Kratos and Sephiroth vs. Dante and Cloud

Originally posted by leonheartmm
1. kratos is a human, and his physical power has him at times straining to pick up large building pillars.

2. shadows move at the speed of SHADOWS, simple. the enemeis in mirrors travel at the speed of reflection, the lightening enemies in dmc1 wer licing lightening, and teh enemeis in devil may cry 4 become a BOLT OF LIGHTENING to quickly travel to different locations, if you want a video, i can find you one.

3. zeus with the blade of olympus isnt as strong as a universal embodiement of an abstract concept. everything in mythology usually happens on a LOCALISED scale{e.g. you cant compare hades in the hercules movie or god of war to "death" in marvel now can you?}

4. being an immortal god who is the very embodeiment of the concept of dispar isnt enough for you? how about the ability to destroy the world or enough power, for which he/she was resummoned?

5. with a single blast dante KILLED the despair embodied. not to mention eternally trapped mundus in another dimension, that makes his guns stronger.

6. again its a plot device, not POWER. its like hmm, ur a billion times more powerful than me but i know JUST the right magical word to say to kill you instantaneously. so i win.

2. So this debate again? I guess the "Shadows" in Kingdom Hearts are uber fast now? Being sumthin does not make you as fast as sumthin, Volgin has the power of lightning, he is not lightning speed, and yes, a vid would be nice.

3. Who has no feats. Zeus literally rules over at least the planet with an iron fist, once again if mythology is taken into account it is the universe.

4. No, titles are not feats. And what the hell says he can destroy the planet? And apparently, as Debel said, it was a mortal, physical avatar, in other words, NOT AS STRONG.

5. ...No it doesn't. 😐 The Titans are 1,000 foot tall creatures, Atlas has feats that put him on friggin Superman level in physical might almost, and yet Dante's guns are stronger? 😬 The Blade of Olympus in one blow defeated ALL the Titans.

6. It's within his powerset. Inuyasha's power to insta send you to hell is cheap as shit, yet you don't complain about that.

lol, Leon cna you please seriously get some debating skills, ive looked through this thread and you debate with Jaxx similiar to the way you tried with me, you have a handfull of baseless nonsense and dont seem to even have a singel clue on the unvierse your claiming things against, whats worse you add nothing much to the community apart from flaming half the time.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
1. physically he is much weaker

2. dante has blocked enemeis made of pure lightening and travelling at its speed, as well as enemies made of shadows and travelling at the speed of light, add time manipulation to that and NO, kratos isnt faster

3. he hasnt fought more powerful entities than the despair embodied

4. he isnt durable enough to take attacks from the dispair embodied. greek gods strong as they are, seem to think the world of sparta, the scale isnt the same.

5. weapons, youll have to argue against dante. but he IS the LEAST skilled in the uses compared to any1 else here

6. time manipulation powers resulting in time travel are a walking plot device that can destroy even cosmic beings.

1. Wait, wait ,wait, wait, wait. this has to be joke. i cant believe you just said that.

2.yes, kratos is much faster, because somebody who can block lightning is pretty fast. trust me.

3. agian, im pretty sure this is a joke. if you had a list of all the things kratos has killed in his life, it wouldnt even fit in this thread. half the monsters he has killed are stronger than the dislair embodied.

4. aint durable enough?? he got threw like a mile into 3 rooftops , and got up like it was nothing.

5. since kratos was a kid he was taught to fight, and remember, he is a spartan, and spartans do know how to fight.

6. cheap? ehh, they are, but he definintely wouldnt need them to kill dante or cloud.