Thanos vs Onslaught (Xavier/Magneto/Franklin/Nate)

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
That is meaningless as you have not shown that she is as powerful a TP as Onslaught without outside help.

You do have to provide proof. Whether Thanos on his own can withstand TP of that level is something that has to be proven.

And as for TP's that he beat, that would be Prof X, Jean Grey, Franklin and Nate Grey.

You have to provide proof that Thanos can lose to a threat as powerful as Onslaught.

I saw a Thanos shit clone handling Nate Grey and the Hulk. 😂

And show me proof that Thanos without help can contain a Psionic creature that powerful or replicate the way he was beaten before.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
When has half the Marvel U? It doesn't prove they can't be.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
And show me proof that Thanos without help can contain a Psionic creature that powerful or replicate the way he was beaten before.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos beat Moondrago and Prof X has yet to defeat her.

I saw a Thanos shit clone handling Nate Grey and the Hulk. 😂

Actually I saw him writhing in pain in the last pic. And we still have no proof for that clones level of power.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Has he faced her without the Mind Gem and lost?

You have yet to prove that Thanos can resist TP of that level without outside help.

Actually I saw him writhing in pain in the last pic. And we still have no proof for that clones level of power.

He resisted Moondragon without help.

It was stated that he was a lower model in Infinity Abyss. He sent it after Kazar. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Show me proof Onslaught can beat him in this way. Your making the claim he can defeat him so the onus is on you.

No your trying to claim he is immune or able to overcome a power, the onus is on you. Check with the mod if you want.

And as for Moondragon, what other powerful teeps has she beaten without outside help?

Originally posted by quanchi112
And?

Odin was going all out an dthe comic backs that up.

Odin admitted he was out to kill Thanos. Read the comic.

An offensive weapon has nothing to do with his durability.

Thanos was either weakened, or before a powerup when he fought Gamora.
He wasn't hurt, he was simply cut, and that was after he beat the entire army.
Odin wanted Thanos taken down. He was pissed that his kid was being imprisoned.
He had an offensive weapon, which later on was heavily implied that he powered himself up using that babble.
Galactus got a surprise attack on Thanos, and Galactus pierced his shields, and the only thing the shields did was hold the attack in to farther hurt Thanos. It was Thanos's durability that saved him, not the shields.

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
No your trying to claim he is immune or able to overcome a power, the onus is on you. Check with the mod if you want.

And as for Moondragon, what other powerful teeps has she beaten without outside help?

She stalemated Prof X. He couldnt beat her but Thanos could.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He resisted Moondragon without help.

And you have shown nothing that proves a gemless moondragon
is the tp equal of onslaught

It was stated that he was a lower model in Infinity Abyss. He sent it after Kazar. 😂 [/B]

Lower model is a very subjective term. How lower?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has shown to be able to resist a powerful telepath. So,if he has shown the ability to win a mind war then the proof is on you.

She stalemated Prof X. He couldnt beat her but Thanos could.

Scans? And did she have the mind gem? And Onslaught has the TP powers of Prof X , Nate Grey and Franklin combined.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How many cosmic beings were required to deal with him?

Hell,Ive seen Terrax show up and wreck earth.

Anyway, wasn't Thanos beaten by half dead Nebula when he had the IG?

A plot device is a plot device, and has nothing to do with the power that one can put out or take (usually).

I don't see how your reasoning means anything, and besides, the greatest minds on Earth and lots of help beat Onslaught. Cosmic doesn't mean everything, and it certainly doesn't mean he was weak just because.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Let's be honest. There's two factors that have to be factored in. One, Onslaught isn't as strong as they say he is. Two, the writers blew and didn't know all his powers. For example, Onslaught was able to control magnetism. How come he rarely used it? But used Magneto's powers to create forcefields and "uprooted the Earth beneath them."

When has evolved Onslaught been beaten in a physical matchup? NONE!!!

In my opinion, which I have had for a while, when Onslaught absorbed the powers of Nate Grey and Franklin Richards, he only absorbed a part of their powers and not all of it. Because if he did, he would of been unstoppable.

He did absorb all of their powers not just part of it. Onslaught's energy stemmed from ALL beings. Just by existing he was destroying the universe itself. He WAS the nexus of ALL psionic energies. If he was able to dissipate he would have been unstopable. The heroes stopped him by providing a vessel (before he could dissipate) which the Xmen could physically destroy.

mental powers
onslaughts mind power would not work on thanos,to me mind no one has been able to PENERTRATE his mental/physcic defences.moondragon with the mind gem couldnt manage it,xavier hasnt either and nate grey could'nt cope once he was in thanos's mind after thanos had let him into his mind.

If Thanos has a mind then Onslaught can control him, simple as that. Onslaught IS a psionic being and had absolute control over it. Even early on Onslaught challanged Jean and the Pheonix force in the Astral Plane and easily won. He then proceded to rip the Pheonix Force template from Jean Grey.

Magnetism manipulation
and magnetos/onslaught Magnetism manipulation would'nt work on thanos simply because he can control his own molecules

Magnetism and its affects EVERYTHING!!!! In order of smallest to largest
proton < nucleus <atom <molecule< mixture< compound

if onslaughts armour was cracked open via energy/matter manip therefore releasing his energy form,thanos could simply jump into onslaught like the heroes did.then it possible thanos could absorb him/his energy,after all he did absorb/master the naked energys of the heart of the universe

Onslaught wanted his armour breached in order to evolve!!!!! The first time was done by Magneto, the second by Hulk, in each time Onslaught rejoices.

If Thanos jumped in to absorb the energy then whose going to kill Thanos? All hes doing is providing a vessel for the energy.

Okay the argument of having to prove Thanos can be effected by TP is like having to prove that Alfred can be effected by fire.

Nothing, absolutely nothing has been shown to prove that Thanos can withstand a TP of Onslaught's level without help. Which means Onslaught can turn him into a mind slave.

And Moondragon as far as I know has never, without the Mind gem, been shown to be a TP on the level of Xavier, let alone Xavier, Nate Grey and Franklin combined.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
What? He was litteraly mindrape him, tentacules hentai style!

And, even if he was nowhere near to mindrape him, have you see what it takes to Prof X to communicate with Galactus?

In a WHAT IF Age of A-poc Galactus was killed by the psionic energies of all mutants and humans on earth.............which was channeled by one person.

Onslaught's psionic power isnt just earth but from all LIVING BEINGS!!!!

Originally posted by monaroCountry
In a WHAT IF Age of A-poc Galactus was killed by the psionic energies of all mutants and humans on earth.............which was channeled by one person.

Onslaught's psionic power isnt just earth but from all LIVING BEINGS!!!!

Originally posted by monaroCountry

Onslaught's psionic power isnt just earth but from all LIVING BEINGS!!!!

Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Okay the argument of having to prove Thanos can be effected by TP is like having to prove that Alfred can be effected by fire.

Nothing, absolutely nothing has been shown to prove that Thanos can withstand a TP of Onslaught's level without help. Which means Onslaught can turn him into a mind slave.

And Moondragon as far as I know has never, without the Mind gem, been shown to be a TP on the level of Xavier, let alone Xavier, Nate Grey and Franklin combined.

Prove us that Thanos can be attacked by psionic energy. For my part, he never been, so, why he would be by Onslaught? Answer with scans.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Prove us that Thanos can be attacked by psionic energy. For my part, he never been, so, why he would be by Onslaught? Answer with scans.

Originally posted by fangirl101
that is soooooooooooooooooooo dumb. So just becuz it hasn't happend means that it can't. So what if a celestial attacked thanos with pure psionic force? you mean to tell me thanos wouldn't be effected?