Trinity Superman vs. Red Hulk

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Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Are you saying that Trinity Superman is a parallel universe Superman? Is he not the same Superman that fought Doomsday, or Atlas? Please clarify.
Right now Trinity isn't connected to the DCU as part of FC. It's happening at a different time and is its own story. But it appears that it's in the mainstream DCU.

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Originally posted by Avlon
Ok, and Konvikt seems to have some sort of enhanced speed.

Storyline is not over yet...this may be an acceptable instance though.

Kryptonian with superspeed.

The speed of ares....

And he has superspeed...

Who also has superspeed.

...and DD has superspeed.

Who also has superspeed and kryptonian biology.

Supes has knocked out his fair share of top tiers. Rulk can still be one shotted to space. 6 or 7 out of 8 there were poor examples. Atlas the jury is still out on.

Konvikt doesnt have superspeed. He is just a brick.

Atlas isnt over yet. So,your right we dont know. Even if he does,he didnt use any to connect with Superman. Thats the point.

Ill give you Zod.

WW was just battling him. There wasnt any superspeed. Just because a character has superspeed that doesnt mean they are always using it.

Doomsday doesnt have superspeed. He didnt exhibit any on hunter and prey. None.

Henshaw wasnt exhibiting any superspeed.

Is bfr the only way you can conceivably give Supes the win here?

I dont think he could easily bfr someone of this magnitude. Lets face it,he couldnt do it to Konvikt,so why could he do it to Rulk?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Supes wasnt holding back on WW in issue 219. he didnt destroy even a city and he was sunamped. so,really I dont even get what you are saying.

This wasn't addressed to you. And I wasn't talking about collateral damage I was talking about the nature of the fight. Supes, WW and co. were worried about the collateral damage, so it affected the manner with which they engaged Konvikt. Both were trying to occupy Konvikt's time while civilians were being rescued and then of course they weren't prepared to go all out given that the city was a stake.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Within the character's personality. Thanks.

Supes tends to brawl with brawlers. 😬

trinity superman doesnt tend to brawl. thanks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Konvikt doesnt have superspeed. He is just a brick.

Proof? He seemed pretty fast to me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Atlas isnt over yet. So,your right we dont know. Even if he does,he didnt use any to connect with Superman. Thats the point.

And fast people get tagged all the time in comics. Does that mean we ignore their speed? LOL. At this point..Atlas would beat the hell ou of Hulk too.

Storyline isn't over yet..so we can keep that one on the backburner.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ill give you Zod.

You have no choice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
WW was just battling him. There wasnt any superspeed. Just because a character has superspeed that doesnt mean they are always using it.

Wrong. They fought all the way to the sun at multiples of light...and either way..WW has superspeed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Doomsday doesnt have superspeed. He didnt exhibit any on hunter and prey. None.

LOL @ this. Yea..that's why he's been mentioned multiple times by multiple characters... LOL that if something is not used (theoretically) in one storyline..the character suddenly doesnt have the power..lol

Originally posted by quanchi112
Henshaw wasnt exhibiting any superspeed.

He's still kryptonian and has enhanced speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is bfr the only way you can conceivably give Supes the win here?

Probably not. Haven't thought of it...it's the easiest way and unavoidable for Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I dont think he could easily bfr someone of this magnitude. Lets face it,he couldnt do it to Konvikt,so why could he do it to Rulk?

In a PIS filled storyline maybe. On threads, it's perfectly viable and easily accomplished.

konvikt is slow as fvck.

Originally posted by Allankles
This wasn't addressed to you. And I wasn't talking about collateral damage I was talking about the nature of the fight. Supes, WW and co. were worried about the collateral damage, so it affected the manner with which they engaged Konvikt. Both were trying to occupy Konvikt's time while civilians were being rescued and then of course they weren't prepared to go all out given that the city was a stake.
I understand this,but this is actually a knock against Konvikt. Anywho,Rulk still is far too impressive to lose here. Some of these threads are premature. We havent even seen Rulk go down here,so I dont see how anyone would say oh yeah Supes could do it.

Originally posted by Avlon
Proof? He seemed pretty fast to me.

And fast people get tagged all the time in comics. Does that mean we ignore their speed? LOL. At this point..Atlas would beat the hell ou of Hulk too.

Storyline isn't over yet..so we can keep that one on the backburner.

You have no choice.

Wrong. They fought all the way to the sun at multiples of light...and either way..WW has superspeed.

LOL @ this. Yea..that's why he's been mentioned multiple times by multiple characters... LOL that if something is not used (theoretically) in one storyline..the character suddenly doesnt have the power..lol

He's still kryptonian and has enhanced speed.

Probably not. Haven't thought of it...it's the easiest way and unavoidable for Hulk.

In a PIS filled storyline maybe. On threads, it's perfectly viable and easily accomplished.

Just because he hit Superman that doesnt make him fast. What actual scans do you have that actually shows off his speed?

No,Atlas wouldnt. Just because he beats the hell out of Superman,that doesnt mean he would beat the hell out of Hulk.

I agreed,so why get cocky about it?

That doesnt mean that WW used it. Which scan of the fight has them fighting at superspeed?

So,since Superman uses superspeed does that mean he uses it in every fight? Are you serious?

You keep saying the have superspeed or enhanced speed. That doesnt mean they used it.

It isnt unavoidable for the Rulk. Supes didnt try this on Konvikt. If it were that easy,he would have done it. They also wanted to avoid the citizens.

If he cant do it easily in a storyline against a brick,why can he do it against a more powerful brick.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because he hit Superman that doesnt make him fast. What actual scans do you have that actually shows off his speed?

No,Atlas wouldnt. Just because he beats the hell out of Superman,that doesnt mean he would beat the hell out of Hulk.

I agreed,so why get cocky about it?

That doesnt mean that WW used it. Which scan of the fight has them fighting at superspeed?

So,since Superman uses superspeed does that mean he uses it in every fight? Are you serious?

You keep saying the have superspeed or enhanced speed. That doesnt mean they used it.

It isnt unavoidable for the Rulk. Supes didnt try this on Konvikt. If it were that easy,he would have done it. They also wanted to avoid the citizens.

If he cant do it easily in a storyline against a brick,why can he do it against a more powerful brick.

Read this again...and consider this is also a version of Supes who was already using his abilities impressively.

Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because he hit Superman that doesnt make him fast. What actual scans do you have that actually shows off his speed?

No,Atlas wouldnt. Just because he beats the hell out of Superman,that doesnt mean he would beat the hell out of Hulk.

I agreed,so why get cocky about it?

That doesnt mean that WW used it. Which scan of the fight has them fighting at superspeed?

So,since Superman uses superspeed does that mean he uses it in every fight? Are you serious?

You keep saying the have superspeed or enhanced speed. That doesnt mean they used it.

It isnt unavoidable for the Rulk. Supes didnt try this on Konvikt. If it were that easy,he would have done it. They also wanted to avoid the citizens.

If he cant do it easily in a storyline against a brick,why can he do it against a more powerful brick.

I know I said I was done, but you are just being intentionally dense here, and I have to say something. Superman has many, many, many times shown his speed in battle, yet you try to pretend like because of PIS in SOME of his storys, he doesn't have the ability to use it. LOL. You keep talking about story lines here. We are not debating stories. We are debating a fight based on each characters powers. What part about that do you not comprehend. Just because Superman doesn't BFR every opponent, doesn't mean it isn't a viable option ON THIS BOARD...

You are flat out trolling here. You ignore the rules and post crap like you have been again, and I am reporting you for it.

Originally posted by Avlon
Read this again...and consider this is also a version of Supes who was already using his abilities impressively.

I will bold the most important part of it. This right here basically means that Trinity Superman, is a non issue in this thread, as that is how superman is assumed to be on these boards all the time, unless otherwise stated. There are just to many instances of him using certain powers in one fight, then not in another, to say definitively that it is in character for him to not use a speedblitz or superspeed in a fight.

Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Hopefuly that will put an end to his argument that superman won't use his speed.

Originally posted by snyper1982
I know I said I was done, but you are just being intentionally dense here, and I have to say something. Superman has many, many, many times shown his speed in battle, yet you try to pretend like because of PIS in SOME of his storys, he doesn't have the ability to use it. LOL. You keep talking about story lines here. We are not debating stories. We are debating a fight based on each characters powers. What part about that do you not comprehend. Just because Superman doesn't BFR every opponent, doesn't mean it isn't a viable option ON THIS BOARD...

You are flat out trolling here. You ignore the rules and post crap like you have been again, and I am reporting you for it.

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Avlon your sock pwnted Quan herbeyes

Originally posted by iceman24567
Avlon your sock pwnted Quan herbeyes

I'm no ones sock... Google this user name, I have accounts all over the interwebs.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I understand this,but this is actually a knock against Konvikt. Anywho,Rulk still is far too impressive to lose here. Some of these threads are premature. We havent even seen Rulk go down here,so I dont see how anyone would say oh yeah Supes could do it.

Yeah? Because he hasn't shown anything that proves he wouldn't get his ass handed to him by Superman in non pis/cis curcumstances. His durability against blunt point trauma seems impressive - I'll give him that - but in a scenario where Thor only got in a couple of strikes and then fought like a rookie with no skills; I can't to give Rulk much credit for beating a guy who was written like a punching bag.

Originally posted by snyper1982
I'm no ones sock... Google this user name, I have accounts all over the interwebs.
It was a joke 😬

Trinity Superman owns Rulk.

Originally posted by snyper1982
I know I said I was done, but you are just being intentionally dense here, and I have to say something. Superman has many, many, many times shown his speed in battle, yet you try to pretend like because of PIS in SOME of his storys, he doesn't have the ability to use it. LOL. You keep talking about story lines here. We are not debating stories. We are debating a fight based on each characters powers. What part about that do you not comprehend. Just because Superman doesn't BFR every opponent, doesn't mean it isn't a viable option ON THIS BOARD...

You are flat out trolling here. You ignore the rules and post crap like you have been again, and I am reporting you for it.

I never said he didnt use his speed. I simply said all the instances in the fights I referred to that he didnt use speed in all of those encounters. Supes can use his speed. Im not taking away his ability. We debate whats in character as well. I understand all this but saying he easily bfr's some of Rulk's caliber without offering up a comparable brick that he accomplished this on is bad debating imo.

Sure,Supes can speedbltix him but he wont escape Rulk forever.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Avlon your sock pwnted Quan herbeyes
😂 It wouldnt be the first time someone sent a sock after me.

Originally posted by Allankles
Yeah? Because he hasn't shown anything that proves he wouldn't get his ass handed to him by Superman in non pis/cis curcumstances. His durability against blunt point trauma seems impressive - I'll give him that - but in a scenario where Thor only got in a couple of strikes and then fought like a rookie with no skills; I can't to give Rulk much credit for beating a guy who was written like a punching bag.
In the same respect how can I give Konvikt any credit when he was beating these characters with thunderclaps and rocks. You cant have it both ways. Thor fought with skills,its just Rulk crushed him. Rulk is impressive.