Wonder Woman vs Silver Surfer h2h

Started by ultimatethor20 pages
Originally posted by fangirl101
Is Surfer Stonger than Sun amped Superman? Or Amazo? Or Oblivion? This is the kind of strength it takes to put Wondy on the ropes physically. Konvict? Even then, She manages to sometimes overcome or last against these kinds of odds. Surfer Wont' be able to win in a hand to hand with Wondy.

This is going to be a very long fight. Surfer is much more durable than wonderwoman and she is going to get weak before he does. Not to mention he can heal himself from any damage inflicted.

Originally posted by Avlon
So, you're backing up SS but can't come up with a plausible example? Really?
Its obvious you havent read any Surfer and cant give me one example. You jus seem to know a fair amount about Superman. I already gave you an example of the Hulk. You havent given me one and you claimed you have read a lot about the Surfer.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Is Surfer Stonger than Sun amped Superman? Or Amazo? Or Oblivion? This is the kind of strength it takes to put Wondy on the ropes physically. Konvict? Even then, She manages to sometimes overcome or last against these kinds of odds. Surfer Wont' be able to win in a hand to hand with Wondy.
Supes was wrecking her physically. It was plain to see she couldnt take him on physically and had to trick him and rely on her skills. he was tearing her apart. Surfer would tear her apart as well.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
This is going to be a very long fight. Surfer is much more durable than wonderwoman and she is going to get weak before he does. Not to mention he can heal himself from any damage inflicted.

Healing himself wouldn't be a hand to hand would it. That would be adding in other powers. And Wondy can heal herself as well. Who says it would be that long of a fight if she's blocking all of his punches? It's not like surfer is some uber h2h fighter. He's probably one of the worst.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its obvious you havent read any Surfer and cant give me one example. You jus seem to know a fair amount about Superman. I already gave you an example of the Hulk. You havent given me one and you claimed you have read a lot about the Surfer.

It's obvious that you don't have anything substancial and that is why you want to bait me into a silly semantics war.

I'm still waiting for an example of Surfer besting someone comparable to WW h2h skill, speed, and strength in H2h.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes was wrecking her physically. It was plain to see she couldnt take him on physically and had to trick him and rely on her skills. he was tearing her apart. Surfer would tear her apart as well.

Except Surfer isn't Superman and this isn't a fight where he can use the PC to get out of a jam. Surfer's strength level isn't even on level to hurt WW.

Originally posted by Avlon
It's obvious that you don't have anything substancial and that is why you want to bait me into a silly semantics war.

I'm still waiting for an example of Surfer besting someone comparable to WW h2h skill, speed, and strength in H2h.

Except Surfer isn't Superman and this isn't a fight where he can use the PC to get out of a jam. Surfer's strength level isn't even on level to hurt WW.


You should realize that Surfer supporters will give him the win no matter what. Hell, this thread could have said, Surfer has no arms or legs against wondy, and his supporters would still give him the win.

Doesn't WW's link with Gaea also heal her damage? Her bracelets' passive protective ability absorbs impact damage to her person as well. Her amazon training also allows her to overcome pain.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Doesn't WW's link with Gaea also heal her damage? Her bracelets' passive protective ability absorbs impact damage to her person as well. Her amazon training also allows her to overcome pain.

Yeah. She's got this healing power that allows her to heal at a molecular rate. Even over coming molecular disruption should she chose to use it. But you know how that goes. She's a warrior first. I did notice in the Recent Khund story line, she let the lantern beat her face to a pulp, and couple pages later, she was healed or nearly healed.

Originally posted by Avlon
It's obvious that you don't have anything substancial and that is why you want to bait me into a silly semantics war.

I'm still waiting for an example of Surfer besting someone comparable to WW h2h skill, speed, and strength in H2h.

Except Surfer isn't Superman and this isn't a fight where he can use the PC to get out of a jam. Surfer's strength level isn't even on level to hurt WW.

Here are his powers according to marvel's official website. Pay close attention.

Powers
The Silver Surfer wields "the power cosmic", absorbing and manipulating the universe's ambient cosmic energies. He can augment his strength to incalculable levels, and is almost totally indestructible. He can navigate space, hyperspace and dimensional barriers, and can fly at near-limitless speeds on his board, entering hyperspace when he exceeds light speed. He has even proven capable of time travel on occasion. The Surfer does not require food, drink, air or sleep, sustained entirely by converting matter into energy. He is immune to temperature extremes and most radiation, and can survive in vacuum environments such as outer space and hyperspace. He can analyze and manipulate matter and energy, and restructure or animate matter at will, even transmuting elements. He can heal living beings (though he cannot raise the dead), and has proven capable of revitalizing or evolving organic life on a planet wide scale. He can alter the size of himself or of other matter, cast illusions, fire energy blasts, form and manipulate energy constructs, manipulate gravity, absorb and discharge most forms of energy, and phase through solid matter. His senses enable him to detect objects and energies light years away, and to perceive matter and energy in subatomic detail; he can even see through time, and with concentration can achieve limited perception of past and future events in his general vicinity. The Surfer has demonstrated limited telepathic ability on occasion, and has proven able to influence human emotion and sensation.

Gamora has exceptional skill and is considered to the deadliest woman in the universe but she couldnt beat Ronan who isnt on par with Surfer. Her strength still isnt enough to be able to take Superman on in a matchup. She was getting annihilated. She cant handle someone like the Silver Surfer. you obviously arent as familiar with him as you thought you were.

Nice dodge by the way.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Here are his powers according to marvel's official website. Pay close attention.

Powers
The Silver Surfer wields "the power cosmic", absorbing and manipulating the universe's ambient cosmic energies. He can augment his strength to incalculable levels, and is almost totally indestructible. He can navigate space, hyperspace and dimensional barriers, and can fly at near-limitless speeds on his board, entering hyperspace when he exceeds light speed. He has even proven capable of time travel on occasion. The Surfer does not require food, drink, air or sleep, sustained entirely by converting matter into energy. He is immune to temperature extremes and most radiation, and can survive in vacuum environments such as outer space and hyperspace. He can analyze and manipulate matter and energy, and restructure or animate matter at will, even transmuting elements. He can heal living beings (though he cannot raise the dead), and has proven capable of revitalizing or evolving organic life on a planet wide scale. He can alter the size of himself or of other matter, cast illusions, fire energy blasts, form and manipulate energy constructs, manipulate gravity, absorb and discharge most forms of energy, and phase through solid matter. His senses enable him to detect objects and energies light years away, and to perceive matter and energy in subatomic detail; he can even see through time, and with concentration can achieve limited perception of past and future events in his general vicinity. The Surfer has demonstrated limited telepathic ability on occasion, and has proven able to influence human emotion and sensation.

Gamora has exceptional skill and is considered to the deadliest woman in the universe but she couldnt beat Ronan who isnt on par with Surfer. Her strength still isnt enough to be able to take Superman on in a matchup. She was getting annihilated. She cant handle someone like the Silver Surfer. you obviously arent as familiar with him as you thought you were.

Nice dodge by the way.

Your reading comprehension is sorely in need of fine tuning. Let's go with the original post (although slightly modified later by the author) it still stands pretty well.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Diana has her standard eqipment and SS is off his board. Flight is banned so its a pure grounded h2h contest.

Nice bio by the way. Here's wonderwomans...godlike strength, speed, and invulnerability. Oh well, like a resume, everything sounds good on paper..including for Norrin and Wondy. 🙂

http://www.dccomics.com/media/_dcu/heroes_and_villains/origin_stories/wonder_woman/2.jpg

LOL at Ronan and Gamora.... we aren't talking about them. Guess you aren't familiar with the characters we actually are debating. Especially since Norrin doesn't hit or compare to Superman in the striking power and physical strength dept.

Nice try at a dodge and of course, your standard imflammatory comments meant to sidetrack the actual debate.

Still waiting on a real example of Surfer with incredible H2H against a Wonder Woman level opponent from you.

Originally posted by Avlon
Your reading comprehension is sorely in need of fine tuning.

Nice bio by the way. Here's wonderwomans...godlike strength, speed, and invulnerability. Oh well, like a resume, everything sounds good on paper..including for Norrin and Wondy. 🙂

http://www.dccomics.com/media/_dcu/heroes_and_villains/origin_stories/wonder_woman/2.jpg

LOL at Ronan and Gamora.... we aren't talking about them. Guess you aren't familiar with the characters we actually are debating. Especially since Norrin doesn't hit or compare to Superman in the striking power and physical strength dept.

Nice try at a dodge and of course, your standard imflammatory comments meant to sidetrack the actual debate.

Still waiting on a real example of Surfer with incredible H2H against a Wonder Woman level opponent from you.

Surfer has better feats though than WW. He hasnt been physically dominated like WW has before.

I am familiar with them but it seems you lack any knowledge about the Silver Surfer.

I dont think that the Surfer and Superman are that different when it comes to power punches. Both are above WW imo.

Surfer demonstrated excellent skill against the Hulk while weakened. Now who has WW hurt and beat hand to hand that is comparable to the Surfer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer has better feats though than WW. He hasnt been physically dominated like WW has before.

I am familiar with them but it seems you lack any knowledge about the Silver Surfer.

I dont think that the Surfer and Superman are that different when it comes to power punches. Both are above WW imo.

Surfer demonstrated excellent skill against the Hulk while weakened. Now who has WW hurt and beat hand to hand that is comparable to the Surfer.


Wonder Woman has beeb physically beaten by characters who are physically superior to Surfer. So how does your first statement have any merit? Aunt May hasn't been physically beaten either has she? Does that mean she can beat wonder Woman in a boxing match?

Your opinion of Surfer's punching power is backed up with what feats? How many times has surfer punched someone? Someone of high level durability and wondy's planet moving strength?

quick question: whats wonder woman going to do to silver surfer that will strong enough to overcome his cosmic durability?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Wonder Woman has beeb physically beaten by characters who are physically superior to Surfer. So how does your first statement have any merit? Aunt May hasn't been physically beaten either has she? Does that mean she can beat wonder Woman in a boxing match?

Your opinion of Surfer's punching power is backed up with what feats? How many times has surfer punched someone? Someone of high level durability and wondy's planet moving strength?

Ah the darthgoober tactic.

Which top tier has she beaten in combat?

Surfer has punched characters enough and can augment his strength to incalculable levels.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
quick question: whats wonder woman going to do to silver surfer that will strong enough to overcome his cosmic durability?

What feats do silver surfer have that he's going to be able to get around her skyfather level bracers, her Sun amped Superman punching durability, and best in the dc world mele fighting skills?

Originally posted by fangirl101
What feats do silver surfer have that he's going to be able to get around her skyfather level bracers, her Sun amped Superman punching durability, and best in the dc world mele fighting skills?
She was knocked out temporarily and was getting annihilated. She tricked and hid from Superman because she was getting her ass kicked. WW cant hang with the big boys imo. Surfer is one of them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its obvious you havent read any Surfer and cant give me one example. You jus seem to know a fair amount about Superman. I already gave you an example of the Hulk. You havent given me one and you claimed you have read a lot about the Surfer.
Supes was wrecking her physically. It was plain to see she couldnt take him on physically and had to trick him and rely on her skills. he was tearing her apart. Surfer would tear her apart as well.

Except clark has peak herald striking power,physical strength,speed and durability. He has exceptional MA skill and has been known to use all of these incredible attributes in h2h situations at superspeed all at once.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Except clark has peak herald striking power,physical strength,speed and durability. He has exceptional MA skill and has been known to use all of these incredible attributes in h2h situations at superspeed all at once.
yes and he pwned her easily. Surfer's durability is head and shoulders above hers imo. Either Supes or Surfer would beat her head in imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She was knocked out temporarily and was getting annihilated. She tricked and hid from Superman because she was getting her ass kicked. WW cant hang with the big boys imo. Surfer is one of them.

For different reasons, SS doesnt have Supes combat abilities otherwise he would have avoided a armbar from BP.

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes and he pwned her easily. Surfer's durability is head and shoulders above hers imo. Either Supes or Surfer would beat her head in imo.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
yes and he pwned her easily. Surfer's durability is head and shoulders above hers imo. Either Supes or Surfer would beat her head in imo.

Explain how he would win in a h2h situation...combat feats plz.