Trinity Superman vs. Red Hulk

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman is just a superhero. He isnt even the top tier in the dcu in my opinion. He has never proven to be superior against Orion or Black Adam. So you are overrating him. Rulk did beat a thunder god into the ground. Rulk will beat Superman into the ground. Its not even close. Rulk eats top tiers. Who has Superman ever oneshotted off the planet that is comparable to Rulk?

I'll play your game. How would Rulk prevent being turned into a shiny Red spaceborn torpedo?

Originally posted by Avlon
I'll play your game. How would Rulk prevent being turned into a shiny Red spaceborn torpedo?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who has done this to Rulk?

You were called out for using this very no limits fallacy earlier in this thread... Do you think you are fooling anyone?

Originally posted by quanchi112
This tactic has never been used against Rulk so how do you know it will just take speed and strength to easily take him out?

Common sense.

Originally posted by snyper1982
You were called out for using this very no limits fallacy earlier in this thread... Do you think you are fooling anyone?

Originally posted by snyper1982
Common sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have my opinion and you have yours. I disagree. If you read Rulk you would know it isnt easy to defeat this guy. We should find it here very soon what it takes to beat him.

No, you were straight up using a no limits fallacy. It wasn't an opinion. You are entitled your opinion, even if it is wrong, and not based on logic.

Red Hulk is a interesting character, a case of serious PIS/CIS but regardless his power still remains. I suppose he should be considered roughly around skyfather to perhaps even lower abstract if he continues on the road he is. I don't respect his character but I can't ignore his feats either...even if they contradict logic and reason on every level. Rulk takes it.

Originally posted by snyper1982
No, you were straight up using a no limits fallacy. It wasn't an opinion. You are entitled your opinion, even if it is wrong, and not based on logic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman is just a superhero. He isnt even the top tier in the dcu in my opinion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has never proven to be superior against Orion or Black Adam. So you are overrating him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rulk did beat a thunder god into the ground. Rulk will beat Superman into the ground. Its not even close. Rulk eats top tiers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who has Superman ever oneshotted off the planet that is comparable to Rulk?

In closing, saying something is your opinion is fine but continuing to debate people based on your opinion when others are making points using feats is not fine. Rulk hasn't been up against anyone using their super speed. But since Rulk hasn't shown reactions better than any previous Hulk we assume has reactions similar to previous Hulks until shown otherwise. The on panel fact that Trin Supes has used speed on people with comparable abilities as he has shows that Trin Supes has that capability.

But.....

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman is just a superhero. He isnt even the top tier in the dcu in my opinion.

Quan, one more thing. Thanks. biscuits

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rulk takes it. I am not the only one. You continue to argue powerset vs powerset which isnt the way I argue at all.

I'm not the only one who thinks Superman takes it either... So what does that mean? I am arguing character vs character. I include their powerset, because well, how else do we debate who is more powerful?

Originally posted by Badabing
You're opinion is just that....opinion. People aren't here to debate what you think and try to change your mind.

This is Trinity Supes. So were using feats from that story arc. Ultraman and Superwoman have gone h2h with Supes in the past and done well. In Trinity, Superman speed blitzed and slapped around two characters with similar power sets as he has. So you are underrating him. But this doesn't matter since you're talking about your opinion. In your mind the fact that Rulk hasn't fought a person using speed means it isn't a viable option.......in your opinion.

Bad comparison. Had Thor been using his powers to the fullest you may have a valid point. But as it stands your comparison is a misnomer. Superman has shown to be able to use speed, precision and brute force on opponents who were shown to be his peers from past meetings.

Since you want to use non Trinity Superman, Lobo is the best example. But in your mind Lobo doesn't compare to Rulk so it's obvious that you'll just say "Nuh uh, Rulk>>>>Lobo imo." In Trinity Konvikt was well on his way to a bfr but that little imp shot a power beam at Trin Supes. So the Supes feat vs Ultraman and Superwoman is his best feat. It shows what Supes going all out can do. But again, we get back to your Rulk>>>Thor comparison which isn't very relevant because in your opinion.......

In closing, saying something is your opinion is fine but continuing to debate people based on your opinion when others are making points using feats is not fine. Rulk hasn't been up against anyone using their super speed. But since Rulk hasn't shown reactions better than any previous Hulk we assume has reactions similar to previous Hulks until shown otherwise. The on panel fact that Trin Supes has used speed on people with comparable abilities as he has shows that Trin Supes has that capability.

But.....
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Quan, one more thing. Thanks. biscuits

The point is Thor usually swings his warhammer at his opponents. It usually does massive amounts of damage. This wasnt the case against Rulk. I used the Thor example because he basically called Superman a god. He isnt but Thor is. They do both have completely different powersets. Most would agree that Thor is more powerful than Superman.

I dont agree that we we use Hulk reactions to speed. Its all speculation until we see how Rulk would handle speed on panel. Rulk as shown on panel is well above Hulk as of yet. That may change if Hulk gets pissed enough.

Your welcome.

Originally posted by snyper1982
I'm not the only one who thinks Superman takes it either... So what does that mean? I am arguing character vs character. I include their powerset, because well, how else do we debate who is more powerful?

Originally posted by quanchi112
They should be here to change my opinion. Its all about me. 😉

Your welcome.

Originally posted by Badabing
dur 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I picked up something from aster before he left.

😛

Back to the thread. I declare Trin Supes teh winner!!!!11

superdur

What does everyone else think?

Originally posted by Badabing
We don't want to hear about your personal life....😘

😛

Back to the thread. I declare Trin Supes teh winner!!!!11

superdur

What does everyone else think?

My personal life is great.

Its my opinion that you are wrong. My opinion=fact,just so you know.

I wish I knew how to send you viruses on msn then youd really feel the power of Quan the merciless. 😛

"Rulk.
Pff."
Tri-Supes 10/10

Originally posted by quanchi112
They should be here to change my opinion. Its all about me. 😉
Yes,I never discounted those feats. But I simply also stated that those fights were over very quickly and both of those characters seem to lack Rulk's durability. The guy basically laughed off thor's hammer.

The point is Thor usually swings his warhammer at his opponents. It usually does massive amounts of damage. This wasnt the case against Rulk. I used the Thor example because he basically called Superman a god. He isnt but Thor is. They do both have completely different powersets. Most would agree that Thor is more powerful than Superman.

I dont agree that we we use Hulk reactions to speed. Its all speculation until we see how Rulk would handle speed on panel. Rulk as shown on panel is well above Hulk as of yet. That may change if Hulk gets pissed enough.

Your welcome.

I understand that. But really I havent seen Superman dominate anyone close to Rulk level in a prolonged fight. We disagree.

It wouldn't be a prolonged fight though. It would be over in seconds. And that is pushing it. I have never called into question rulks durability, just his lack of speed. As of yet he hasn't shown he has super speed or reaction times, so we have to assume he doesn't posses them. If he shows that he does, I am more than willing to give reassess this fight.

Originally posted by snyper1982
It wouldn't be a prolonged fight though. It would be over in seconds. And that is pushing it. I have never called into question rulks durability, just his lack of speed. As of yet he hasn't shown he has super speed or reaction times, so we have to assume he doesn't posses them. If he shows that he does, I am more than willing to give reassess this fight.

Taking into account Superman's obvious speed advantage I still dont think its enough to get him the win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I believe it would be. I believe Rulk wouldnt go very far when Superman hit him. He didnt go very far when Thor's hammer struck him.

Taking into account Superman's obvious speed advantage I still dont think its enough to get him the win.

Superman can still chuck him into space. Why does he have to hit him?

Originally posted by snyper1982
Superman can still chuck him into space. Why does he have to hit him?