Original Human Torch VS. Wolverine, Beast, and Gambit

fight takes place in a room the size of the yankee stadium, with a roof. torch starts off in flight. the team has 30 minutes prep. who wins?

Originally posted by namorsubby
fight takes place in a room the size of the yankee stadium, with a roof. torch starts off in flight. the team has 30 minutes prep. who wins?

with 30 minutes prep? the team. Gambit charges the building for thirty minutes then detonates it, killing everyone except himself and wolverine, who regenerates.

seriously though, whats with all the jim hammond threads.

boredom mainly.

gambit's not allowed to kill any team-mates.

wouldn't jim notice the glowing building though. 😆

edit:

creative point BTW. 👆

Originally posted by namorsubby
boredom mainly.

gambit's not allowed to kill any team-mates.

wouldn't jim notice the glowing building though. 😆

Why not? Beast does have a healing factor, it just sucks in comparison to wolverine, sabertooth, etc. There's an EXTREMELY slim chance he might live through it. Besides, everyone knows Xmen just come back to life later anyway.

you said the TEAM gets 30 mins prep, not hammond. for all intents and purposes, hammond would be directly dropped in the middle of a fully charged building that explodes immediately.

edit: thanks for the kudos. it's the only reason i come here, to think of creative ways to argue silly things. 🙂

jim has a history of thriving in explosions. for instance an atom bomb explosion once rendered him more powerful instead of hurting him. and this:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/HeroesForHire12p21.jpg

oh, and jim hammond can generate fire forcefields strong enough to stop several exploding artillery rounds at the same time:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/marvelmystery0606-1.jpg

i'm not sure if you thought i was being sarcastic when i congratulated you on the creative point. i wasn't though. really.

i wonder who voted screw namorsubby.........it could be anybody 😆

Team.

I like when people talk these things out.

try being creative like Space M ummy

Human Torch should win this. Relace beast with cyclops and then the tables will turn. For right now he looks like he could take this. Unless the other team members can wait a whole hour till he runs out of energy............

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Team.

i think torch win if he can stay in the air.i think the team wins if gambit can floor him with an explosive. wolverine could get through some amount of his flame and end it.if OHT regains his composure before they are upon him though.......someone's getting fried.

Originally posted by Cavalier

I just do that because I don't like the Jim Hammond threads.

i believe they call that "trolling"

Originally posted by namorsubby
i believe they call that "trolling"

Don't get your panties in a twist.

I can back it up with reasoning if you like. 🙂

you do that.

X-Men have two people that can end the fight in a couple shots. And all of the X-Men are super agile, so HT would have trouble targeting any one of them to hurt, much less all three. And while he wastes time targeting one, another hits him from behind.

Tactics/Teamwork ftw.

I'm pretty sure Wolverine and Gambit could win this on their own.

People seem to forget just because Wolverine heals he can live through it all. Thats wrong Wolverine feels pain just like you and I. He will probably try not to get next to Human Torch when he's a few thouands degrees. Reason being if you take a metal rod and heat it up and put it on your skin it hurt right? You can't stop the pain. Imagine your whole skeleton is metal and burning at hundreds of degrees hurting you from the inside out. He can't stop the pain all he can do is wait till it cools off. Thats no fun. So Wolverine probably won't try to get close to him.

X-Men have two people that can end the fight in a couple shots. And all of the X-Men are super agile, so HT would have trouble targeting any one of them to hurt, much less all three. And while he wastes time targeting one, another hits him from behind.

Tactics/Teamwork ftw.

I'm pretty sure Wolverine and Gambit could win this on their own.

1)torch has superspeed well above any of their's in the air. if he can catch and target a jet plane, or numerous planes at a time, i'm sure he could catch them.

2) how will they get to him besides gambit? torch still has the shield going for him though.and like i said, torch seems to thrive in explosions anyway.his flame also makes him super-durable:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/Invaders_32-03.jpg

3) torch can concentrate his flame in all directions. and with a flame hot enough to melt ironman and burn namor, who here is gonna endure it?:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/Invaders40_16.jpg

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oh, and if you think gambit is one of those people who can end this in a couple of shots. ask yourself, is a kinectically charged card from gambit stronger than the explosive force of an artillery shell? or this?:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/humantorch03-40.jpg

Originally posted by kakuzu
People seem to forget just because Wolverine heals he can live through it all. Thats wrong Wolverine feels pain just like you and I. He will probably try not to get next to Human Torch when he's a few thouands degrees. Reason being if you take a metal rod and heat it up and put it on your skin it hurt right? You can't stop the pain. Imagine your whole skeleton is metal and burning at hundreds of degrees hurting you from the inside out. He can't stop the pain all he can do is wait till it cools off. Thats no fun. So Wolverine probably won't try to get close to him.

Originally posted by jinzin

(MODERN)
(*repeat*)Rogues body starts taking on the physical characteristics of verious people she's toched throughout the years. She formulates Wolverine's claws and tells him that it's the worst pain she's ever felt; We find that Wolverine ALWAYS has to endure unbelievable pain with his claws and his HF is always working on the cuts they make inside his arms as a result of them being sheathed.
1. http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3641/clawshurthp7.jpg
2. http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4749/clawshurt2cr6.jpg

We aren't given to much info or context on how Wolverine ended up like this, but Wolverine explains his methods for dealing with pain while his healing factor tried to patch him up; He displays fairly impressive of both the human anatomy and psycology:
1. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4396/pain11wvep6.gif
2. http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2420/pain20hizh0.gif
3. http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5263/pain31teai3.gif
4. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7796/pain48syqv0.gif
5. http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8691/pain54hstn5.gif
6. http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/396/pain60voqh2.gif
7. http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/82/pain78sikz7.gif
8. http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5428/pain87noow5.gif
9. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2854/pain96igsp9.gif
10. http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5413/pain105hfib7.gif
11. http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2073/pain118iijg1.gif

oh, and torch is not just faster in flight. he can run/move at superhuman speeds on the ground while ignited:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/mm003-08.jpg

BTW:gambit has peak human speed when charged, not superhuman.