Originally posted by BUSTER1
I thought this was Bane with Venom, in which case he destroys Kingpin
The venom raises his physical attributes to superhuman levels but, not enough to stomp Kingpin.
It may give him a physical edge but, his rational is also lowered when he pumps more venom. Not to mention, too much and it will kill him.
Kingpin is a superb fighter. Peak human strength. Able to lift 650 lbs, leave imprints of his fists in concrete walls, crush a mans' skull with is bare hands and break Spider-mans web shooters without effort. And he is deceptively quick and agile.
They're virtually on par with one another. Where's the overwhelming advantage that Bane has that makes you think Kingpin gets crushed?
Originally posted by geshien
The venom raises his physical attributes to superhuman levels but, not enough to stomp Kingpin.It may give him a physical edge but, his rational is also lowered when he pumps more venom. Not to mention, too much and it will kill him.
Kingpin is a superb fighter. Peak human strength. Able to lift 650 lbs, leave imprints of his fists in concrete walls, crush a mans' skull with is bare hands and break Spider-mans web shooters without effort. And he is deceptively quick and agile.
They're virtually on par with one another. Where's the overwhelming advantage that Bane has that makes you think Kingpin gets crushed?
Both are superb fighters, on par in skill and combat speed. But Bane with venom has super strength (about 2 ton level), stamina and durability, sufficient to shrug of bullets. When 2 people of equal skill lock horns and 1 of them is over 4 times stronger than the other and far more durable, he'll destroy the other 1.
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Bane with Venom was able to defeat Batman in combat. I'd love to see Kingpin do that.
Bane without Venom is probably roughly on par with Kingpin, but honestly, Venom gives him an incredible, undeniable boost of power.
Kingpin is good. He IS agile, for a man of his weight- when you weigh as much as he does, there's a very, very fine limit to how fast and agile you can be, even if he is pure muscle. Bane, while bulky, doesn't have the same issue; Venom will enable him to overcome Fisk in combat. This isn't quite a stomp, but Bane has this.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Bane with Venom was able to defeat Batman in combat. I'd love to see Kingpin do that.Bane without Venom is probably roughly on par with Kingpin, but honestly, Venom gives him an incredible, undeniable boost of power.
Kingpin is good. He IS agile, for a man of his weight- when you weigh as much as he does, there's a very, very fine limit to how fast and agile you can be, even if he is pure muscle. Bane, while bulky, doesn't have the same issue; Venom will enable him to overcome Fisk in combat. This isn't quite a stomp, but Bane has this.
But yet, he fights Spider-Man, I would like to see Bane or Batman do that!!! 😛
Owned!!!
Originally posted by BUSTER1
Look at you own post-you said yourself that Kingpin can only lift upt to 650pounds
Well I guess you caught me red handed 🙄 and I also said that I just looked up the respect thread.
Moreover, the fact that he is more powerful than I evaluated just puts more weight to my question; how is Bane the clear victor?
If Fisk can bend steal and push right through walls (just pushing), I think it's safe to assume he's benching more than 650.
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
But yet, he fights Spider-Man, I would like to see Bane or Batman do that!!! 😛Owned!!!
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Well, modern Fisk is regularly owned by Spider-Man after possibly giving him a few blows. 'Classic' KP often managed to fight Spider-Man evenly, which I might say, is a bunch of bullcrap. If KP can do it, Batman can do it (not modern Spidey, though. Lolz)
Situation reminds me a bit of the whole Batman vs. Joker situation. Apparently, in his first incarnations, the Joker regularly fought evenly with Batman; nowadays, Batman usually beats him up after the Joker lands a few blows.
And random sayings are over, I'd say that 'classic' KP may have a chance in beating Bane. Modern (and more logical) KP doesn't.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
XDWell, modern Fisk is regularly owned by Spider-Man after possibly giving him a few blows. 'Classic' KP often managed to fight Spider-Man evenly, which I might say, is a bunch of bullcrap. If KP can do it, Batman can do it (not modern Spidey, though. Lolz)
Situation reminds me a bit of the whole Batman vs. Joker situation. Apparently, in his first incarnations, the Joker regularly fought evenly with Batman; nowadays, Batman usually beats him up after the Joker lands a few blows.
And random sayings are over, I'd say that 'classic' KP may have a chance in beating Bane. Modern (and more logical) KP doesn't.
Too bad we arent talking about current KP here..... 😄
Originally posted by Master CrimzonKingpin beat Captain America and Red Skull in fair fights so i think he would be able to beat batman.
Bane with Venom was able to defeat Batman in combat. I'd love to see Kingpin do that.Bane without Venom is probably roughly on par with Kingpin, but honestly, Venom gives him an incredible, undeniable boost of power.
Kingpin is good. He IS agile, for a man of his weight- when you weigh as much as he does, there's a very, very fine limit to how fast and agile you can be, even if he is pure muscle. Bane, while bulky, doesn't have the same issue; Venom will enable him to overcome Fisk in combat. This isn't quite a stomp, but Bane has this.
Originally posted by godking
Kingpin beat Captain America and Red Skull in fair fights so i think he would be able to beat batman.
Only that that was 'classic' (read: Ridiculously overpowered) Kingpin. Batman is vastly more technically skilled than both the Captain and Red Skull; he also has at least equal speed and strength feats, being a peak human combatant. Kingpin, for all of his relative agility, should not be able to be as fast as someone who is a lot less heavy, and also focuses on speed and stealth.
Batman should, by all rights, beat Kingpin in a fair fight.
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Only that that was 'classic' (read: Ridiculously overpowered) Kingpin. Batman is vastly more technically skilled than both the Captain and Red Skull; he also has at least equal speed and strength cfeats, being a peak human combatant. Kingpin, for all of his relative agility, should not be able to be as fast as someone who is a lot less heavy, and also focuses on speed and stealth.Batman should, by all rights, beat Kingpin in a fair fight.
You cant change the fact that this is the classic version and his feats, so deal with it.