Originally posted by quanchi112
She was knocked out temporarily and was getting annihilated. She tricked and hid from Superman because she was getting her ass kicked. WW cant hang with the big boys imo. Surfer is one of them.
Annihilated? You must have missed all of the beating that she threw Supes way. He was trying to kill her. She was merely trying to restrain him. If by tricked, you mean used her superior intellect and strategy to out think him, then yes she did. Defeating Clark wouldn't have solved anything, and Diana realized this. That is why she went after Maxwell.
That also wasn't a straight H2H confrontation. Had it been, I think Diana would have been fairly confident that she could take Clark. She is a warrior, and this is the kind of fight in which she shines.
Originally posted by SasaraixxShe avoided him and got some some moves in. He was breaking her. If she would have stayed and fought him to the death she would have been murdered.
Annihilated? You must have missed all of the beating that she threw Supes way. He was trying to kill her. She was merely trying to restrain him. If by tricked, you mean used her superior intellect and strategy to out think him, then yes she did. Defeating Clark wouldn't have solved anything, and Diana realized this. That is why she went after Maxwell.That also wasn't a straight H2H confrontation. Had it been, I think Diana would have been fairly confident that she could take Clark. She is a warrior, and this is the kind of fight in which she shines.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Healing himself wouldn't be a hand to hand would it. That would be adding in other powers. And Wondy can heal herself as well. Who says it would be that long of a fight if she's blocking all of his punches? It's not like surfer is some uber h2h fighter. He's probably one of the worst.
Wonderwoman wont be blocking all of surfers punches. She will definitely get more in and wud receive less but SS durability which is head and shoulders above hers wud help him soak up the damage.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Wonderwoman wont be blocking all of surfers punches. She will definitely get more in and wud receive less but SS durability which is head and shoulders above hers wud help him soak up the damage.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Are u insane? A character like BP who has at best peak human strength being able to restrain a character like SS who is a high level class hundred and yet u think it is a usable feat? 😱
I don't think he was going about the actual hold...more like how sad Norrin looked when he tried to take on BP in h2h. He was woefully inadequate in that area.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I've never seen surfer's hands move fast enough to get past her defenses. I have seen her hands move fast enough to block every single one of his punches. He's not that skilled. I surmise in a hand to hand, she could simply side step most of his punches as he'd telegraph his moves. It's a reason why she's the best amazon ever. hand to hand is her thing. And her durability is right up there with the best of them in this particular arena.
Okay how often does she display this hand speed in direct physical confrontations? And her durability is pretty gud no doubt just not near SS'
Originally posted by The Great Galen
For different reasons, SS doesnt have Supes combat abilities otherwise he would have avoided a armbar from BP.
Originally posted by Badabing
I'm reopening the thread. Any more trouble and it's closed for good. I don't want to see any more low balling of feats, trolling, baiting, flaming or spamming. Supes and SS have high feats on a consistent basis. Any armbars or slower than bullet scans will be deleted and warnings dealt. Anyone I've spoken to or warned before will be subject to a temp ban. I can't be any more blunt.
Are you TRYING to get a warning or something?
A dependence upon low showings in discussion=Weak Debater.
Originally posted by fangirl101i knew you would try to reverse the question in avoidance....
What feats do silver surfer have that he's going to be able to get around her skyfather level bracers, her Sun amped Superman punching durability, and best in the dc world mele fighting skills?
but seriously, yes she is a better fighter but his cosmic glaze and empowerment by the power cosmic render him immune to anything she can do to him. (green scar hulk pounded away at a depowered silver surfer and he was ok)
and surfer can still supplant his musculature with cosmic energy ala champion.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
How is it low....ss doesnt have bp ma skill or combat speed so....
Originally posted by Red Hulk
Reported for trolling.I've seen you make this argument at least 3 times before, and everytime you've been proven wrong.
Originally posted by darthgooberGreat Galan, consider this a warning. Thanks.
Hasn't Bada already addressed your continuously citing that encounter in the past...Are you TRYING to get a warning or something?
A dependence upon low showings in discussion=Weak Debater.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Okay how often does she display this hand speed in direct physical confrontations? And her durability is pretty gud no doubt just not near SS'
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i knew you would try to reverse the question in avoidance....but seriously, yes she is a better fighter but his cosmic glaze and empowerment by the power cosmic render him immune to anything she can do to him. (green scar hulk pounded away at a depowered silver surfer and he was ok)
and surfer can still supplant his musculature with cosmic energy ala champion.
This is a hand to hand. Using his Cosmic anything to amp anything would be venturing outside of the h2h OP.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Just recently in JLA she blocked Ubermazo's heat vision enough effectively to cover the whole team. With her hands and wrist. So um yeah, Crazy hand speed.
As i suspected. A total misunderstanding of the posed question. HOW OFTEN DOES THIS HANDSPEED OF HERS APPEAR IN DIRECT PHYSICAL CONFRONTATIONS WITH OTHER BEINGS? I dont mean her blocking energy blasts. Heck surfer has blocked energy beams AFTER they ere fired before as well.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
As i suspected. A total misunderstanding of the posed question. [B]HOW OFTEN DOES THIS HANDSPEED OF HERS APPEAR IN DIRECT PHYSICAL CONFRONTATIONS WITH OTHER BEINGS? I dont mean her blocking energy blasts. Heck surfer has blocked energy beams AFTER they ere fired before as well. [/B]
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Surfer has hand to hand feats like this?
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