Terry Bogard vs Kratos

Started by Kirikaze Fuuma16 pages
Originally posted by Jayct
F**k Terry - He has been fighting for over thirty years yet Ryu who has only been fighting for 10 years is just as strong as him - if not stronger. Ryu is going to surpass Terry by a large margin after SF3 so there.

equal? even though Terry has a better winning record than Ryu?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
equal? even though Terry has a better winning record than Ryu?

Winning record means squat. Jean Cloud Van Damme only lost one fight in his professional career - does that make him a good fighter ?...I think not. Anybody can build up a winning record over 30 years of fighting - Ryu had all his losses in his first 5 years or so of fighting, with the exception of Oro.He was inexperienced and new on the scene. By the time of SF3 he is almost unbeatable.

No, BUYING LEMONS is manly you noob.

.....damn 🙁

F**k Terry - He has been fighting for over thirty years yet Ryu who has only been fighting for 10 years is just as strong as him - if not stronger. Ryu is going to surpass Terry by a large margin after SF3 so there

proof of ryu being as strong?
exactly. shut up now.

Winning record means squat. Jean Cloud Van Damme only lost one fight in his professional career - does that make him a good fighter ?...I think not.

yes it does, actually 😬

Ryu had all his losses in his first 5 years or so of fighting

first 5 years in a career that lasted 10 means that he's been getting owned for half his career 😂
oh and after the first 2 years of a fighting career you no longer have the "rookie" excuse.

with the exception of Oro. He was inexperienced and new on the scene. By the time of SF3 he is almost unbeatable.

no he's not. only the fanwankers make him unbeatable.

False. Ryu cheapshotting Sagat did tons for the story & for Ryu & it let Sagat stay a badass & have a damn good reason to hate Ryu. Terry will never be written into a serious fight w/somebody who they'd allow to look that tough. & you know they ain't gonna let him get FUBARED like Kyo did. Either Terry will win, be taken away from the fight, or they'll call it a friendly match. That's just the way it is. I don't expect that to change. "What's convenient"? That's coming from the same guy who said Krauser was godtier then conveniently changed it? Said Krauser was dominating & then changed it to a close fight so it wouldn't be a Hogan routine? Said Terry'd solo'd godtiers & now says he never fought any solo? Said Terry was unbeaten several times & then conveniently said he considered the Zaki fight a loss? Don't make me laugh mane. You know I don't care about what's convenient & never have.

stop being touchy, mane. when was the last time you and i didn't take jabs at each other? 😕
and don't make me list the number of times you changed things for convenience sake. and its not like i changed those things for convenience so much as i crosschecked (unlike some foo who doesn't even bother checking up the links i send him) and discovered that KLantis was pulling more stuff out of his ass than even you 😂

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22

proof of ryu being as strong?
exactly. shut up now.

Ryu is as strong now as he was when he went all "evil" on Sagat. Thats pretty damn strong. And since you can't prove that Terry is stronger than this, you shut up now.

Originally posted by Sado22

first 5 years in a career that lasted 10 means that he's been getting owned for half his career 😂
oh and after the first 2 years of a fighting career you no longer have the "rookie" excuse.

We have guys kickboxing for us that we still call rookies after 5 years...

Originally posted by Sado22

no he's not. only the fanwankers make him unbeatable.

That's why I said almost...no fighter is unbeatable...ever...but the fact that he destroyed Alex makes him "almost" unbeatable in my eyes. Just to rub some oil into your godly Terry Faggorts arse, I think he would destroy RYU pre SF3. Completely. After SF3 he's going to struggle.

Originally posted by Jayct

1. Ryu is as strong now as he was when he went all "evil" on Sagat. Thats pretty damn strong. And since you can't prove that Terry is stronger than this, you shut up now.

2. We have guys kickboxing for us that we still call rookies after 5 years...

3. That's why I said almost...no fighter is unbeatable...ever...but the fact that he destroyed Alex makes him "almost" unbeatable in my eyes. Just to rub some oil into your godly Terry Faggorts arse, I think he would destroy RYU pre SF3. Completely. After SF3 he's going to struggle.

1. as strong as satsui no hadou but can't KO a pro wrestler such as Hugo eh?

2. it's just rare to found a good fight from Ryu.

3. he defeat Alex perfect in my opinion. but what has Alex done? won against jobbing Gill and then lost to Ryu? seriously, I'm not impressed.

Ryu is as strong now as he was when he went all "evil" on Sagat. Thats pretty damn strong. And since you can't prove that Terry is stronger than this, you shut up now

i told him to shut up for the same reason you're telling me to shut up. its because there is no definite way of proving it. so shut up yourself 🙂

and once again, japanese media frequently confuse "strong" with "skill". they refer to "strength" as the fighters skill level and "power" as phsyical strength. we see it all the time in manga, anime and even videogames. fact of the matter is that SF3 ryu is as "skilled" as Evil ryu of SFA1 but not as strong.

That's why I said almost...no fighter is unbeatable...ever...but the fact that he destroyed Alex makes him "almost" unbeatable in my eyes. Just to rub some oil into your godly Terry Faggorts arse, I think he would destroy RYU pre SF3. Completely. After SF3 he's going to struggle.

funny thing is, my list is like this:
MOTW Terry vs SF3 Ryu= Terry wins 6/10
MOTW Terry vs pre-SF3 Ryu= Terry wins 8/10
FF Terry vs SF3 Ryu= Ryu wins 8/10
FF Terry VS pre-SF3 Ryu= Terry wins 6/10

1. as strong as satsui no hadou but can't KO a pro wrestler such as Hugo eh?

😂
i love to see them try (and fail horribly) to convince me its because of hugo's endurance and not ryu's loserness. though, in ryu's defense i've already cleared it out that he's not as STRONG as SFA1 E Ryu but in fact, as skilled which only makes all the sense in the world.

2. We have guys kickboxing for us that we still call rookies after 5 years.

they pro? i'm pretty sure not.

~Sado

Isn't taking that punch like Hugo's...ONLY durability feat?

But we must assume that both are weak?

Lol idiots.

Ryu in SF3 being as skilled as Evil Ryu in SFA1? That's stupid. Evil Ryu was just as "skilled" as Ryu in SFA1, only more powerful.

Ditto. Dark Hadou represents a power increase, not a skill increase. People can't accept Hugo having a chin. He took a hit. OK. Anybody w/a brain knows that feat is to show how tough Hugo is, not how weak Ryu is. You guys can keep acting dumb if ya want to. People will think you're not really acting after a while though. Is FF Streetwise even canon?

Originally posted by Sado22
stop being touchy, mane. when was the last time you and i didn't take jabs at each other? 😕
and don't make me list the number of times you changed things for convenience sake. and its not like i changed those things for convenience so much as i crosschecked (unlike some foo who doesn't even bother checking up the links i send him) and discovered that KLantis was pulling more stuff out of his ass than even you 😂
Not being touchy. Just saying I don't change for convenience. You wanna list them? Go ahead. Otherwise we can stop right here, mane.

More importantly, we ALL need to STFU about Ryu here. He ain't involved. This ain't Ryu vs Terry vs Kratos. Ryu shit belongs in a thread w/Ryu fighting somebody

Heathen, Ryu is in every thread.

The proof?

His phrase:

"The fight is all."

Now, notice he uses all, and fight, in the same sentence. Clearly it means that in all fights, he is involved.

Dur.

@I-Drop : if you think Ryu in SF3 as strong as SF1 evil Ryu then at least he can KO Hugo which is not as strong as Sagat. but this is Shin Shoryuken and it is Ryu's strongest move. but he can't KO Hugo with his strongest move(even though I believe Hugo was injured). what kind of power Hugo have? his body full of muscles and raw meat? or you want to say he has more durability than an island? dude, this is not DBZ.

You are right, by feats, there are characters in SF who can hit harder than DBZ characters. 🙂

And who the hell said Ryu can bust an island with a Shin Shoryuken?

Like I said, good feat for Hugo. Not a bad one for Ryu.

some people said he is as strong as SF1 evil Ryu so he is on par with SFA Gouki. punch harder than DBZ? you mean Gouki? bull****. even if Gouki sink that island I bet he's using some super special move. otherwise, no. it's impossible that he can sink an island with a punch but he can't even create an explosion which is compared to island buster with his special move. the best explanation is... he's using a super special move.

There was an Evil Ryu in the first street Fighter, Since when ?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
some people said he is as strong as SF1 evil Ryu so he is on par with SFA Gouki. punch harder than DBZ? you mean Gouki? bull****. even if Gouki sink that island I bet he's using some super special move. otherwise, no. it's impossible that he can sink an island with a punch but he can't even create an explosion which is compared to island buster with his special move. the best explanation is... he's using a super special move.
SFA1 Evil Ryu, who is not as strong as SFA Gouki. Super Special Move? And what move would that be? The only move that looks remotely similar was not created til SF3. And by feats, Ryu is physically stronger than Goku in his base form, who can only lift 10 tons. 😂

DBZ characters are nowhere near as uber as people make them out to be in some respects. Sure, due to speed and power they>>>SF characters, but physical strength and punching power is not as diverse.

then could you explain how did he sank an island with his punch but he created not-so-big-compared-to-island-buster explosion with his super special moves tenma gou zankuu? even an elementary school children knows that's bull****.

lift 10 tons? is that an estimation? or that's an actual weight?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
then could you explain how did he sank an island with his punch but he created not-so-big-compared-to-island-buster explosion with his super special moves tenma gou zankuu? even an elementary school children knows that's bull****.

lift 10 tons? is that an estimation? or that's an actual weight?

1. Because the attacks are totally different, one is a burning napalm-ish attack, and the other is a shattering blunt force attack?

2. Actual stated weight, in fact, he declared 10 tons would be too heavy for him. Now, SSJ Goku on the other hand could move comfortably with 40 tons, so yeah, SSJ level and higher>Ryu.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Because the attacks are totally different, one is a burning napalm-ish attack, and the other is a shattering blunt force attack?

2. Actual stated weight, in fact, he declared 10 tons would be too heavy for him. Now, SSJ Goku on the other hand could move comfortably with 40 tons, so yeah, SSJ level and higher>Ryu.

1. however, it's still pointless. his normal punch still seems more powerful than his tenma gou zankuu.

2. ...no. I'm not talking about Goku. I'm talking about Ryu's boulder

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
1. however, it's still pointless. his normal punch still seems more powerful than his tenma gou zankuu.

2. ...no. I'm not talking about Goku. I'm talking about Ryu's boulder

1. Based on an opinion, but we have not even really seen what the Tenma Gou Zankou can truly do. They are far different in terms of use and damage type.

2. Ryu's boulders were definately more than 10 tons, I would guess about 20 tons.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Based on an opinion, but we have not even really seen what the Tenma Gou Zankou can truly do. They are far different in terms of use and damage type.

2. Ryu's boulders were definately more than 10 tons, I would guess about 20 tons.

1. you have seen what tenma gou zankuu can truly do in SF4 trailer. it is supposed to be more powerful than Gouki's punch. in my opinion, if Gouki can sank island with a punch, he'll do the same or maybe much more with his tenma gou zankuu's explosion.

2. is it stated it was 10 tons? or it's your estimation again?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
@I-Drop : if you think Ryu in SF3 as strong as SF1 evil Ryu
Read what I put again. Strong & skilled are not the same thing here either.