Snake vs. Nemesis

Of course. All he needs is a bridge.

Shit, Snake needs no bridge.

He kicks Nemesis off the edge of the street into water.

He just can.

Originally posted by StyleTime

The earlier forms of Nemesis were KOed through electrocution, grenade launchers, and being pushed off a bridge. However, to kill Nemesis, a giant, laser canon thing is required appearently.

It was'nt the Rail Cannon that killed it off, Even after that it was still moving

thats why you get that decision

Exterminate the monster.
Ignore it and evacuate.

Which form of Nemesis, and where do they fight?

I can see Snake beating the earlier forms, but the final form was practically invulnerable as I understand it, to everything but the giant rail canon.

If it's that one, give Snake freaking MG Rex and be done with it.

I wonder if a fully charged Rail Gun blast is equal to the rail cannon.

I mean the Rail Gun is very powerful It destroyed the brigde along with everything else when Fortune pawned the Seals with it. Then when she fought Raiden in the basement with the elevator; she blasted the crap out of everything. When Screaming Mantis used it blasted numerous trees out of existence.

Hmph.

Snake doesn't need it though. Why waste ammo?

in game power rating dont matter. the handcannon is NOT as powerful as fortune's railgun or raven's chaingun, neither is the chicago typewriter faster than the p-90 or volgin's chaingun or the turret of metal gear rex/ray/harrier/gunship. and again, snake in cannon has dodged bullets after thay have left the barrel. and the twin snakes IS cannon, whether we like it or not. so the cutting machine gun bullets in half feat of gray fox remains cannon. leon does not have a PRAYER against gray fox, do not be silly.

Originally posted by Kazenji
It was'nt the Rail Cannon that killed it off, Even after that it was still moving

Nemesis was shaking off all other weapons during that fight.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
in game power rating dont matter. the handcannon is NOT as powerful as fortune's railgun or raven's chaingun, neither is the chicago typewriter faster than the p-90 or volgin's chaingun or the turret of metal gear rex/ray/harrier/gunship. and again, snake in cannon has dodged bullets after thay have left the barrel. and the twin snakes IS cannon, whether we like it or not. so the cutting machine gun bullets in half feat of gray fox remains cannon. leon does not have a PRAYER against gray fox, do not be silly.

You mean like even when MGS4 used the original MGS instead of the remake in the flashbacks. Prove it's canon.

With Leon's insane reaction speed, yes he does.

^that is because every1 remembers it as the first game in the series, and it represents the LONG journey of solid snake{hence twin snakes wudnt look old enough}

it IS completely cannon, for one thing, it only really ELABORATES in what already happened in the original, ot was made by kojima, the entire voice cast is the same as the original. and there isnt much contradicting stuff, only more ELABORATE stuff. this isnt a debate, the twin snakes IS cannon, whether u like it or NOT.

and no, leon doesnt have reaction speed to dodge incmoing machine gun bullets after they have left the barrel, let alone cut them in midair. understand that leon is NUTHING compared to snake nor is any1 or anything else in res eve.

1. I wasn't aware Grey Fox had a machine gun shocklaugh
2. Twin Snakes isn't canon unless you show me Kojima directly saying that Twin Snakes replaces the original MGS. I don't give a damn that he worked on it. Shinji Mikami, the creator of Resident Evil, worked on Resident Evil Gaiden. Does that mean it's canon? No.
2. Uhhhhh yes he does. How about going through not only the Raccoon City incident without getting hurt once (Getting shot by Birkin not counting), but going through the Spain incident with barely any injuries at all (He got a cut on the face, which is equal to Snake getting slashed by Wolf.

Face it. Snake isn't as godly as you think he is.

So the PSX flashbacks in MGS4 prove the original is the canon entrance? LoL. The actual audio we hear in those flashbacks is from the Twin Snakes.

superdur

Originally posted by Solid Durandal
1. I wasn't aware Grey Fox had a machine gun shocklaugh

I can see Nemesis winning this.

^i cant

Make no mistake, Nemesis has what it takes to win the majority of Encounters... Snake can never match the physical strength of Nemesis and the only weapon thats capable of knocking him down temporarily is the Rail Gun... Which by the buy is nowhere near the power of the Cannon used to cripple/imobilise him permanently... That cannon is what some battleships are equipped with, and it gouged out a frigging huge section of the room, big enough for Jill to maneuver through comfortably..

Snake does however, posess superb agility, and can avoid Nemesis for quite some time... I'd suggest using that nimble abilioty to retreat.

^fortunes rail gun dishes out over 10 megajoules of energy, which is equivalent to a large smooth bore battleship/destroyer cannon. nemesis does not have what it takes to win even a minority of encounters.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^fortunes rail gun dishes out over 10 megajoules of energy, which is equivalent to a large smooth bore battleship/destroyer cannon. nemesis does not have what it takes to win even a minority of encounters.

Do you remember the exact quote? No, I'll tell you, the quote your reffering to is that, The 20mm Smooth Bore Gun (A much smaller version of the weapon I'm describing, is 20 megajoules, Fortunes Railgun is 10 megajoules at full charge.

Cruiser Rail Cannons can be as high as 150mm, and I'd say the Rail Cannon from RE3 was at least 50mm given it's size and the sheer amount of energy the generators required to power it... That puts it in the 50 megajoule range, thats like coastal bombardment/anti ship level firepower...

Congratulations leonheartmm, you hereby failed at disproving my argument.

you are forgetting projectile energy. remember that he larger cannon rely on special explosive shells to do the destruction and not impact. also, where are you getting the extimate for the power equivalence of the railgun in resident evil? in reality rail guns dont need to CHARGE. capacitors and high power electric supplies work in fractions of a second.