Originally posted by Kotor3Don't even bother trying to correct him in that issue. Exodus is well meaning, but quite frankly, he's missing some grey matter.
Revan is a him.
And I think Revan would lose in the saber fight. Something about the purported supreme awesomeness of the PT Jedi and Qui-Gon being one of the tops...
With a battle involving the Force, I see Revan winning though.
Originally posted by truejedi
i would pick Qui-Gonn. we just don't have enough detail on HOW Revan defeats his opponents. Its all decided by gameplay. he could possibly have relied largely on explosives or blasters, which would do him little good against a jedi of Qui Gonn's caliber.
I agree BUT do you honestly think that if someone writes a book that they are going to have Revan do just that?
Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182It's eniterely possible. Some author may decide that there's too much saber and Force stuff, and they decide to show Revan as an accomplished sharpshooter and pyrotechnician, having him take out the Statssied Jedi and Malak with some well placed shots and grenades.
I agree BUT do you honestly think that if someone writes a book that they are going to have Revan do just that?
Originally posted by truejedi
i would pick Qui-Gonn. we just don't have enough detail on HOW Revan defeats his opponents.
Qui-Gon was skilled and experienced but that was not enough to defeat Darth Maul. Now unless you think that Darth Maul is more powerful than Revan, Qui-Gon does not stands a chance in this case as well.
Originally posted by truejedi
Its all decided by gameplay. he could possibly have relied largely on explosives or blasters, which would do him little good against a jedi of Qui Gonn's caliber.
1) Vast amount of experience
2) Light Saber
3) The Force with exceptional mastery in it
4) Highly advanced Battle Precognition
5) High intelligence
Great assumption! 🙄
Originally posted by Tangible God
It's eniterely possible. Some author may decide that there's too much saber and Force stuff, and they decide to show Revan as an accomplished sharpshooter and pyrotechnician, having him take out the Statssied Jedi and Malak with some well placed shots and grenades.
Ask Drew about Revan and he will tell you something else.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDForce wise its a no-no, that i agree but in sheer blade work and saber skills? I think he is arguably better than revan seeing that in the earlier years he rivaled mace windu, a foo who put sidious on his ass.
So now Qui-Gon is above a person who was among the most powerful Jedi in his age and possibly in the history of the Jedi Order as well?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDMauls saber skills are extremely good, he defeated anoon bandora(sp?) whom was second to none in sheer saber abilities.
Qui-Gon was skilled and experienced but that was not enough to defeat Darth Maul. Now unless you think that Darth Maul is more powerful than Revan, Qui-Gon does not stands a chance in this case as well.
Revan beats him in the force, but for a strict saber fight, i see quigon as the winner.
Originally posted by truejedi
i would pick Qui-Gonn. we just don't have enough detail on HOW Revan defeats his opponents. Its all decided by gameplay. he could possibly have relied largely on explosives or blasters, which would do him little good against a jedi of Qui Gonn's caliber.
Here are some feats that let us know that Revan was a skilled warrior who at times engaged in combat.
1. He was able to rip through the Star Forges defense that were called a match for any Jedi, then beating Bastilla multiple times while she was being constantly revived and amped up by the Star Forge, THEN proceeding to beat Malak at least 2 times in a row while he was empowered by the Star Forge and revived by the life force of dead Jedi.
2. Revan using force storms to slaughter Rataka scouting parties on Lehon
3. Revan battled and killed Mandalore the Ultimate in hand to hand combat.
4. He was able to defeat the legendary Echani Yusanis in a duel. Revan prove to have a higher Battle Precognition that allowed him defeat Yusanis.
I hope that helps.
Originally posted by Kotor3He didn't "rip" the defences apart alone, he was with his party remember?
1. He was able to rip through the Star Forges defense that were called a match for any Jedi, then beating Bastilla multiple times while she was being constantly revived and amped up by the Star Forge, THEN proceeding to beat Malak at least 2 times in a row while he was empowered by the Star Forge and revived by the life force of dead Jedi.
Originally posted by Kotor3Anything to back this up?
2. Revan using force storms to slaughter Rataka scouting parties on Lehon
Originally posted by SchwarzeneggerDepending on where this takes place, Revan would recognise Ataru and take away most of his fighting room.
Force wise its a no-no, that i agree but in sheer blade work and saber skills? I think he is arguably better than revan seeing that in the earlier years he rivaled mace windu, a foo who put sidious on his ass.
Mauls saber skills are extremely good, he defeated anoon bandora(sp?) whom was second to none in sheer saber abilities.Revan beats him in the force, but for a strict saber fight, i see quigon as the winner.
In the force, Revan wins. Period.
The PT era jedi didn't really show noteworthy combat skills with the force against other jedi. Yoda being the exception that proves the rule.
Qui-Gon never showed anything resembling what Revan or the other sith and jedi presented during combat with each other.
Originally posted by DarkSerpent
Depending on where this takes place, Revan would recognise Ataru and take away most of his fighting room....Qui-Gon never showed anything resembling what Revan or the other sith and jedi presented during combat with each other.
Plus Revan was a lightsaber prodigy. Plus Revan is full of win.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Plus Revan was a lightsaber prodigy. Plus Revan is full of win.
No, Revan is never noted to be a superb lightsaber user- unlike Qui-Gon, whose mastery of the blade was almost unparalleled in the Jedi Order at the time.
Revan, being an unknown, dies in the saber combat and wins the force and the all-out (in a curbstomp).
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
No, Revan is never noted to be a superb lightsaber user- unlike Qui-Gon, whose mastery of the blade was almost unparalleled in the Jedi Order at the time.Revan, being an unknown, dies in the saber combat and wins the force and the all-out (in a curbstomp).
Revan was undefeated in sabers and the greatest duelist in the Order before he left it (KOTOR3 will correct me if I'm wrong there).
Short list, from the top of my head, of PT people who pwn Qui-Gon in sabers:
Yoda
Mace
Depa
Sora
Dooku
Anakin
Anoon
Cin
Maul
Sidious
Ta da.
EDIT: Might even add Kit into the mix.