Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Brian Buckner mentioned in a comic con panel that next season will go back to the show's roots and focus more on human relationships in Bon Temps. Aka, it's going to be lame. There probably won't be a Maryann/Russell/Warlow/Lilith type ancient creature to battle with. In fact, with Warlow and possibly Eric(?) having met the true deaths, I doubt there are even any old and crazy supes left to threaten anybody. Just the Hep-V infected vamps.Age most certainly still holds. Season 6 made it very clear with Violet and Eric respectively dominating the female and male vampire genpops in Vamp Camp.
Though I agree in general that Godric would whoop any vampire short of Lilith the "Godric-beheader" herself.
On a sidenote, anyone else getting the feeling that Lettie Mae might have be Hep V positive?
The rest is disappointing. Bring it back to its roots sure, but give us something major to go with it.
quanchii
He doesn't show up until half way through the season, though fine at the time because his hype was being built up. Lines like this "Do you know the one thing more dangerous than a martyr? A 3,000 year old vampire who hasn't fed in over a year. Suffering doesn't kill the appetite for power, it exacerbates it. I have dedicated my guardianship to the fight for co-existence and I will not see it go swirling down the shitter because of one ancient pissed off psychopath" letting on that he's pissed, hungry, going mad and looking for revenge and worth the wait, almost confirmed when the first thing he does is laugh in the Authority's face and kill Roman..
Moments later all of the hype went out the window, leaving all of that crazy and bloodthirst behind and acting just like the rest of them in the anti-mainstreaming plots and focusing on romance. Like he didn't care about his betrayal, defeat or the loss of Talbot (which was a major emotional ordeal for him). He's like that for a third of the season until delivering his greatest scene in TB, verbally flipping off the Authority. It was here I thought "Okay, he still has two episodes left to rake in the awesome" but I was only partially right. Half way though the ep he shows up, though to credit him he's back as Classic!Russell; kidnapping and being the first vamp to forcibly attack the Fae in a few millennia, defeats the Elder, gains her essence and takes on the rest. And then it is once again all lost in the most anticlimactic way; with Eric just running up and killing him, not resisting and in the first few seconds of the episode.
TL;DR- 6 episodes of hype with 5 mins at the end of ep6 and beginning of ep7 showing that hype. Being a self-proclaimed 'lapdog' for the rest of ep7 to the end of ep10 ending in that hype of a speech. Then the end half of ep11 being his usual, lovable self only to be killed off seconds into ep12. They hyped him up for him so much for him to barely deliver. I was seriously wanting him to come back as a greater threat than before.
I'd say no for being a 'meh' death with a main character.
Then again it wouldnt be the first time, and everything to do with Eric has been closed off. Makers dead, sisters dead, has killed all involved in theirs and his parents death, Pam's not his prodigy anymore.. guess that was the reason he just flew off. Okay, not looking so good for him.
Originally posted by MindsetFalse. He was only around 2,000 or so years old. We see him towards the end as still combating but at this point he was ready to die.
By the time we saw Godric he was disillusioned with his life, but he was a warrior for around 3k years.They should have showed more of that version.
Russell has superior feats and ruthlessness to go with it.
No shame in being number 2 to Russell.
Originally posted by BloodRain
I found Russ more epic than Eric but overall Eric gave more, and tbh Russ let me down quite a bit. Going in the first thing I knew was how great Russ was (your fault lol) with that news and leaving the Authority being the clincher. Season 3 showed that. It was his second coming that's my issue..He doesn't show up until half way through the season, though fine at the time because his hype was being built up. Lines like this "Do you know the one thing more dangerous than a martyr? A 3,000 year old vampire who hasn't fed in over a year. Suffering doesn't kill the appetite for power, it exacerbates it. I have dedicated my guardianship to the fight for co-existence and I will not see it go swirling down the shitter because of one ancient pissed off psychopath" letting on that he's pissed, hungry, going mad and looking for revenge and worth the wait, almost confirmed when the first thing he does is laugh in the Authority's face and kill Roman..
Moments later all of the hype went out the window, leaving all of that crazy and bloodthirst behind and acting just like the rest of them in the anti-mainstreaming plots and focusing on romance. Like he didn't care about his betrayal, defeat or the loss of Talbot (which was a major emotional ordeal for him). He's like that for a third of the season until delivering his greatest scene in TB, verbally flipping off the Authority. It was here I thought "Okay, he still has two episodes left to rake in the awesome" but I was only partially right. Half way though the ep he shows up, though to credit him he's back as Classic!Russell; kidnapping and being the first vamp to forcibly attack the Fae in a few millennia, defeats the Elder, gains her essence and takes on the rest. And then it is once again all lost in the most anticlimactic way; with Eric just running up and killing him, not resisting and in the first few seconds of the episode.
TL;DR- 6 episodes of hype with 5 mins at the end of ep6 and beginning of ep7 showing that hype. Being a self-proclaimed 'lapdog' for the rest of ep7 to the end of ep10 ending in that hype of a speech. Then the end half of ep11 being his usual, lovable self only to be killed off seconds into ep12. They hyped him up for him so much for him to barely deliver. I was seriously wanting him to come back as a greater threat than before.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Really can't see Eric being killed off in such a pathetic, pointless way. He'd better not be, or we'd be left with Violet being the strongest vampire left.The rest is disappointing. Bring it back to its roots sure, but give us something major to go with it.
Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, looks like the threat will be roving bands of AIDS Vampires instead of one great enemy.I seriously doubt Eric is dead, he's too big of a character to get the Russell and to a lesser extent Warlow treatment of a quick uneventful death. IMO, he'll appear at some pivotal point.
Yeah, I was thinking the mother was a sort of Trojan horse, possibly thinking she's saving Tara by infecting and eventually killing her.
Even though I know it'll be one of the dumbest moves on the TB producers' part(and they have made quite a few dumb moves in the past), letting him go seems like a strong possibility at this moment.
Originally posted by quanchi112
we saw in that scene Eric amped her. We also saw she was able to actually move unlike Niall. Quit being as desperate as Warlow was for Sookie. You are a lot like your champion. It amps someone immediately not days later. 🙂The amp does not last for days and Niall couldn't even fight back. The amp if there is one comes onto play immediately after being ingested. The best part of this is how utterly dishonest of a debater you become. You are so petty. I'm always right. I'm laughing at you. I have been laughing after I found you like a sneak thief begging others to agree with your opinion only to find out he's as pathetic as I have claimed. Niall glowed due to the dimensional barrier which had been erected. How desperate are you ? If it amped his strength he wouldn't need a human and half Fae to help him escape it.
Russell was in a room against the entire Authority after he staked Roman. They had a tactical team set up while he went after Eric Northman.
False. Warlow fled from Bill after he used a branch to knock him into a rock piercing him. Russell was not surprised by Bill at all during their fight. Bill tackled him, hit him with the branch mid blitz, and almost sakes him but could not due to his lack of entry into the home.
Keep saying your baseless claims.
Russell destroys the guy overpowered by a Fae and killed by a human. What an absolutely pathetic death.
Stew in your defeat.
😂 😂 😂
That tactical team comprised of the same type of individuals that were Nan Flanagan's bodyguards. Guess what happened to her guards? Eric beheaded them all. That's right, Russell was being cautious against a bunch of creatures that Eric could casually pwn.
Wrong. He kicked Bill like a mongrel pup before leaving to get Sookie. His main objective was to turn Sookie at that point, not go on a mindless killing spree. Once his Lilith-powers were gone, Bill was an insect to him.
Warlow beats the guy owned by Sookie Stackhouse in a one-on-one fight. Your trollish routine has gotten successively more boring after every post that you make on this thread.
Originally posted by BloodRainYour preference is your own. Characters usually grow and change. What we get used to sometimes changes along the way. To me Russell blazed a path like no other on the show.
Really can't see Eric being killed off in such a pathetic, pointless way. He'd better not be, or we'd be left with Violet being the strongest vampire left.The rest is disappointing. Bring it back to its roots sure, but give us something major to go with it.
I found Russ more epic than Eric but overall Eric gave more, and tbh Russ let me down quite a bit. Going in the first thing I knew was how great Russ was (your fault lol) with that news and leaving the Authority being the clincher. Season 3 showed that. It was his second coming that's my issue..
He doesn't show up until half way through the season, though fine at the time because his hype was being built up. Lines like this "Do you know the one thing more dangerous than a martyr? A 3,000 year old vampire who hasn't fed in over a year. Suffering doesn't kill the appetite for power, it exacerbates it. I have dedicated my guardianship to the fight for co-existence and I will not see it go swirling down the shitter because of one ancient pissed off psychopath" letting on that he's pissed, hungry, going mad and looking for revenge and worth the wait, almost confirmed when the first thing he does is laugh in the Authority's face and kill Roman..
Moments later all of the hype went out the window, leaving all of that crazy and bloodthirst behind and acting just like the rest of them in the anti-mainstreaming plots and focusing on romance. Like he didn't care about his betrayal, defeat or the loss of Talbot (which was a major emotional ordeal for him). He's like that for a third of the season until delivering his greatest scene in TB, verbally flipping off the Authority. It was here I thought "Okay, he still has two episodes left to rake in the awesome" but I was only partially right. Half way though the ep he shows up, though to credit him he's back as Classic!Russell; kidnapping and being the first vamp to forcibly attack the Fae in a few millennia, defeats the Elder, gains her essence and takes on the rest. And then it is once again all lost in the most anticlimactic way; with Eric just running up and killing him, not resisting and in the first few seconds of the episode.
TL;DR- 6 episodes of hype with 5 mins at the end of ep6 and beginning of ep7 showing that hype. Being a self-proclaimed 'lapdog' for the rest of ep7 to the end of ep10 ending in that hype of a speech. Then the end half of ep11 being his usual, lovable self only to be killed off seconds into ep12. They hyped him up for him so much for him to barely deliver. I was seriously wanting him to come back as a greater threat than before.
Firstly, Russell is the only season antagonist to live past their season. That alone says something since the rest perished. Watching Alan Ball talk about Russell we see he feels season antagonists have to die. With that being said he was not the main season antagonist of season 5 so in their eyes he could not steal the spotlight again in the cliffhanger so we see him perish at the beginning of the final episode.
Alan Ball goes on to say the final death shows off how powerful he is and despite the awkward placement of it falling at the beginning of episode 12 we see why that went that way. At first I was greatly annoyed at them killing him off but now I am happy they did so. More is less. He had enough feats and screen time with legendary moments.
His dialogue was unmatched. Think about all the characters he killed off and affected. Eric Northman's family, Magister, Roman, Dieter Braun, and the Faerie Elder. Those are significant moments and impact players.
Just seeing him shuts waltz around and push people around in season five was awesome. When he finally had enough of playing nice we see him tell off the remainder of the Authority in epic fashion.
Just seeing the Faerie Elder speak of Warlow but the mere mention of Russell sends her into a panic. Unforgettable. Awesome. The best character of True Blood. Hands down.
Haters like Robbie and killer just want to hype their champion, Warlow. Different strokes for different folks.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerNo, see that isn't how debating works. You don't throw shit in the wall and say disprove it. You need to prove it. V amps someone immediately. That's a fact. Too much time passed for there to be an amp. If you cannot support your jackass claims then well welcome to the land of the inept. No amp just restraining Warlow the pathetic.
Niall was able to move as well though, he just couldn't fully come out of that dimension. My point still stands, as you've been unable to disprove it.That tactical team comprised of the same type of individuals that were Nan Flanagan's bodyguards. Guess what happened to her guards? Eric beheaded them all. That's right, Russell was being cautious against a bunch of creatures that Eric could casually pwn.
Wrong. He kicked Bill like a mongrel pup before leaving to get Sookie. His main objective was to turn Sookie at that point, not go on a mindless killing spree. Once his Lilith-powers were gone, Bill was an insect to him.
Warlow beats the guy owned by Sookie Stackhouse in a one-on-one fight. Your trollish routine has gotten successively more boring after every post that you make on this thread.
Those were different guards and Russell was against Eric as well. They were following protocol and had the rest of the Authority on their side. Russell owned Eric easily unlike Warlow in his fight against Bill.
Billy's Lilith powers were gone for the entire fight. Insects don't knock people around or pierce the right side of their chests. 😂
Insects don't tackle us either.
The beat is seeing everyone mock Warlow no the True Blood site in season 6 reflections. You're a fanboy and a easily forgettable person. You don't nor will you ever stand out.
Russell owns a guy staked by a dumb human. Niall overpowered him. Russell rapes him.
Warlow got weaker with practically every showing. Figures you go crazy for him. Similarities and all.
Originally posted by Rikudo senninNo one takes killer's theories seriously. He is just petty and upset his favorite character turned out to be such a *****. I tried telling him but I won't ever stop reminding him I was right. Teehee.
I am not defending quanchi but the light from Niall came from the portal. He was literally wrapped in that. It wasn't even a bright light.It was the same energy that composed the portal. And Niall wouldn't have implied he was struggling if it was fairy light. As that would have left Warlow powerless.
And there was no difference in the light after warlow died. So it had to be the portal's energy as otherwise Niall would have extinguished it.
^Warlow isn't my favorite character though. I just argue according to logic and against your lowballing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, see that isn't how debating works. You don't throw shit in the wall and say disprove it. You need to prove it. V amps someone immediately. That's a fact. Too much time passed for there to be an amp. If you cannot support your jackass claims then well welcome to the land of the inept. No amp just restraining Warlow the pathetic.Those were different guards and Russell was against Eric as well. They were following protocol and had the rest of the Authority on their side. Russell owned Eric easily unlike Warlow in his fight against Bill.
Billy's Lilith powers were gone for the entire fight. Insects don't knock people around or pierce the right side of their chests. 😂
Insects don't tackle us either.
The beat is seeing everyone mock Warlow no the True Blood site in season 6 reflections. You're a fanboy and a easily forgettable person. You don't nor will you ever stand out.
Russell owns a guy staked by a dumb human. Niall overpowered him. Russell rapes him.
Warlow got weaker with practically every showing. Figures you go crazy for him. Similarities and all.
Russell had roughly as many "low showings" in the prev season as Warlow did in this one. Both were owned by Eric(context involved in both Russell and Warlow scenarios) at some point or another, both were a major threat to Sookie(although Warlow came far closer than Russell did) that everyone else involved had to band together to fight off, and both died in a chumpy manner. That's just True Blood writers telling us the amount of fucks they give about extremely old vampires always dominating the show.
He shrugged Bill of as the nuisance that he was. Bill got overpowered. Bill never stood a chance. Warlow was focused on Sookie as well. Bill got owned in 2 different encounters with Warlow in that episode, yet in your fantasy land it's a low showing for the winner of both fights(Warlow) somehow.
Warlow beats Russell easier than Sookie did so. Older vampire wins just as Season 6 made clear in Vamp Camp. I also mentioned on the True Blood Site how Lilith would withdraw her powers, and how daywalking would be dependent on Warlow staying alive or not. My claims have been right all along.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerNo, you ignore the feats and what happens in the episodes. You love Warlow. That is the boat Younhave attached yourself to.
^Warlow isn't my favorite character though. I just argue according to logic and against your lowballing.Says the guy who's never been in an ACTUAL debate. Online flamewars don't count, quan. Wrong, V's effects last depending on the quality and grade of V. The older the vampire, the better quality of its blood. Warlow was 5500 years old, so his V is logically the best grade shown so far apart from Lilith's own blood.
Russell had roughly as many "low showings" in the prev season as Warlow did in this one. Both were owned by Eric(context involved in both Russell and Warlow scenarios) at some point or another, both were a major threat to Sookie(although Warlow came far closer than Russell did) that everyone else involved had to band together to fight off, and both died in a chumpy manner. That's just True Blood writers telling us the amount of fucks they give about extremely old vampires always dominating the show.
He shrugged Bill of as the nuisance that he was. Bill got overpowered. Bill never stood a chance. Warlow was focused on Sookie as well. Bill got owned in 2 different encounters with Warlow in that episode, yet in your fantasy land it's a low showing for the winner of both fights(Warlow) somehow.
Warlow beats Russell easier than Sookie did so. Older vampire wins just as Season 6 made clear in Vamp Camp. I also mentioned on the True Blood Site how Lilith would withdraw her powers, and how daywalking would be dependent on Warlow staying alive or not. My claims have been right all along.
Oh really.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f89/t582919.html
You have never done one, pansy. You lack balls and intelligence.
V happens immediately. There is no proof days later he was amped off V. To make the claim you need evidence. In debating you need proof to make a claim. If you cannot support it then it is baseless.
🙂
Don't you dare for a second compare Warlow to Russell. Ever.
Russell was beyond Eric in a fight. Hence the crazy situations he needed in his favor as he could never directly come at a fully powered Russell as Bill did to Warlow.
Wrong. Bill pierced him. Warlow left the plane. Bill came after him and then Warlow kicked him. Warlow then fled and would have staked him but due to Warlow being in the house this made him safe from Bill. He then ko'd him. Context.
False. Tara beat Jessica and Bill staked Nan. Bill showed the speed and power to **** Warlow up. Warlow was a massive disappointment. He was owned all season. This was just the final straw a straight up battle.
The best part was Niall overpowering him. That was beyond terrible for Warlow.
You claimed Sookie used the super nova attack. Wrong. You said Warlow was pissed off and he was going to wreck shit. He died. Niall straight up overpowered his ass.
Russell rapes him. He does not even need to dodge the blast since Niall is strong enough to just restrain him as the resident dumbass staked him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you ignore the feats and what happens in the episodes. You love Warlow. That is the boat Younhave attached yourself to.Oh really.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f89/t582919.htmlYou have never done one, pansy. You lack balls and intelligence.
V happens immediately. There is no proof days later he was amped off V. To make the claim you need evidence. In debating you need proof to make a claim. If you cannot support it then it is baseless.
🙂Don't you dare for a second compare Warlow to Russell. Ever.
Russell was beyond Eric in a fight. Hence the crazy situations he needed in his favor as he could never directly come at a fully powered Russell as Bill did to Warlow.
Wrong. Bill pierced him. Warlow left the plane. Bill came after him and then Warlow kicked him. Warlow then fled and would have staked him but due to Warlow being in the house this made him safe from Bill. He then ko'd him. Context.
False. Tara beat Jessica and Bill staked Nan. Bill showed the speed and power to **** Warlow up. Warlow was a massive disappointment. He was owned all season. This was just the final straw a straight up battle.
The best part was Niall overpowering him. That was beyond terrible for Warlow.
You claimed Sookie used the super nova attack. Wrong. You said Warlow was pissed off and he was going to wreck shit. He died. Niall straight up overpowered his ass.
Russell rapes him. He does not even need to dodge the blast since Niall is strong enough to just restrain him as the resident dumbass staked him.
V's effects and its duration are dependent on the quality, which is dependent on the age of the vampire. Point proven.
Russell was every bit of a "chump" in Season 5 as Warlow allegedly was in Season 6. It must ruffle your feathers worse than anything. 😂
Violet dominated the female genpop. Eric dominated the male genpop. Warlow beat Bill. Season 6 highlighted the difference between older vamp vs younger vamp. I know it's a little hard to see that through the fanboy-blindness inducing quanglasses you wear, but I do have a hope that you'll get it soon enough. Even you can't be that far gone.
Bill tripped a Warlow that was speeding towards the rest of the group. The impalement didn't effect him. Bill was a nuisance. Warlow kicked him around like a dog before going for the Stackhouse home. Bill got owned in that scene, but the quanglasses predictably see it as a low showing for Warlow.
Warlow was wrecking sh1t until Niall returned. He neutralized and owned everyone from Bill, Andy, Violet and Jason. I made a number of predictions regarding the finale, and I was correct on everyone of them. Warlow beats the guy who gets owned by Sookie Stackhouse, lol.