Originally posted by occultdestroyerSo you guys believe that..
White Crown Phoenix, Psi-Lord, Trion Juggs, or Legion doesn't stand a chance, even as a team
Jamie already on panel demonstrated total control of the Phoenix's WHR,
which is connected to Phoenix's heart,
he was warping all reality in it effortlessly with a big smile on his face.
The Omniversal power of Merlin was beneath 238 Jaspers,
who was far weaker than 616 Jaspers.
The rest of the team would just be casualties of war.
Team 1 in a devastating stomp.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah.Jamie already on panel demonstrated total control of the Phoenix's WHR,
which is connected to Phoenix's heart,
he was warping all reality in it effortlessly with a big smile on his face.
this is just as much crap as it was the first million times you said it. he teleported two people out of it, he wasn't even aware of them until Betsy thought of Brian and somehow their twin thing kicked in, then he pulled strings and they were pulled out of the white hot room, nothing more.
Team 1 goes down, can't Psilord just throw a big bang at them 😉
Jamie ain't all that hot as his sister who was protected from reality and mind alteration was altered the second she was transported, yet the daughter of the Phoenix was able to see through the false reality, and was able to psi link Betsy with the other Xmen at a later date during the first fallen arc.
Betsy and Rachel summoning images of themselves was more impressive. The omniversal power of Merlin must have also been beneath Necrom with the anti-Phoenix too since he faked his death and didn't show up again until after Rachel defeated his old mentor. Nor would he have this so called omniversal power if not for the power of the Phoenix, as a result of his mentor planning to take this power but abandoning it for the Phoenix.
Originally posted by LordKaosthis is just as much crap as it was the first million times you said it.
Got it.
Originally posted by LordKaoshe teleported two people out of it
(White Hot Room)
(Jamie Braddock, on panel, clearly depicted making it his playpen)
Originally posted by LordKaoshe wasn't even aware of them until Betsy thought of Brian
and somehow their twin thing kicked in
That's not stated and/or depicted anywhere on panel or in any bio.
In fact, it was Jamie that put them together there,
in the above scan he says it, so ...
"I've gone to a lot of trouble to bind your lives & fates together"
... nice try.
Originally posted by LordKaosthen he pulled strings and they were pulled out of the white hot room,
nothing more.
Originally posted by LordKaosTeam 1 goes down, can't Psilord just throw a big bang at them
Originally posted by LordKaosJamie ain't all that hot as his sister who was protected from reality and mind alteration was altered the second she was transported, yet the daughter of the Phoenix was able to see through the false reality, and was able to psi link Betsy with the other Xmen at a later date during the first fallen arc.
You're sleeping on Jamie.
Originally posted by LordKaosBetsy and Rachel summoning images of themselves was more impressive.
Originally posted by LordKaosThe omniversal power of Merlin must have also been beneath Necrom with the anti-Phoenix too since he faked his death and didn't show up again until after Rachel defeated his old mentor.
Merlin had power over all time & space back then,
what do you think Otherworld is, or the Starlight Citidel, or the Celestial Nullifier?
You think these things appeared out of nowhere? 🙂
Originally posted by LordKaosNor would he have this so called omniversal power if not for the power of the Phoenix, as a result of his mentor planning to take this power but abandoning it for the Phoenix.
But just to make it clear, lest we confuse others,
Phoenix did not empower the energy Matrix in any way shape or form,
the Force, VIA the interface alignment,
was able to create a duplicate 616 Tower across the Multiverse,
the interface alignment is a natural occurring event
where all the doors of the Multiverse line up & open in a straight line,
the Doors are the Lighthouse Towers, when this alignment occurs,
one has simultaneous access to every Universe in the Multiverse,
this is how the Tower was created in every Universe.
"when a series of interfaces across the Multiverse were aligned,
the localized energy fields merged ... to Create an Energy Matrix."
The Energy fields merge on their own...
and the Interfaces across the Mulitverse Align by THEMSELVES[/i]
At the moment of alignment, THEN Feron called Phoenix to project the Tower",
Still a decent feat regardless though. 👆
btw. The Multiverse later expanded into the Omniverse.
It's not false Betsy was in the white room thought of Brian a window opened showing Brian and then Jamie appeared in the window, he then pulled strings and a teleportation happened.
Since we are talking about warping the white hot room, betsy was able to conjure an infinite amount of her other selves throughout creation, while Rachel's energy signature flared up and the whole white hot room reflected it, both more impressive than a teleportation affect. His part in saving the omniverse as you call it was no more than anybody else who didn't get directly involved he sent warnings through Meggan, so did Roma and Saturnyne (and she has no powers at all, so it must not have been that hard).
you keep saying he created a universe from scratch, yet he still had problems warping a phased being, which has been affected by both Jean and Rachel telekinetically.
you can continue to exaggerate feats all you want, it is clearly shown that he pulls strings and they are teleported, i remember a while back you tried to use the fact that the strings are going towards the crystal around Rachel's neck that he warped the entire white hot room into the crystal, when in actuality Rachel was holding on to the crystal once they arrived in the WHR imprinted with Jeans essence giving them a direct link to the WHR as their jaunt there was accompanied by a Phoenix raptor covering the both of them.
he creates universes and the other "becomes" them, but we know that White Phoenix can manipulate the entirety of a universe and according to you psilord can create big bangs, sounds like two universes going down to me team FTW
i never said she empowered the matrix I said she made it possible for merlin to get all this omniversal power you speak of him having. The fact was it was necroms idea to consolidate the power of the alignment, but once he got his sights on Phoenix the power of the alignment apparently didn't impress him anymore. Feron and Merlin both knew that Necrom would come back to take the power of the Phoenix and what did Merlin do when this happened, he hid and waited for Rachel to do what he apparently was too bitched out to do, because he certainly showed up right after. The CN is not of Merlins creation so don't go there.
