Originally posted by Aster PhoenixNo. The mod settled the "holding out your fist at light speed" issue. I didn't participate in that issue at all. You made a wholly different and unsupported claim. Prove it. There is no negative to prove. You're comparing one thing with the other. Kryptonian. Mjolnir. Prove a Kryptonian's superiority over a thrown Mjolnir.
And more then once we have been over the proving an negative thing....Anyways the mod has settled things.
Otherwise, abandon your claim and statement as baseless.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No. The mod settled the "holding out your fist at light speed" issue. I didn't participate in that issue at all. You made a wholly different and unsupported claim. Prove it. There is no negative to prove. You're comparing one thing with the other. Kryptonian. Mjolnir. Prove a Kryptonian's superiority over a thrown Mjolnir.Otherwise, abandon your claim and statement as baseless.
No you made the claim. You back it up. Does a mod actually have to settle this as well?
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Alll I was that he flies him at that speed with his fist out in front.
Why is this such a major point you ask(as I know Bada just did)? Because this whole debate started because you were acting like Supes's max strength and speed would be sufficient to penetrate Thanos's shields if he raised them as he did against the Fallen One. Now that claim may or may not be true, but whether or not Supes's will be going all out in the opening seconds has a lot of relevance in the discussion at hand because if Supes is even slightly stunned by running into the force field at less than full speed and strength(which would be far more in character for him) it gives Thanos a legitimate opening against his otherwise faster opponent.
Originally posted by Aster PhoenixGlad to see you concede that a mod declared a separate issue moot.
No you made the claim. You back it up. Does a mod actually have to settle this as well?
Now... like I said. Any child with grasp of the English language can clearly see that you responded to my neutral information post with a claim, "a hammer and a Kryptonian aren't the same thing." You made the initial comparison. My completely neutral and informational post was my first post in this thread. Then you commented with your claim. I responded to your claim with disagreement. You refuse to concede your position. I then asked for proof. You responded my saying, "No. You prove it."
Who was completely neutral when participating in this thread? I was.
Who made a claim first? You did.
Who asked for proof first? I did.
Stop dodging. Proof. Now. Otherwise, abandon your claim as baseless.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Glad to see you concede that a mod declared a separate issue moot.
And your the one who presented Thor's hammer as proof that Supes couldn't pierce the shield, hence your compared the two, hence you must prove they are the same.
Stop dodging. Proof. Now. Otherwise, abandon your claim as baseless.
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
You think there is something about combat that prevents him from putting his fist in front of him?
Originally posted by Aster PhoenixI have to go look through the comics again since I haven't touch my old Supes comic in years but if it will matter i 'WILL' maybe tomorrow
Cool let's see. Because he has almost matched Flash in the past.
Many people have match Flash he is hardly shown over light speed most of the time. Sure his best speed feats are amazing but keeping up with a flash not even utilizing the speed force is no biggie.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I think there's something about his character that prevents it in the opening seconds of combat.
Rules state both combatants start out with knowledge of the other. So he would know that he has to. When he's fought people like Doomsday he has used lethal force because he knows it's necessary.
Originally posted by tdazz
Thor throws his hammer FTL.
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Okay that really needs proof.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
To the farthest reaches of the galaxy and back in 60 seconds, far, far, far beyond the speed of light:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/IWhomTheGodsWouldDestroy-35.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/IWhomTheGodsWouldDestroy-36.jpgA bit hard to read, but Thor states, "I say thee-- NEVER! Now whilst mystic Mjolnir may speed from my hand as swift as light itself!":
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightspeed0015yl.jpgMjolnir travels in a circle at a speed "far greater than light." He makes a faster-than-light continuum vortex thingy around Kang:
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightspeed0021oi.jpgUses Mjolnir to propel himself at double and then triple the speed of light:
http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lightspeed0050lh.jpgBefore Thor lost his temporal energies within Mjolnir, he travels through time by swinging it at exactly twice the speed of light:
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thehammerspeed0029uc.jpg
Originally posted by Aster PhoenixI'm not going to patronize you like a child anymore. You made a claim first. I never suggested anything. I was trying to be nice because you asked someone to support their assertion with proof and I gave you proof. I made no comments otherwise. Do not insert what you'd like to have happened where nothing exists. I never participated in this thread until you asked for proof. I knew where it was, so I gave it to you out of courtesy. Then you made a claim in response.
Thank you, But a hammer and a Kryptonian are not the same thing.
I asked for proof. So provide it. It's very simple.
Originally posted by kgkg
I have to go look through the comics again since I haven't touch my old Supes comic in years but if it will matter i 'WILL' maybe tomorrowMany people have match Flash he is hardly shown over light speed most of the time. Sure his best speed feats are amazing but keeping up with a flash not even utilizing the speed force is no biggie.
Did you read the issue where they raced?
Originally posted by darthgoober
I think there's something about his character that prevents it in the opening seconds of combat. Namely an old couple commonly known as Ma and Pa Kent who taught their little boy better than to lay into someone with his full strength and speed before he's taken their measure and knows they can survive it.
I don't see this as a problem considering the forum rules...
Basic Knowledge Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.
Back to the battle now...
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Rules state both combatants start out with knowledge of the other. So he would know that he has to. When he's fought people like Doomsday he has used lethal force because he knows it's necessary.
