Originally posted by Sado22
it don't matter in ryu's case cuz he has no power feat. that's the point: how can you claim its an endurance feat for Hugo when ryu's never had any power feats? pay attention. bison the godtier who got pwned by 13 dolls. bison the godtier who got pwned by rose who is a tier below ryu. and he's the same godtier who ran away from ryu sometime later. so, yes, its not impressive.
badly written PIS don't count, boy.as for gouki's ending, its hard to say. gouki hunches over may be associated with him powering up. the fact that he's glowing with ki and punches the island to kingdom come sways me to the side of "not hurt".
no, ryu must be a weak pansy cuz:
-he was pushed to his limits by midtier, generic thug
-said midtier generic thug has done nothing but gte pwned his whole career
-said midtier generic thug got pwned sometime later by rookie boy
-said midtier generic thug most likely got beat down by Alex (my speculation)
and brain took bullets to the chest but didn't fall cuz (now pay attention) he's a cyborg. heck, he runs on generator. so what, you gonna tell me that Terminator has more durability feats than Rocky Balboa? see how absurd your connection is?
as for tranqs, jin took bullets to the chest and just healed in T3 cuz of devil. tranqs are different cuz they just knock you out regardless. read up on tranquilizers bub.
-he didnt hold his own [b]he ran away
-drives blew up later.
-juli and juni are not metahumans and are as featless as the tekken soldiers. on top of that, we don't even have any proof that they are meta. and in cody's ending he and guy pwn them up to make to get to the base.
still fail.try wrapping your head around two things here:
-infinite stamina
-infinte power
-infinite supply of power
-godtier
and now once you've done that, try putting that next to "ran away" and see if it makes sense. it aint rocket science. btw, f0cking rose in the ass isn't a feat when you do it in a way that she couldn't touch you while you could. it was unfair to rose. notice, that SFA2, rose beat him up so bad she thought he was dead. as I-drop put it once, that's an asswhoopin if i ever saw one.
as for tiers, its the only thing we can go by. on top of that, some of the tiers are confirmed with interviews. that's why. [/B]
1. Alot of the characters you like to rep have no "power feats" yet you still give them the win regardless. Like...Terry Bogard for example. 😱 We learned in SF3 that Ryu is very physically strong, in that when he first started his training with Oro he could lift a large boulder, Oro, and a large rock at the same time. Now, combine that with the fact that Ryu has bullet(or more) speed, and that is his strongest Shoryuken, it is a great endurance feat. Also, remember that Ryu's punches can hurt Gouki, the guy who withstanded pressure 1,000 meters under the ocean. So we have someone with superhuman strength striking someone with bulletspeed, and with his most powerful Shoryuken, but Hugo is not KOed. Sounds like a damn good endurance feat. And if neither have any power feats...Why would it be a bad feat for either? Bison fleed from 13 Dolls, after fighting groups of people and suffering damage, and his power was fluctuating wildly, as in, not limitless. He ran from Ryu after pwning him when they fought one on one and after Bison fought 3 people, one of which is a top-tier. Notice how you only bring up things that could discredit Bison, never bring up things that credit him.
...He was hunched over with his arms hanging loose because he was powering up? That's BS if I ever saw it...
2. When was he "pushed to his limits?" He was unable to KO Hugo with his strongest Shoryuken, sure, but does that mean that Ryu was pushed to his limits? He may of gotten "pwned" his whole career, but you never once considered it was due to something such as being slow and dumb, not being weak in terms of durability? No, of course you didn't. Anything to discredit Ryu. Rookie boy? And fvck your speculation.
3. So because Bryan is a cyborg, that must by default mean Jin has more durability than Bryan? Now you're just grasping at straws man, that is a BS excuse and you know it. How about I reverse this and say that a Devil who is also a Mishima can't take bullets, but a cyborg can. Reversing fail logic is fun. Facts are, Bryan has proven himself to have more durability than Jin, and no excuses or failed movie referencing comparisons will change that. Deal with it.
4. Ran away after already fighting two top-tiers, two second-tiers, and one whatever tier Sakura is. Drives blew up during a fight. And shit, gameplay moves alone place the Dolls at being above normal human, as does their status as being clones of Bison imbued with Psycho Power. Random feat for a random metahuman makes you quote the word "metahuman" each time you bring up Terry cause Terry beat him, yet in a similar, albeit SF situation, you deny it.
5. Power was fluctuating wildly. Also, Bison does not have a healing factor to my knowledge. In fact, if anything his healing is less advanced, considering without his Drives his body goes boom. The name of Rose's powers are dubbed "Soul Power", something tells me she is not defenseless in soul combat, especially since I believe it was stated she fought him in soul combat. And if Rose is a tier below Ryu and beat the same Bison Ryu lost to, then why should Rose be a tier below Ryu? If anything, she should be a tier higher. 🙂
6. Like what tiers? And no, Tiamat's interpretation of the tiers is not fact, shit, this is proven by Gen's placing being below Ken's.