Wonderwoman versus Thor

Started by fangirl10121 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
Exactly, it's an unquantifiable feat. It's right up there with the time that Thor and Herc closed a rip in space by punching each others fists.

No. It's quantifiable. At least the force that the solar system generates. But at this stage of the game, who the hell can think that large. Once you get past so many zeros, I can't grasp anything to compare it to. Closing a rip in space isn't a lifting feat. It's a force generated by impact feat. Which is another kind of strength feat. Some people punch harder while yet being able to lift less than someone else. example. Namorita lifts more in New warriors while Rage hits harder.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. I said that if I were to say that she was just generating Ten percent of the .oooooooooooo1 Earth moving force, it would still be off the charts. The solar System's gravity well that works in unison with every other planets orbit to keep every planet in orbit is Out right nearly incomprehensible. Of course we know she contributed far more than 10 percent. Or she would be such a nusance to Superman in a fight.

Wait, what does her being able to give Superman a good fight have to do with us knowing that she contributed far more than 10 percent? are you claiming that you know exactly how much force Superman was generating?

If so please feel free to tell us exactly how much of Earth moving force each of the three were generating.

IIRC the Earth's orbital kinetic energy is around 1e33j, that's an order of magnitude higher than the energy to destroy it. Shifting the earth into a different orbit wouldn't take that much energy, but pulling it out of orbit/breaking its orbital momentum entirely would

Originally posted by fangirl101
I've already posted that flight has nothing to do with strength in DC. The characters actually do better standing around than flying. Check my example of the shield of Aegis.

An example that was thoroughly debunked.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
An example that was thoroughly debunked.

No. It wasn't. Not at all. certainly not by any of the dc/wonder woman haters. If someone more centered would have said I was off, I would have considered it. but from you or any of the obviously marvel biased posters, you might as well have said nothing anyone says about a dc characters means shit. You can say that. And I'll accept and respect that from you.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
IIRC the Earth's orbital kinetic energy is around 1e33j, that's an order of magnitude higher than the energy to destroy it. Shifting the earth into a different orbit wouldn't take that much energy, but pulling it out of orbit/breaking its orbital momentum entirely would

They weren't trying to pull it out of orbit.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. It's quantifiable. At least the force that the solar system generates. But at this stage of the game, who the hell can think that large. Once you get past so many zeros, I can't grasp anything to compare it to. Closing a rip in space isn't a lifting feat. It's a force generated by impact feat. Which is another kind of strength feat. Some people punch harder while yet being able to lift less than someone else. example. Namorita lifts more in New warriors while Rage hits harder.

Rage is a special case because his power increases with violent action. Thor and Herc have nothing like that going for them.

And it's NOT quantifiable because she had help and there's no telling what the writers were thinking in that instance or if they happened to have their calculators handy. If she's never received on panel credit as a planet mover by her lonesome then she's not, it's just that simple. By the same token, we can't credit Thor with the strength to be able to punch his way out of the Phantom Zone like SBP based off his and Herc's unreal punching feat.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. It wasn't. Not at all. certainly not by any of the dc/wonder woman haters. If someone more centered would have said I was off, I would have considered it. but from you or any of the obviously marvel biased posters, you might as well have said nothing anyone says about a dc characters means shit. You can say that. And I'll accept and respect that from you.

LOL. u are still sayin that trash? When i actually gave wonderwoman the win in this thread? You are a big joker 😂 . I completely answered and debunked ur nonsensical example. Whether u like it or not changes nothin.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Rage is a special case because his power increases with violent action. Thor and Herc have nothing like that going for them.

And it's NOT quantifiable because she had help and there's no telling what the writers were thinking in that instance or if they happened to have their calculators handy. If she's never received on panel credit as a planet mover by her lonesome then she's not, it's just that simple. By the same token, we can't credit Thor with the strength to be able to punch his way out of the Phantom Zone like SBP based off his and Herc's unreal punching feat.


We can't credit thor for moving the earth or anything as big or as massive at it either. But using logic, We can surmise that She was pulling roughly a third of the mass. Since She and Superman and MM are all listed in the same tier. Maybe Superman was pulling 40% She 35% and MM 25%. The numbers are so huge that the feat is still astronomical.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Rage is a special case because his power increases with violent action. Thor and Herc have nothing like that going for them.

Thor does. And I dare say that any one in comics have something similar going for them.

Originally posted by fangirl101
We can't credit thor for moving the earth or anything as big or as massive at it either. But using logic, We can surmise that She was pulling roughly a third of the mass. Since She and Superman and MM are all listed in the same tier. Maybe Superman was pulling 40% She 35% and MM 25%. The numbers are so huge that the feat is still astronomical.

So are you saying that Superman was generating 35% of Earth moving force in your example?

Originally posted by llagrok
Thor does. And I dare say that any one in comics have something similar going for them.

Since when? It's actually been established on panel Rage hits something like x4 harder than his strength should allow, when has that kind of thing ever been stated for Thor? I know he's got the Berserker Rage thing but it's not even for sure that Warrior Madness is the same thing(though I myself believe it to be) so at best we've seen it demonstrated 3 times over the entirety of his career. With Rage it's a day to day affair.

Originally posted by fangirl101
We can't credit thor for moving the earth or anything as big or as massive at it either. But using logic, We can surmise that She was pulling roughly a third of the mass. Since She and Superman and MM are all listed in the same tier. Maybe Superman was pulling 40% She 35% and MM 25%. The numbers are so huge that the feat is still astronomical.

I don't necessarily credit Thor with being strong enough to move the mass of the Earth so what's your point? For that matter I don't credit Superman as being strong enough either because I'VE NEVER SEEN IT. Pretty much all the feats Supes has to his credit that remotely suggest such a thing are flight aided and that throws far too much doubt on them.

We have no real indication of how much force she was exerting unless we trust that the writers were using their calculators to figure all this stuff out(and I for one DON'T) so it's not concrete proof of her being a planet mover.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Pretty much all the feats Supes has to his credit that remotely suggest such a thing are flight aided and that throws far too much doubt on them.

Pretty much.

We also have no idea whether or not one was doing more of the work than the others, and/or to what degree. Completely baseless.

Anyone's "percentages" listed for who did what are 100% based on nothing more that bull/conjecture...making their feat itself even less impressive for each of them, due to the fact that it was a shared feat.

At least the feats listed by Thor were pretty much his alone.