I'm particularly not interested. Palpatine is a compelling villain; someone who first ruled the galaxy by manipulating its peoples into handing him its leadership and second through conquering by force, satisfying my personal requirements that he isn't a complete brute and the diehards who love their "LOLZ I WANT A SMASH SMASH BADDIE!!1!" That he is also deeply, deeply flawed with habitual narcissism and megalomania refusal to submit long after he has been beaten is an interesting concept.
Originally posted by Gideon
I'm particularly not interested. Palpatine is a compelling villain; someone who first ruled the galaxy by manipulating its peoples into handing him its leadership and second through conquering by force, satisfying my personal requirements that he isn't a complete brute and the diehards who love their "LOLZ I WANT A SMASH SMASH BADDIE!!1!" That he is also deeply, deeply flawed with habitual narcissism and megalomania refusal to submit long after he has been beaten is an interesting concept.
He's completely predictable and purely evil...You can pretty much ask yourself, "What's the worst, most evil thing he can do at this point that will make him even more of a villian?" Come up with the answer, read a few pages later - and viola - it'll be realized.
He is one-dimensional. I like my villians to be charming and likable. There's nothing remotely redeeming about Palpatine's character and he is completely repugnant.
I understand that apparently you don't share my views in that regard. But we aren't having an actual debate. I'm attempting to explain my distaste for the character.
Originally posted by Gideon
Charming and likeable... did Lucas retcon the scene where Palpatine declared the Empire? Guess I missed the thousands of stormtroopers having their blasters trained on the Senators.
Pardon me for not specifying something you should clearly have been able to understand:
'Charming and likable to the out-of-universe audience who have already seen the numerous "bad" and ego maniacal, one-dimensional maneuvers Sidious had used to get to such a point.'
There we go.
Originally posted by Gideon
Stop bitching, really. The fact that he's not shedding years after every murder or acting like a deluded prick in the fashion of every antihero on every angst-filled teenaged novella is something to be held against him? Cute. Like I said, I'm not particularly interested.
Bitching? No. We both liked McDiarmid's performances, save for the parts which you've already stated. I was giving you more insight as to when I stopped liking the character. So, you know, you'd understand my point of view better. Instead of randomly insulting me whenever you feel like it.
You're all bitching. Enyalus, Gideon, Lightsnake; it's absurd. And now I'm bitching about you bitching and also bitching about other people bitching about how amazing everyone else is at bitching.
But you guys sound like idiots. "Palps sux!, no he rox, bain SUX, NO ban has teh dimenshunz, palpy is boring, NOO palps is teh greaetest mos kcoolest evah!"
Jesus.
Of course your not interested, Gideon. Whenever anybody challenges you or outright beats you, you never seemed to reply. You take my(and others) willingness to accept that I'm wrong as conceding in every arguement since you can't accept that somebody can be an ass and intelligent at the same time.
Your on insecurity and my lack of it is why guys like you simply skirt around with a loyal band of cronies who praise in order to give undeserved credit to your opinion. You only side witht he easy-to-defend side and never pick somebody who presents a difficult challenge as losing would damage your oh-so-valued reputation.
Your self-inflated ego is only worsened by the fact that many of the ones who would keep people like you in line are gone.
Great Vengeance, Advent, and Borbarad are the only ones left from that time. You, LS, and that brown-nosing Big S only argue what is shown and have such tunnelvision that you can't concede your favorites losing.
You can only argue what's already been argued a thousand times and when someone comes along and defeats your points or hel, even just one pot, you can't take so you either ignore it as if this uppity "moron" didn't say anything or you hide behind random bullshit that you personally come up with.
In conclusion, these words should have been said LONG ago and and internet forum should NEVER be taken so damn seriously. I know I'm probably going to get banned again, but so what, it's not like this place is in the prime of it's life anymore. No offense to most of you but now I realize why NOBODY took me seriously when Gideon stood up for me.
Originally posted by FaunusYeah... but the internet is serious business. 😛
You're all bitching. Enyalus, Gideon, Lightsnake; it's absurd. And now I'm bitching about you bitching and also bitching about other people bitching about how amazing everyone else is at bitching.But you guys sound like idiots. "Palps sux!, no he rox, bain SUX, NO ban has teh dimenshunz, palpy is boring, NOO palps is teh greaetest mos kcoolest evah!"
Jesus.
Originally posted by Faunus
You're all bitching. Enyalus, Gideon, Lightsnake; it's absurd. And now I'm bitching about you bitching and also bitching about other people bitching about how amazing everyone else is at bitching.But you guys sound like idiots. "Palps sux!, no he rox, bain SUX, NO ban has teh dimenshunz, palpy is boring, NOO palps is teh greaetest mos kcoolest evah!"
.....Lightsnake started it. *points*
Originally posted by Faunus
You're all bitching. Enyalus, Gideon, Lightsnake; it's absurd. And now I'm bitching about you bitching and also bitching about other people bitching about how amazing everyone else is at bitching.But you guys sound like idiots. "Palps sux!, no he rox, bain SUX, NO ban has teh dimenshunz, palpy is boring, NOO palps is teh greaetest mos kcoolest evah!"
Jesus.
....what am I doing here? I haven't even posted in this thread!
I'm staying far away from discussions regarding Palp as a character, it's BANE I'm bashing!
Yeesh, criticize me if you must, but do it right!
Originally posted by LightsnakeWhich is why, while some hate you, mostly everybody respects you. It's that Gideon can't take criticism or anybody pointing out his flaws that is so damn annoying.
....what am I doing here? I haven't even posted in this thread!I'm staying far away from discussions regarding Palp as a character, it's BANE I'm bashing!
Yeesh, criticize me if you must, but do it right!
Originally posted by EnyalusYeah, it wasn't really a flame so much as me getting tired of him.
I generally refrain from flaming and trolling. But it was much more polite and well done than other posts I've seen by other members of this subforum.
Just how spot on was it? I say 9.5/10 but that's biased.