Originally posted by quanchi112they took him through Rao
Lobo isnt Red Hulk. He only took darkseid off the planet after his was weakened by his own omega beams thanks to WW.WW is nowhere near the brute that Red Hulk is.
When did they take Superboy Prime off the planet?
brute strength has nothing to do with being able to BFR someone, if superman hits him and the field dsintergrates red hulk will go flying
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not off the planet.
Rulk weighs what 900 pounds? Maybe a ton at most. Trinity has had Superman casually toss a 30 ton robot into orbit. Rulk's strength has nothing to do with his ability to stick to the ground, he's not Spider-man
One punch from Superman is capable of sending him into orbit. Supergirl has punched Kryptonians into orbit.
Superman can punch people across solar systems, why won't that work on Rulk? Wonder woman has vastly more resistance to knockback due to having flight, where as Rulk has none.
Also of course Rulk can't hit him. He's too fast.
Originally posted by AllanklesSupes only could bfr Darkseid after the omega effect shot right back into his face. He'd need to hurt Rulk bad to be able to take him off the planet imo. Aint happenin.
Strength has nothing to do with getting BFR'd. Lobo is an animal too, he got taken off planet by a single uppercut from Supes, not because he isn't strong but because his speed is inferior to Supes and also because his weight is negligible. Rulk doesn't have the speed to match either, he could get tossed into the atmosphere and then pinballed off planet. Hell DCAU Superman (who is much weaker than his comic version) was doing it to an amped Darkseid. It's an option against Rulk.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes only could bfr Darkseid after the omega effect shot right back into his face. He'd need to hurt Rulk bad to be able to take him off the planet imo. Aint happenin.
That's not even logical, you don't have to hurt your opponent to BFR them. And as I said even a weaker Superman in the DCAU was able to pinball an amped Darkseid in the air, Darkseid wasn't hurt bad or anything, he just got outdone by Superman's greater speed, he couldn't react to it. Superman could easily pinball Rulk who is a lot slower and doesn't have flight capabilities, he doesn't even have to soften Rulk up for this.
Originally posted by AllanklesIs dcau a cartoon? Are you really using a cartoon as proof in a comic book debate?
That's not even logical, you don't have to hurt your opponent to BFR them. And as I said even a weaker Superman in the DCAU was able to pinball an amped Darkseid in the air, Darkseid wasn't hurt bad or anything, he just got outdone by Superman's greater speed, he couldn't react to it. Superman could easily pinball Rulk who is a lot slower and doesn't have flight capabilities, he doesn't even have to soften Rulk up for this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Is dcau a cartoon? Are you really using a cartoon as proof in a comic book debate?
It's perfectly valid especially because Superman's powers were consistent with the comics but to a lesser magnitude. If the weakest Superman since Bryne's reboot could do that, why not a fully powered comic book Superman? Why not? He's even faster and stronger than his DCAU version.
Originally posted by AllanklesWe dont use dcau as proof on this or any other board I am aware of. Sorry. We have an instance already of Supes bfring him off the planet. it just so happened he needed him injured to pull it off.
It's perfectly valid especially because Superman's powers were consistent with the comics but to a lesser magnitude. If the weakest Superman since Bryne's reboot could do that, why not a fully powered comic book Superman? Why not? He's even faster and stronger than his DCAU version.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok and?
X Ray vision, Telescopic vision plus Heat vision = Rulk's internal organs getting screwed.
X Ray vision while speedblitzing (like against Equus or the Elites or Subject-17 or any number of opponents he's analyzed = Superman getting the full measure of Rulk's abilities as he finds a way to break him down and end the fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We dont use dcau as proof on this or any other board I am aware of. Sorry. We have an instance already of Supes bfring him off the planet. it just so happened he needed him injured to pull it off.
Unfortunately for you there's no such rule. Theoretically nothing's keeping Rulk on planet if Superman chooses to toss him. Unless Superman makes an error (and that's a big if, Rulk is simply slower), Rulk is getting BFR'd.
You're trying to present your narrowed illogical opinion as fact. There's no rule (because it doesn't make logical sense) that states BFR= hurting opponent + tossing. One does not have to follow the other for a BFR to take place.
You're using an instance inconsistent with the basic physics involved with the process as a basis for your stance.
Once again you show an inability to think outside the narrowed parameters of comic book plots, which essentially makes you a poor debater and a poor analyst of a character's abilities.
Originally posted by AllanklesYes,common sense is keeping him on the planet. Supes doesnt easily bfr any powerful brick that comes his way. The only reason he bfr'd Seid in superman/batman is because he was injured by his own omega beams.
Unfortunately for you there's no such rule. Theoretically nothing's keeping Rulk on planet if Superman chooses to toss him. Unless Superman makes an error (and that's a big if, Rulk is simply slower), Rulk is getting BFR'd.You're trying to present your narrowed illogical opinion as fact. There's no rule (because it doesn't make logical sense) that states BFR= hurting opponent + tossing. One does not have to follow the other for a BFR to take place.
You're using an instance inconsistent with the basic physics involved with the process as a basis for your stance.
Once again you show an inability to think outside the narrowed parameters of comic book plots, which essentially makes you a poor debater and a poor analyst of a character's abilities.
Show me Supes doing it to a comparable character to Rulk.
Your forcing your scenario my throat like its factual. It isnt. You havent supported it within comics yet anyways. So,in your mind I know it happens,but not on kmc or any other board imo.
Originally posted by AllanklesWhen has anyone hurt Rulk's special organs?
X Ray vision, Telescopic vision plus Heat vision = Rulk's internal organs getting screwed.X Ray vision while speedblitzing (like against Equus or the Elites or Subject-17 or any number of opponents he's analyzed = Superman getting the full measure of Rulk's abilities as he finds a way to break him down and end the fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112a character being weak has nothing to do wit hthem being able to be taken off the planet.
Yes,common sense is keeping him on the planet. Supes doesnt easily bfr any powerful brick that comes his way. The only reason he bfr'd Seid in superman/batman is because he was injured by his own omega beams.Show me Supes doing it to a comparable character to Rulk.
Your forcing your scenario my throat like its factual. It isnt. You havent supported it within comics yet anyways. So,in your mind I know it happens,but not on kmc or any other board imo.
does a tornado have a harder time moving a guy who works out and a guy who doesnt? no being stronger doesnt make you harder to move if you have the strength to move it.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678When you are weaker you cant resist it as much. Common sense or so I thought.
a character being weak has nothing to do wit hthem being able to be taken off the planet.does a tornado have a harder time moving a guy who works out and a guy who doesnt? no being stronger doesnt make you harder to move if you have the strength to move it.