Ganthet vs. Galactus

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, galactus is kinda lazy and he really doesn't go outside the lines of looking for worlds to eat. his fights are few and far between, but he did beat tyrant who was given energies very close to his own. together they smashed multiple galaxies, the number of which and how much they individually smashed is unknown.

Again, what you've done here is named a feat that I've been using as an example since the beginning of my participation in this.

My whole POINT hinges on the fact that Galactus' greatest feat - his battle with Tyrant - is on par with Odin's greatest feats - his battle with Infinity and Seth.

Originally posted by Desaad
Again, what you've done here is named a feat that I've been using as an example since the beginning of my participation in this.

My whole POINT hinges on the fact that Galactus' greatest feat - his battle with Tyrant - is on par with Odin's greatest feats - his battle with Infinity and Seth.

Originally posted by fangirl101
We have no proof at all that Galactus and Tyrant Destroyed any Galaxies, And we don't know if it was as quick as Odin and Seth did. How long Big G's fight with Tyrant would let us know if they were one shotting galaxies or destroying them parts at a time.

So you're actually arguing that Odin is MORE powerful than Galactus?

Originally posted by Desaad
Again, what you've done here is named a feat that I've been using as an example since the beginning of my participation in this.

My whole POINT hinges on the fact that Galactus' greatest feat - his battle with Tyrant - is on par with Odin's greatest feats - his battle with Infinity and Seth.

Originally posted by Desaad
Don't you see how that is circular logic? "He's not weak at all, normally, but the evidence that he was weak is that he was taken down by two characters".

You preclude any other conclusion -- Any time he has a bad showing he was must have already been incredibly weak beforehand.

He was near starvation before the battle, before creating a couple story device, and then he exerted a bunch of energy in the short fight, and was shrinking, then Dr Strange came in, and then Thing. It took a mind attack, and punch from Thing to put him near death. Obviously he must have been incredibly weakened before hand.

No I don't. When he's actually weakened, I'll say he's weakened.

Originally posted by Desaad
When doesn't he? When does he say "I'm strong!" before he goes into a battle?

Originally posted by Desaad
Can you name me a showing in which he faces down a foe when he's not already weakened?

Originally posted by Desaad
But how can that be -- he was HUNGRY, and you're saying that hunger ALWAYS indicates weakness, aren't you?

Or is it possible to be hungry, but still be full strength? If I'm hungry, I can still run my PB, regardless. I can't sustain it forever, but I am pretty much good to go for a long while before I actually start getting weak.

Irrelevant.
Plus, energy is the only thing Galactus runs on. He doesn't have muscles, fat, etc to sustain him. Him being hungry is like us instantly losing fats and proteins.

Originally posted by Desaad
Galactus has regularly sent the Surfer out to find another world right after he consumes another, saying "the hunger shall soon be upon me again".

He is almost always hungry.

Well, that means he isn't hungry... so I don't know what the point of that one was... it means he's planning for when he does become hungry again.

Originally posted by Desaad
So you're actually arguing that Odin is MORE powerful than Galactus?

Originally posted by Desaad
He did it against Moondragon way back before he got his FIRST upgrade, in fact. And even in Annihilation he proves that he doesn't have true telepathy when he requires Moondragon to read Annihilus' mind.

You know my feelings on the Maker -- That wasn't a mindrape, that is you misreading it, and bringing in fan websites doesn't change that.

So, still zero evidence of a power up.

No, this was the Hunger Arc, and Galactus is seen feeding on a star earlier.

Again, Thanos' blast against Odin didn't even MOVE him. Thanos' blast against Galactus sent him flying and destroyed his helmet.

How can you possibly claim they are in any way equal?

I've thought about it. It's ridiculous. But Surfer's speed and manueverability have allowed him to mount attacks against Galactus for a disturbing length of time without reprisals (he always loses, mind you).

Odin was having FUN in their battle, as I stated above. He ENJOYED a good fight. Galactus was angry, wanted to end it quickly, DOESN"T enjoy a good fight.

Odin was out for the kill. Its verified in the comic. If you feel different you dont have a leg to stand on,and its an opinion that ignores the dialogue of the comic itself.

Right here.

Where does that say that Odin is out for the kill?

What? It's Galactus' HIGHEST feat. I'm 'clinging' to it because I'm comparing their best.

Not only does Odin have more examples of feats at this level (2 or 3 to Galactus' 1), but he's got more impressive battles against beings who can verifiably do the same.

You're lucky I'm not claiming that Odin is MORE powerful than Galactus, because feats could point in that direction. [/QUOTE]

Ok,where do I begin here. First off Moondragon initiated the mind battle. So,your wrong there. Key word is INITIATE. Moondragon attacked Thanos' mind an dhe defended himself and won. So,far you have nothing which is no surprise to me. I said mindrape. He raped the Maker's mind and the Fallen One's. I really cant see how you would disagree with that.http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/kosmoscube.htm

Not this star.

When did he feed in this arc?

Again Thanos disputed Odin's claim to superiority over him but didnt dispute Galactus' overwhelming power advantage. He was running through Odin blasts. Galactus wasnt damaged in the slightest,so I fail to see your point.

In a forum battle totally devoid of plot,Galactus wrecks the Surfer. You know it and I know it.

You never asked for that scan. You asked for a scan where Thanos challenged his superiority and I supplied it.

Now the scan where Odin admits he is out to kill Thanos.

So,far youve been wrong on multiple issues here,while I havent.

Originally posted by Desaad
So you're actually arguing that Odin is MORE powerful than Galactus?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Where does that say that Odin is out for the kill?

What? It's Galactus' HIGHEST feat. I'm 'clinging' to it because I'm comparing their best.

Not only does Odin have more examples of feats at this level (2 or 3 to Galactus' 1), but he's got more impressive battles against beings who can verifiably do the same.

You're lucky I'm not claiming that Odin is MORE powerful than Galactus, because feats could point in that direction.

Ok,where do I begin here. First off Moondragon initiated the mind battle. So,your wrong there. Key word is INITIATE. Moondragon attacked Thanos' mind an dhe defended himself and won. So,far you have nothing which is no surprise to me. I said mindrape. He raped the Maker's mind and the Fallen One's. I really cant see how you would disagree with that.http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/kosmoscube.htm

Not this star.

When did he feed in this arc?

Again Thanos disputed Odin's claim to superiority over him but didnt dispute Galactus' overwhelming power advantage. He was running through Odin blasts. Galactus wasnt damaged in the slightest,so I fail to see your point.

In a forum battle totally devoid of plot,Galactus wrecks the Surfer. You know it and I know it.

You never asked for that scan. You asked for a scan where Thanos challenged his superiority and I supplied it.

Now the scan where Odin admits he is out to kill Thanos.

So,far youve been wrong on multiple issues here,while I havent. [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Desaad
Yeah, he got cut out of the fight before it even began. Doesn't prove anything about his power matches up to Galactus, since Galactus didn't get through that.

Quick question; How many Celestials has Galactus battled in continuity?

Quick Answer None!

Quick Question: What does your above argument prove?

Quick Answer Nothing!

Then he showed them what he would do if they continued,they quickly backed down.

Odin amped himself and later fought them. Odin came up short in the destroyer armor. If Galactus brought his un,which is capable of multiversal feats then it woul dsurely be another story. Just sayin.

Has Odin ever displayed anything better on his own than destroying 3 star systems?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Nope. Just that that feat of tyrant and Galactus isn't telling us much. As we don't know what power leves each were at, how the battles happened etc. Tyrant had an army on his side as well. Galactus is more powerful than Odin. I don't think he could kill Odin with one blast or anything but, he would win and kill Odin. Galactus cannot kill Ganthet tho.

Originally posted by Desaad
So has Quasar.

Originally posted by Desaad
So has Odin

Originally posted by Desaad
Kind of piddling when we are talking about galactic destroyers, isn't it?

Plus it was on his own.

Originally posted by Desaad
I don't know that there is a reason to seperate all these, when all three happened as the result of one blast (the solar system destroying one).

Originally posted by Desaad
Well yeah, he created 'em.

At least 7 herald level beings.

Originally posted by Desaad
Right. Odin has done something like this at least twice.

Originally posted by Desaad
I'll be honest; his battle against Mephisto should be counted AGAINST him given the kind of terrible showings we've seen from Mephisto in his own realm and out of it.

Originally posted by Desaad
These are all fine and dandy, and recall that I'm not trying to put down Galactus here.

But none of these outshine Odin's battles with Surtur, a verifiable Galaxy burster (The same can't be said for Inbetweener, for instance, nor that version of Phoenix so far as I know).

I'm arguing for parity. You guys, the Galactus supporters, should be able to bring in something that definitively places Galactus above Odin if you feel that to be true, ESPECIALLY since so many of you seem to think the difference is great.

Isn't that a reasonable expectation on my part?

Surtur... when did Surtur bust galaxies without his Twilight Sword (not saying it didn't happen, but I don't recall)? And didn't Odin die twice fighting Surtur?

Anyway, I was just naming feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You arent the judge of these threads.

Never claimed to be, your the one who seemed to care so much about whether or not I believed you.

Originally posted by Desaad
So you're actually arguing that Odin is MORE powerful than Galactus?

Hmm.... interesting theory.

Mjolnir itself is also more powerful than Surfer by norrin's own admission.

Originally posted by Desaad
Again, what you've done here is named a feat that I've been using as an example since the beginning of my participation in this.

My whole POINT hinges on the fact that Galactus' greatest feat - his battle with Tyrant - is on par with Odin's greatest feats - his battle with Infinity and Seth.

Except that it isn't Galactus greatest feat is when he battled Agamotto in a battle that neither toke seriously.

That battle wreacked Havoc within multiply other dimensions.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5167/galactusagamatto57wn.jpg.

Furthermore Galactus has defeated the Proemial Gods each of them possesing powers beyond that of Post Retcon Beyonder that still possessed enough power to destroy the Universe.

http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=annihilationsilversurfenc1.jpg

Galactus has also broken the Power of Five CCU, in that way seperating Eternity and Infinity.

Furthermore it has been stated on panel that Galactus during Annihilation while weak had the power too destroy both the Negative Universe and the 616 reality

http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/?action=view&current=galactusuniversefeatno4.jpg

And Finally Kubik himself stated that Galactus along with the Celestials are part of the greater powers, beings that possesses powers above them, do I need to remind what Kubik did?

Edit: and as previous mentioned what is Odins single greatest destructive feat on his own that's right he doesn't have any except with help produce enough power to blow a planet out of orbit, compared to what Galactus resently did that is laughable.

Galactus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odin

Galactus Wins. Flawless Victory.

Originally posted by Blight
Galactus Wins. Flawless Victory.

Fatality.

Originally posted by Avlon
Hmm.... interesting theory.

Mjolnir itself is also more powerful than Surfer by norrin's own admission.

he's not even de-powered tyrant level....even with back up.