and then the government makes money, actually causing more harm to the user than when drugs are illegal. the mafia always needs its cut though.

EDIT: also, I find the "alcohol and cigarettes are worse" argument to be lacking. its like "well, thats not ok but we can still do it, so this is less not ok, so we should do it". imho, it is an argument that favors alcohol and cigarette prohibition rather than drug legalization

what i was trying to say is that if alcohol and cigarettes are acceptable then pot should be too.

Well we have a black president on the way if anyone is going to decriminalize it, it'll be him

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
what i was trying to say is that if alcohol and cigarettes are acceptable then pot should be too.

what you are saying though is "Look at how bad those things are, pot is the lesser of the evils"

which, to any rational person, means that all 3 should be illegal. I get the argument about precedence, but don't try to make pot out to be the best bad substance. It just gives people who might feel the other way lots of ammunition, as you are already conceding that pot is negative.

cigarettes and alcohol should be illegal? Just because there bad. No as humans we should have the right to choose what we want to do to our bodies.

Not the government act like our parents & say "No you can't have any"

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
Just because there bad. No as humans we should have the right to choose what we want to do to our bodies.

this is what I mean

this argument is much more salient, trying to rank how bad certain substances are doesn't get you anywhere. It allows for subjective evaluations and generally distracts from the fact that the prohibition of any drug, regardless of personal harm, is against freedom

at the same time crack should be illegal. Because tha'ts harmful to the extent it destroys people, families and creates poverty.
It turns you into a fiend, and i ****ing hate fiends.

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
at the same time crack should be illegal. Because tha'ts harmful to the extent it destroys people, families and creates poverty.
It turns you into a fiend, and i ****ing hate fiends.

Don't be silly.

Originally posted by Stealth Agent
at the same time crack should be illegal. Because tha'ts harmful to the extent it destroys people, families and creates poverty.
It turns you into a fiend, and i ****ing hate fiends.

at the same time, weed should be illegal. Because it is harmful. It creates unmotivated, lazy people who don't contribute to their family and end up doing other drugs and living in poverty.

It turns you into a pothead, and i ****ing hate potheads?

personal liberty should extend to slow and painful suicide. Crime done in the acquisition and as a consequence of crack should obviously be punished, yet all people who smoke crack do not end up this way. Crackheads should be treated as addicts, not as criminals, if their addiction is causing them to act in criminal ways, psychiatric and rehabilitary assistance is what they need, not jail time.