Kratos and Sephiroth vs. Dante and Cloud

Sephiroth rases his hand and they all of the meteors come down. He doesnt really even summon them.

Raising the hand takes time you know. It will be chopped of before he has gotten the chance to use it 😛

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]From what I have seen, Teresa and Clare quite easily outskill Kratos shrug [/B]

Kratos has been training in combat since he was a child, he was not only a powerful warrior, but an accomplished war general.

He, as a normal human, fought against overwhelming odds and won.

Kratos is trained in many styles of combat, and effortlessly wields a complicated and unique weapon like chain blades with precision and skill.

Kratos is more skilled.

1. No, not because they swing them fast. I should be insulted for you thinking me thinking that 😛

2. So has Claymore. Since they were children.

3. Clare had barely any Yuki sense and fought with incredible skills. Especially during the Cathedral episode and her fight against Miria. Teresa was able to fight Priscilla, who emitted no Yuki at all. This while at the same time fighting Irene, Sophia and Noelle. She then fought a partially Awakened Priscilla and defeated her. They have both showed great swordsmanship under circumstances where normal Claymore shouldnt because it did not have the natural Claymore touch to the fight [Yuki involvement among other things]

4. The style of combat I can understand why you bring up, but the weapon part really does not matter 😛

5. I disagree. Although this would not be the thread for this debate.

He just needs to move his hand. Plus a sheild goes around him.

Since when did Sephiroth have a passive shield around himself?

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]1. No, not because they swing them fast. I should be insulted for you thinking me thinking that 😛

2. So has Claymore. Since they were children.

3. Clare had barely any Yuki sense and fought with incredible skills. Especially during the Cathedral episode and her fight against Miria. Teresa was able to fight Priscilla, who emitted no Yuki at all. This while at the same time fighting Irene, Sophia and Noelle. She then fought a partially Awakened Priscilla and defeated her. They have both showed great swordsmanship under circumstances where normal Claymore shouldnt because it did not have the natural Claymore touch to the fight [Yuki involvement among other things]

4. The style of combat I can understand why you bring up, but the weapon part really does not matter 😛

5. I disagree. Although this would not be the thread for this debate. [/B]

I'm just a dick. 😐

2. Were they trained in the art of war though? Tracking down and killing Yoma sure, but not true battlefield combat, and they also had superhuman abilities to rely on, whereas Kratos for most of his life did not. He had to rely on pure skill and brutality.

3. Teresa is also like...The strongest Claymore ever and has vast amounts of Yoki, allowing her to fight at 10% against opponents using 100%.

4. It does, do you think any plain Joe Smoe could wield a weapon like Kratos'?

5. True. 131

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. I didn't really think you thought that silly. 😛

I'm just a dick. 😐

2. Were they trained in the art of war though? Tracking down and killing Yoma sure, but not true battlefield combat, and they also had superhuman abilities to rely on, whereas Kratos for most of his life did not. He had to rely on pure skill and brutality.

3. Teresa is also like...The strongest Claymore ever and has vast amounts of Yoki, allowing her to fight at 10% against opponents using 100%.

4. It does, do you think any plain Joe Smoe could wield a weapon like Kratos'?

5. True. 131

1. You better not 313

2. They did have combat training and it was rather tough. Not everyone survived the training, because they were pushing the Claymores to their limit 😉 Against eachother, Yoma and that sorta things.

3. Actually she fought an Awakened One at 0%, and defeated her without breaking a sweat flirt

4. Nope. I do not.

5. You bet it is 131

cloud wins against sephiroth after a fight

dante wins against kratos.

Kratos could solo though.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
cloud wins against sephiroth after a fight

😆

When you are fighting Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts and he is bringing down his meteors and you try to hit him, it doesnt work because there is a skin-tight shield around him.

Noncanon

Cloud can defeat Sephiroth on his own but when Kratos has Sephiroth's back, Cloud's head is on a platter (same goes for Dante).

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Cloud can defeat Sephiroth on his own

😆

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Cloud can defeat Sephiroth on his own but when Kratos has Sephiroth's back, Cloud's head is on a platter (same goes for Dante).

Wait. So Cloud can beat Sephiroth. Did you not recently say that Kratos and Sephiroth were two of the most powerful characters in the fictional world? 😖

Well for some reason in the games, Cloud has owned Seph in the past and since Seph is having aid from Kratos, they'll win.

Sephiroth would need Kratos to win, but Kratos would not need Sephiroth to win this 😛

Exactly.

Thing is, he is basically super cheap by the end of GOW2.

He can control and travel through time at a whim and kill Dante in the past, and actually could kill either of them one on one if he were to fight them directly.

If Kratos can can go through time, he can kill Cloud's mother so he won't be born and Dante would be all alone in this fight and gets brutally massacred by Kratos and Sephiroth. Simple as that.