The Xmen vs The Incredible Hulk

I was going to take your post seriously, but then I read the first paragraph and I realized that you're an idiot and not worth the time.

Thus, I will ignore it and move on.

Possible. But Jean Grey possesses stamina and raw power vastly in access of Professor X's- while she isn't as masterful, it's plausible that she won't experience the same result.

If we're using comic feats, though, they utterly rape him. Most X-Men Characters are VASTLY superior in their comic book incarnations.

I agree.

But... I think we're using the term "possible" too much for it to really matter. 😬

RIGHT, because his TK is slow-ass. It's not.

Yeah, it is. How long did it take him to rip the bridge apart then levitate it over to Alcatraz? The idea that Magneto can "rip off a bridge then tie Huc up with it" is ridiculous.

Also, amount makes up for quality. Hulk isn't dodging cars, debris, and perhaps sharp objects coming at him from every angle.

Tell me again why he can dodge machine gun fire and dodge/ catch missles, but can't dodge/slap metal out of the way?

Show me Megneto's best levitation speed feat.

If Magneto can move the Golden Gate bridge then he could hurt the Hulk wil metal weapons I would think. He could suspend him in a metal prison while squezzing/stabbing him. Juggernaut could probably stun him with a running attack. Colossus may be able to trade a few blows and slow him down (Colossus was hit by a large flying rock in the head in the danger room). Tornadoes and optic blasts would keep him in range for the first three guys I mentioned.

It's funny how people continuously ignore what (Ang) Hulk survived and claim he'd be taken down by something much weaker.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
I agree.

But... I think we're using the term "possible" too much for it to really matter. 😬

Hell, I know, but unfortunately, the source material- which is limited to three movies with no literary descriptions of the feats- is far more limited that what we could use in other debates. Speculation is our only option. 😐

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Yeah, it is. How long did it take him to rip the bridge apart then levitate it over to Alcatraz? The idea that Magneto can "rip off a bridge then tie Huc up with it" is ridiculous.

It took him some time, but it was a very large object.

Still, like I've said before, quantity can make up for it. In a city, where metal basically everywhere, Magneto- who can exert limitless power over metal- can bring down the entire city on Hulk. 'Specially since he doesn't give a damn about hurting humans.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Tell me again why he can dodge machine gun fire and dodge/ [b]catch missles, but can't dodge/slap metal out of the way?

Show me Megneto's best levitation speed feat. [/B]

Levitation speed feat? Well, we know that he used that iron in that dude's blood to move it at invisible speeds, but that was a small object. Nothing indicates that Hulk's blood is heavy on iron, anyway. If it was, Magneto could solo.

Again, Hulk isn't gonna dodge the whole city being thrown at him. That's more than enough time for Jean to mind-rape him.

The other X-Men are virtual non-factors.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Still, like I've said before, quantity can make up for it. In a city, where metal basically everywhere, Magneto- who can exert limitless power over metal- can bring down the entire city on Hulk. 'Specially since he doesn't give a damn about hurting humans.

Again, Hulk isn't gonna dodge the whole city being thrown at him. That's more than enough time for Jean to mind-rape him.

1)Magneto has his limits as to how he can exert his power, as seen in the first movie, he couldn't bring an entire city down on Hulk's head in an instance (not that it would matter much, see #2); if he tried, he'd be severely exhausted or dead. You also assume Magneto will have free reign will trying this, it's safe to assume if a few cars and shit come crashing into Hulk, he will respond with an attack(s) on Magneto and Hulk only needs one hit to kill Magneto.

2)The Hulk had thousands upon thousands tons of rock come crashing down on his head(@3:20), he survived. He also survived a gamma bomb explosion at ground zero. Top that?

3) Can Jean "mind-rape"? I don't recall her doing this, there's also the factor of 'can Hulk be mind-raped', as he has a dual personality. This would be the mutants only chance and it is an uncertainty.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
I was going to take your post seriously, but then I read the first paragraph and I realized that you're an idiot and not worth the time.

Thus, I will ignore it and move on.

I agree.

But... I think we're using the term "possible" too much for it to really matter. 😬

Yeah, it is. How long did it take him to rip the bridge apart then levitate it over to Alcatraz? The idea that Magneto can "rip off a bridge then tie Huc up with it" is ridiculous.

Tell me again why he can dodge machine gun fire and dodge/ [b]catch missles, but can't dodge/slap metal out of the way?

Show me Megneto's best levitation speed feat. [/B]

I dont know if you are talking to me, but if is in this way, i dont care.

By the way, people ignoring what hulk survived??? See what magneto or jean grey could do in the movies.

Originally posted by bakerboy

See what magneto or jean grey could do in the movies.

That would be nothing more powerful than what the Hulk survived. (which iof course you'll just continue to ignore while ranting like an idiot)

The only chance the mutants have is Jean and the possibility of her doing something to his mind, which is inconclusive.

Originally posted by Robtard
That would be nothing more powerful than what the Hulk survived. (which iof course you'll just continue to ignore while ranting like an idiot)

The only chance the mutants have is Jean and the possibility of her doing something to his mind, which is inconclusive.

Clearly, you are the idiot, only one little fanboy still overrating his favourite character, the hulk in this case.

The question is, what the hulk could do against magneto o jean grey???
Punching them??? throwing a car against them?? Dude, if you think it , you are an idiot. the hulk only has phsichal strength and endurance. That is a joke for someone as magneto or jean grey.

Originally posted by Robtard
Points you overlook:

1)Magneto has his limits as to how he can exert his power, as seen in the first movie, he couldn't bring an entire city down on Hulk's head in an instance (not that it would matter much, see #2); if he tried, he'd be severely exhausted or dead. You also assume Magneto will have free reign will trying this, it's safe to assume if a few cars and shit come crashing into Hulk, he will respond with an attack(s) on Magneto and Hulk only needs one hit to kill Magneto.

Video, please?

And I'm not saying he'll actually hurt the Hulk. He most certainly won't be able to- he can restrain him to give Jean the opening she needs to mind-own him. I think Magneto can restrain him for considerable time.

Originally posted by Robtard
2)The Hulk had thousands upon thousands tons of rock come crashing down on his head(@3:20), he survived. He also survived a gamma bomb explosion at ground zero. Top that?

Mind-rape. Magneto can restrain him, not hurt him physically.

Originally posted by Robtard
3) Can Jean "mind-rape"? I don't recall her doing this, there's also the factor of 'can Hulk be mind-raped', as he has a dual personality. This would be the mutants only chance and it is an uncertainty.

Destroy minds? No. But can't she repress the Hulk's rage and personality, and cause him to revert back to Bruce Banner form? I think that should be very much within the limits of her abilities.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Clearly, you are the idiot, only one little fanboy still overrating his favourite character, the hulk in this case.

The question is, what the hulk could do against magneto o jean grey???
Punching them??? throwing a car against them?? Dude, if you think it , you are an idiot. the hulk only has phsichal strength and endurance. That is a joke for someone as magneto or jean grey.

I'm going to spell it out simply for you, since you're a complete moron and will continue to argue from a moron's angle. Hulk CAN kill them, they can't kill Hulk, unless Jean's mind shit works that way, which as noted, is inconclusive.

Punching would kill them, as would being hit by a chunk of sidewalk coming at them at 100+ mph. Hulk can also run at around 300 mph, I'd think being trampled by the Hulk would kill someone of human physical endurance.

Repeat: So, what could they do now that is more powerful than what he was shown to survive in the movie?

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Video, please?

And I'm not saying he'll actually hurt the Hulk. He most certainly won't be able to- he can restrain him to give Jean the opening she needs to mind-own him. I think Magneto can restrain him for considerable time.

Mind-rape. Magneto can restrain him, not hurt him physically.

Destroy minds? No. But can't she repress the Hulk's rage and personality, and cause him to revert back to Bruce Banner form? I think that should be very much within the limits of her abilities.

In the first movie, he transferred his powers to Rogue, because exhausting that much of his powers would have killed him. Trying to bring down a city ontop of the Hulk would easily exert that much or more of his power. I.E. Using his powers puts a physical strain on him, the more power, the more the strain.

Hulk opened up Abrams tanks like they were tinfoil, he also was able to exert enough force to throw an Abrams tank (65 tons) several miles in a matter of seconds. Magneto isn't going to hold him for very long, if at all.

While I agree that this is the only way they could stop (not kill) the Hulk, it's unknown if she could.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Show me Megneto's best levitation speed feat.

I've been reading this whole thread and nobody has proven that either Magneto or Jean can do anything to restrain or "mind-rape" the Hulk. When push comes to shove these are the only two mutants who have a chance of stopping the Angs Hulk. As we all know Magneto in movies had limited power compared to that of the comics. Let's say that Magneto could throw a bridge at the Hulk , the Hulk would have NO PROBLEM ripping it to shreads and or dodging it as proven by the movie.

Hulk never ripped a bridge of that size to shreds.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Hulk never ripped a bridge of that size to shreds.

Even if he can't then like I said, he can EASILY jump over it or dodge it. As somebody pointed out Magneto, (in X3) was moving that bridge slower than Christ coming back . Hulk can easily jump over the bridge and punch off Mag's head.

Sure.

But when you said sumthin wrong or based on nothing, I'm gonna call ya out on it. 😉

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Sure.

But when you said sumthin wrong or based on nothing, I'm gonna call ya out on it. 😉

Well who said I still don't think he could rip the bridge to shreads? The way he ripps apart & throws around tanks/helis makes me believe he could easiler tear a bridge apart.

Lets put it this way... if Mags does throw a bridge at Hulk only a small percentage of the bridge's surface area would actually come into contact with the Hulk and the Hulk could easily smash through any single steel beam coming at him.

Originally posted by Blinky
Well who said I still don't think he could rip the bridge to shreads? The way he ripps apart & throws around tanks/helis makes me believe he could easiler tear a bridge apart.

Lets put it this way... if Mags does throw a bridge at Hulk only a small percentage of the bridge's surface area would actually come into contact with the Hulk and the Hulk could easily smash through any single steel beam coming at him.

you said he could easily rip the ENTIRE bridge to shreds. Not that he could break a hole through one and be safe.

Oh and btw...If that bridge landed on Hulk, he WOULD be crushed. What with not having a single strength feat to say he could lift the bridge.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Lol.

you said he could easily rip the ENTIRE bridge to shreds. Not that he could break a hole through one and be safe.

Oh and btw...If that bridge landed on Hulk, he WOULD be crushed. What with not having a single strength feat to say he could lift the bridge.

Well I still think he could ripp apart the bridge, but I doubt he would want to do that in a middle of a fight. So like I said, Hulk would just need to jump at the Bridge (the bridge would be moving reallllllly slow) and crush a hole in it and be safe. Either way Mag's skills in all the movies are weak Hulk would'nt need to worry about him too much.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx

Oh and btw...If that bridge landed on Hulk, he WOULD be crushed. What with not having a single strength feat to say he could lift the bridge.

Originally posted by Robtard
B)He had thousands and thousands of tons of rock crash down on him.

/repeat

He also dug his way through the SF streets like a ****ing badger, he'd have no problem punching and tearing a Hulk-sized hole in that bridge.

Oh, did you forget the survived a gamma bomb? I think that puts out considerable more force than a bridge falling on Hulk, taking into acocunt that the Hulk would just sit there and wait for a slow as bridge to hit him.