Originally posted by Zanbato Yes, and so far the dumbest and most illogical arguments come from you. Thanks for the self ownage.
Originally posted by Zanbato Which is FAR from illogical because
1)Revan showed jack on screen, therefore actually analyzing any fight situation he has been in is difficult.
Originally posted by Zanbato 2) Because Malgus has been shown to take more punishment than your precious Revan seeing how Revan was friggin knocked out by blast from a turbo lazer hitting his cruiser while Malgus took a force wave that ravaged the entire environment
Heavy ship weapons require immense power in order to cut through the dense armor and deflectors they're designed to counter, as well to punch through planetary shields and similar defenses.
Revan was in the most vulnerable position, when Turbolasers were fired upon his deck. The fire came unexpected and he wasn't prepared. His 'brain' got damaged in the aftermath and yet he survived. Does any form of resistance gets better than this?
Also, Revan faced lots of Sith adepts and warriors during his campaign against Malak. The amount of punishment he would have taken would be lot more in comparison.
This statement already gives us a hint:
The quest for the Star Forge, which spanned worlds, kept Revan and Bastila working side-by-side, and thrust Bastila into difficult and challenging roles as a Jedi.
You saw one duel of Malgus and you thought that he was tougher than an established legend? There you go.
Originally posted by Zanbato
3)We actually see Malgus tooling the shit out of jedi's like they were fodder.
Originally posted by Zanbato I don't see how this is illogical if all he did was ask you a question.
Originally posted by Zanbato Someone doesn't understand what a stupid joke is....(thats you because you have a mad obsession over a male character, and thats weirder than weaboos masturbating to drawn out girls).
Originally posted by Zanbato See the above.
Originally posted by Zanbato Hell just read your own stupid arguments.
Originally posted by Zanbato Like you? Makes sense.
Originally posted by Zanbato You didn't respond because you can't answer.
Originally posted by Zanbato Like what you're so fond of pulling out of your tiny arse : Logic.
Originally posted by Zanbato Please you tried to pass that off as skill.
Originally posted by Zanbato Because of a few images? That simply shows one scene where he draws out his saber, how do you know that he didn't resort to "dirty" tricks in other situations?Again, theres no doubt he is powerful and capable of such skills, all we did is ask you, "how are you so sure"? Which you never answer.
How Grievous was such a formidable foe to Jedi despite being not one himself?
Revan's companions and even enemies contended that he was damn powerful and that is why he succeeded. Even Darth Malak admitted in his final duel that Revan exceeded his expectations. Do these responses to Revan's performance in the field ring any bells?
Originally posted by Zanbato Gameplay mechanics? So what are the other companions doing then? Having an orgy onboard the ship? And so what if he writes star wars materials, if he says revan has a black dick while being white with big ears and an arsehole for a mouth does it make it fact? No, it doesn't, unless it is officially established as canon.
Originally posted by Zanbato Or so you claim considering how obsessed with a fictional character from so "long ago" you are.
Originally posted by Zanbato Which means little unless actually shown on screen.
Originally posted by Zanbato Now go back to whatever cave you came from you hairy caveman.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDNo, it is not my personal assumption, it is something every intelligent member on this board agrees with the fact that you are one of, if not the most idiotic and illogical self proclaimed debators on this boad "amir"(yes, i even realize you try to "debate" with people on youtube).
Your personal assumption at best. However, drop the insult flingings - shall we?
Not to mention that you're a pathetic liar as well as i will point out in the following quotes.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWe DO know the outcomes, but because we don't actually witness the actual event, the outcome could have been a result of any given circumstances(minefields, guns, grenades, all which is availible in the kotor gameplay)
I agree that it is difficult to analyze Revan's fighting capabilities but we do know the 'outcomes' of his duels or do we not?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDLie number 1. Revan did not get a direct hit from a turbo laser but rather it was the shockwave that was caused when the turbolazer impacted the bridge that knocked out revan.
Turbolasers are extremely lethal. They are designed to dominate:Heavy ship weapons require immense power in order to cut through the dense armor and deflectors they're designed to counter, as well to punch through planetary shields and similar defenses.
Revan was in the most vulnerable position, when Turbolasers were fired upon his deck. The fire came unexpected and he wasn't prepared. His 'brain' got damaged in the aftermath and yet he survived. Does any form of resistance gets better than this?
And sadly yes, there are much greater forms of resistance shown by at least 4 force users : Darth Caedus, Darth Vader, Darth Sidious and Galen Marek.
For Galen Marek, he gets stabbed by a lightsaber in the chest and then subsequently force choked, ragdolled being slammed into steel walls and then thrown out of the ship into the space of vaccum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP94b9a-qB8
For Vader in his final duel with starkiller in TFU1, he gets hit by a massive force blast, has 3 giant pillars all crush him at once(this alone would have annihilated the vast majority of force users in starwars), and then when they get removed, he gets back on his feet to have starkiller smack off his helmet, force choke him, smash him onto a heat shield and then force blast vader through a glass panel and then onto another pillar which shatters to pieces.
And do you know what happens after that? Vader suffers a mere blackout for a few minutes and then gets back on his feet and still shows enough strength to shield himself when galen commits suicide by summoning enough force energy to let out a massive explosion that destroyed part of the death star and killed every stormtrooper within the vicinity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjUgYDnoHbw&feature=related
Note: This is the actual duel between starkiller and vader, but the problem with this video is instead of the starkiller model, the user has swapped the player model for luke skywalker. I can't find the video with the galen model fighting vader in that final duel in TFU.
As for Darth sidious, just like vader, he blocks the same attack and comes out unharmed and in DE, he both shrugs off a large piece of metal that weighs thousands of kilograms and dissintigrates it when leia throws it at him.
Conclusion: Yes, there ARE MUCH greater displays of resistance. Lying fanboys cant save Revan.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDPunishment in what form? In getting himself ragdolled and smashed onto a pillar which breaks? In getting his limbs cut off? In getting stabbed through the chest and then thrown into the vaccum of space?
Also, Revan faced lots of Sith adepts and warriors during his campaign against Malak. The amount of punishment he would have taken would be lot more in comparison.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDAnd this is reflective on combat ability how? That statement simply tells us how Revan made it a difficult role as a jedi for Bastila, which we clearly see in the game.
This statement already gives us a hint:The quest for the Star Forge, which spanned worlds, kept Revan and Bastila working side-by-side, [B]and thrust Bastila into difficult and challenging roles as a Jedi.
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDYes, because unlike Revan(which by your own words, find it difficult to analyze his combat abilities), we actually see his combat abilities, and the fact that the second video shows him getting extreme brutal punishment in the form of getting hit by a force blast that destroys the entire environment.
You saw one duel of Malgus and you thought that he was tougher than an established legend? There you go.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDCorrect, because we actually see Malgus tooling these no named jedi, unlike Revan thus we get to actually see Malgus combat capabilities.
Big deal (as you guys put: [B]a bunch of no name jedi, right? Right).
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDLie number 2. Revan did not face "entire armies of sith" at once nor did he face "them" alone. I'f you're referring to the star forge, the petty pictures you been so fond of using certainly don't shown an army but a squad.
Revan faced entire armies of Sith and survived.
Lying fanboys cant save Revan.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
He even faced Rancors and Kyrat Dragons and survived in such encounters.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDYou haven't even showed the slightest thing about logic.I am giving logical explanations. You guys want to see some on-screen action than go and ask Bioware.
You're whole premise and argument revolves around this:
Revan did X
Therefore Revan is ub3r and unstoppable
OR
Revan did Y
Galen did not do Y
Therefore Revan is more powerful than him
I don't see any logic in the way you think
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDSo why the hell do you keep responding then?
I am not much willing either.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDThats the way combat abilities are evaluated. Do you think any judge in the real world would be able to analyze and evaluate a boxer,muay thai, mma fighters skills without actually seeing him in a fight against another opponent?
Since people here tend to judge characters on the basis of their on-screen performances and ignore their accomplishments, I don't have much to argue. I, however, tend to keep all aspects in mind, which you guys do not.
Again, wheres you "logic" in all this? Last i recall, you have none.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDMy guess is as good as yours and see the above. Thats the problem with unknowns like Revan.
Since you guys repeatedly remind me that I can't prove anything, can you prove your assumptions than?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDThey give me the impression that you are desperate to prove that Revan is uber and can defeat any character.
And what kind of impression do those images give you?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDAh so you're saying that his combat abilities doesnt matter then? The fact that he wins the duel no matter what nonsense he pulls off is more important than his combat abilities?
Even if we are to assume that he used some so called "dirty" tricks, his success in his duels matters more than that.
Aren't you being very contradictory there? First you argue how Revan did not cheat and solely relied on his combat abilities, now you argue how it doesn't matter that he pulled off any dirty tricks but that he wins the duel? You sir are a desperate idiot.
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDCombat prowess, then again we see his combat prowess in action unlike Revan.
How Grievous was such a formidable foe to Jedi despite being not one himself?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDNo ones arguing that Revan is NOT powerful, i am just questioning your idiotic rationale.
Revan's companions and even enemies contended that he was damn powerful and that is why he succeeded.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDOnce again you fool what ever Drew says isn't canon unless approved by lucasarts. If he said stuff like Revan wielded a blue lightsaber as a sith lord when actual canon material shows him wielding red, does it make Drews comment canon? No.
They might have been performing different roles. Drew however made it clear that only two companions followed Revan at a time and this is also the case in the game. Purpose was not to draw too much attention.
That and Drew was simply referring to the gameplay mechanics.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDRevan is YOUR favourite character and your fetish of course. I DO argue for my favourite character, but i don't go to great lengths as to try to lie and get desperate about winning a debate with lies.
Revan is one of my favorite fictional characters. Every one argues for his/her favorites. Or are you an exception?
It's a valiant effort, but you're wasting your time. S_W_Legend doesn't possess the ability to accept that Revan's specific combat capabilities are Unknown. I'm quite convinced that he's mapped out the entire game in his head and created his own scenarios.
Essentially, you're trying to convince a delusional loon that he shouldn't be delusional. There's no hope for him.
Originally posted by Lord LucienYou're right, why am i wasting time with this retarded dipshit who sniffs carpets.
It's a valiant effort, but you're wasting your time. S_W_Legend doesn't possess the ability to accept that Revan's specific combat capabilities are Unknown. I'm quite convinced that he's mapped out the entire game in his head and created his own scenarios.Essentially, you're trying to convince a delusional loon that he shouldn't be delusional. There's no hope for him.
P.S. Googling hen tai just got me a bunch of Ben 10 porn. O.o Pedophillia seems to be the word of the day gaiz!
Spoiler:
Naw, it was ****in' gross. I mean, Ben 10? Internet, whats wrong with you?!
Edit: Lol!
..... I think I need a shower. I'm starting to feel unclean.
