Bane w. venom vs Classic Kingpin

DP.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon

Kingpin would die to Batman at least 7/10 times.

Originally posted by Jugglenaut

Daredevil is a bullet timer, Batman isn't.

So Batman's gotten training from Stick? I don't think so.

Originally posted by Jugglenaut
Does Batman swat bullets away using a club? I'll take that as a no.
Daredevil is a bullet timer, Batman isn't.

Daredevil dodged three lightning-fast beams from a point blank ranged, using pure acrobatics?

Did Daredevil speed blitz a small army of armed gangsters and own them with his bare hands while avoiding all bullets?

I don't think so.

Originally posted by Jugglenaut
So Batman's gotten training from Stick? I don't think so.

Daredevil got training from Lady Shiva and has complete mastery of all forms of martial arts known to mankind, and is a master of lethal blows and defenses known almost exclusively to him?

I don't think so.

Occultdestroyer, I said 'at least'. Means it could be higher. 😛

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Daredevil dodged three lightning-fast beams from a point blank ranged, using pure acrobatics?

Did Daredevil speed blitz a small army of armed gangsters and own them with his bare hands while avoiding all bullets?

I don't think so.

Daredevil got training from Lady Shiva and has complete mastery of all forms of martial arts known to mankind, and is a master of lethal blows and defenses known almost exclusively to him?

I don't think so.

Occultdestroyer, I said 'at least'. Means it could be higher. 😛

So Shiva's a better martial artist than Stick? 😱

Originally posted by Jugglenaut
Dodging lasers? Matt's done that.
Dodging thrown objects from someone who can make a fingernail go through glass and kill someone?

So Shiva's a better martial artist than Stick? 😱

Dodging lasters? At point blank range, while the enemy is a feet in front of him? Oh, and relatively wide lasers, too? (Mr. Freeze's Ice Beams)

Avoid sniper fire based on pure instincts and clever usage of stealth?

And how is Stick superior to Shiva, the world's greatest assassin (Deathstroke is a slight competitor, though)? Besides, it's not like that's the full extent of Batman's training. He dedicated his entire life to physical conditioning and training, to the point that he is a master of 137 fighting disciplines. That's more than Matt Murdock can possibly claim.

Batman > Daredevil, really.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Occultdestroyer, I said 'at least'. Means it could be higher. 😛

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
😬
I was laughing at Jugglenaut's post

Yeah, but I had to put a response.

Bane w/ Venom

Originally posted by Master Crimzon

And how is Stick superior to Shiva, the world's greatest assassin (Deathstroke is a slight competitor, though)?

Originally posted by Jugglenaut
So you think Shiva could sneak up on a Wolverine who's had his senses enhanced by 100x?
🙄
And if you really want to go by martial arts skills, coming back to life on your own free will > Leopard Blow.

Batman - Daredevil.

Bane w/ venom/performance enhancers - Kingpin. A.K.A. "Burger Chops"

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Did Daredevil speed blitz a small army of armed gangsters and own them with his bare hands while avoiding all bullets?

But they were Yakuza, not stereotype American gangsters.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Only that that was 'classic' (read: Ridiculously overpowered) Kingpin. Batman is vastly more technically skilled than both the Captain and Red Skull; he also has at least equal speed and strength feats, being a peak human combatant. Kingpin, for all of his relative agility, should not be able to be as fast as someone who is a lot less heavy, and also focuses on speed and stealth.

Batman should, by all rights, beat Kingpin in a fair fight.

I dont know about being superior to Red Skull in tech, The skull has made some pretty nasty battle suits before...he was tearing down buildings and beat Cap within an inch of his life with it.

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
Yes.

But they were Yakuza, not stereotype American gangsters.

😖hifty:

Bah, same thing. Lolz.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
😖hifty:

Bah, same thing. Lolz.

Same with Ninja too, unless it's the TMNT.

Either way, Bane would break KP if he's abusing venom again.

CLASSIC Kingpin win

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
CLASSIC Kingpin win

Of course he does, 10/10

Unless Bane's on venom. Then it's probably stalemate.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Well, Heap already pwned your 'DD and America are as skilled as Batman!'.

And Captain America is the absolute pinnacle of human perfection, just like Batman. He operates on purely human levels- he's not a metahuman. Therefore, they are physically on par.

Captain America is immune to most poisons known to man and physically nearly unable to get tired.

Bruce could train for a thousand years and Captain America would still be beyond him physically.

Originally posted by godking
Wrong Bruce is the pinacle of human perfection. Captain america is clearly beyond.

Captain America is immune to most poisons known to man and physically nearly unable to get tired.

Bruce could train for a thousand years and Captain America would still be beyond him physically.

Captain America's metabolism is unnatural, but Batman is just as fast, durable, and strong. If you think otherwise, prove it.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Captain America's metabolism is unnatural, but Batman is just as fast, durable, and strong. If you think otherwise, prove it.

Batman is peak human. Capt. America is superhuman.