Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Prove us that Thanos can be attacked by psionic energy. For my part, he never been, so, why he would be by Onslaught? Answer with scans.
It's not up to me to prove that, you might as well ask me to prove that fire effects Alfred.
Thanos has a mind, therefore susceptible to TP. It's your onus to prove that a TP of Onslaught's level cannot effect him.
I went in the respect thread of Onslaught. This is the feat that are there. I recall it, it's the RESPECT thread of Onslaught, were should be listed his high-end feats.
Link for the respect thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=424700&pagenumber=1
Feats leasted:
BEFORE ABSORBING FRANKLIN RICHARDS
Onslaught handling The Fantastic Four,Bishop and Hawkeye
Gives Beast a telepathic blast wich is so powerfull it makes Hank's ears bleed
Handling some of the X-men
AFTER ABOSRBING FRANKLIN RICHARDS:
After absorbing franklin Richard beats Thor,Cable,Cyclops,Invisible Woman,Magneto,Storm,Gambit and Rogue
Apocalypse Cable and Invisible Woman challenges Onslaught he is not in a mood of a fight so he just creates psionic projections of Hulk,Magneto and Post after he gets bored he uses Franklin's abilities to teleport them out of his citadel
After breaking the spirit of Nate Grey Onslaught absorbs him then handles Prof-X
Handling some of the Avengers
Battles the Avengers and the X-men creates a 2nd Sun and raches his final goal to get rid of his Phisical body
beats Jean Grey with Phoenix Force
Uses Franklin's powers to create him self a citadel after he creates an EMP which cause a huge damage in the city
The only feat that should be name is beating the Phoenix Force. All the rest is on Silver Surfer's league. And you really think the dude can hang in Thanos league!? He have been outsmarted by terrans!
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
It's not up to me to prove that, you might as well ask me to prove that fire effects Alfred.Thanos has a mind, therefore susceptible to TP. It's your onus to prove that a TP of Onslaught's level cannot effect him.
No. Prove that Thanos can be TP. Show us only ONE scan of Thanos being mindraped, and I admit that Onslaught win.
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Prove that.
UATU advises Apocalypse to seek Cables help in order to defeat Onslaught.
Appoc: I wonder if Onslaught himself knows of the untold wreckage he brings upon the universe? How his very existence acts as a siphon. Funnelling down the collective psionic energy of ALL LIVING CREATURES.......for his own personal usage.
Thanos' attack occured in the Astral Plane using his astral self. Onslaught is an entity that is both outside and inside the Astral plane. When he attacked the Pheonix he didnt just draw her astral presence in but her physical self as well................Only two beings have shown this ability, XMan and Onslaught.
Onslaught V Phoenix
Originally posted by MindsetPrecisely...it's common knowledge. I knew that...I didn't need a scan to accept that Franklin was as powerful as you said he was, (did you not catch the sarcasm in my posts?)
Do you want scans to show Onslaught can use telepathy as well?Things that are common knowledge don't need to be backed up with scans. No one asked for scans that Supes can fly.
It's common knowledge.
Just like it's common knowledge that Thanos is highly resistant to powerful telepathic assaults. It's common knowledge that the Thanosi that faced Ka-Zar and X-Man was a low-level clone...that the word 'lower' is not a trick word with a hidden meaning or additional connotation attached to it that can be picked apart and critiqued to the nth degree, (by a certain poster), to try to refute the idea that the Thanosi in question was indeed inferior to the real Thanos in every way.
Sometimes absolute 100% empirical proof is not available to explain every intricate detail...and in those cases we accept, at face value, what we see on panel.
Originally posted by Lord S
Precisely...it's common knowledge. I knew that...I didn't need a scan to accept that Franklin was as powerful as you said he was, (did you not catch the sarcasm in my posts?)It's common knowledge.
Just like it's common knowledge that Thanos is highly resistant to powerful telepathic assaults. It's common knowledge that the Thanosi that faced Ka-Zar and X-Man was a low-level clone...that the word 'lower' is not a trick word with a hidden meaning or additional connotation attached to it that can be picked apart and critiqued to the nth degree, (by a certain poster), to try to refute the idea that the Thanosi in question was indeed inferior to the real Thanos in every way.
Sometimes absolute 100% empirical proof is not available to explain every intricate detail...and in those cases we accept, at face value, what we see on panel.
Originally posted by Aster PhoenixSince the writer didn't deem it necessary to supply every little detail for you to pick apart and analyze, one way to guess its power level would be to look at the cast of characters in the story...Ka-Zar, Parnival Plunder, Rhino...not exactly heavyweighters that would require the use of a powerful clone.
Not without help from what we've seen.And there is no way to gauge how lower the clone was without on panel proof stating so.
Originally posted by Lord S
Since the writer didn't deem it necessary to supply every little detail for you to pick apart and analyze, one way to guess its power level would be to look at the cast of characters in the story...Ka-Zar, Parnival Plunder, Rhino...not exactly heavyweighters that would require the use of a powerful clone.
That doesn't say anything about the Clone level of Psi-Resistance vs the Real Thanos.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Thanos>>>Onslaught based on feats alone.Potentially though, Onslaught should be able to get some wins.
Originally posted by horrorwolfI don't remember Thanos ever resisting Moondragon's telepathy except at the beginning of Infinity War. And that was easily explainable by the fact that he was the paladin of the Reality Gem and therefore Moondragon's telepathy could never work on him since Adam Warlock decreed that her telepathy would never work on a fellow Infinity Gem bearer.
Thanos>>>Onslaught based on feats alone.Potentially though, Onslaught should be able to get some wins.
Thanos never plucked a source of power from an entity that was merged with it, i.e. Juggernaut, he never created a citadel out of nothing, conjured villains out of thin air and never created a sun out of nothing. I can certainly imagine a storyline where Onslaught is defeated by Thanos, since Onslaught was not a very well fleshed out character... but featwise... Onslaught wins.
EDIT: Wow. That was a bunch of spelling errors. Too many beers.
Originally posted by Aster PhoenixI never said she was but based on Thanos' entire history Onslaught doesnt beat him just because. We dont know what kind of mind it would take to beat Thanos' if at possible. That is the point.
And you have shown nothing that proves a gemless moondragon
is the tp equal of onslaughtLower model is a very subjective term. How lower?
You saying Onslaught mindrapes him means jack. You have done nothing to prove he can.
Lower meaning less powerful. It was a shit model hence it faced Kazar. A higher end model went up against Thor because obviously the power model wasnt powerful enough to deal with Thor.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said she was but based on Thanos' entire history Onslaught doesnt beat him just because. We dont know what kind of mind it would take to beat Thanos' if at possible. That is the point.
It's up to you to prove that Onslaught does not possess such a mind.
You saying Onslaught mindrapes him means jack. You have done nothing to prove he can.
Onslaught posses the power to control people and effect their minds,
It's up to you to prove that Thanos is immune to this.
Lower meaning less powerful. It was a shit model hence it faced Kazar. A higher end model went up against Thor because obviously the power model wasnt powerful enough to deal with Thor.
Still says nothing about it's level of psi-immunity vs the real Thanos.