Original Human Torch VS. Wolverine, Beast, and Gambit

Started by Cavalier5 pages

Originally posted by namorsubby
BTW:gambit has peak human speed when charged, not superhuman.
But superhuman agility.

oh, and concering wolverine. let's look at this "logically":

if torch incinerates him.......there's going to be nothing left but that skeleton. so he's done

gambit:

"As a result, his mutation has increased his body's innate physical qualities ( such as speed, reflexes/reactions, stamina, agility, flexibility, dexterity, coordination, balance, and endurance) to the very limit of natural human capability"

Originally posted by namorsubby
1)torch has superspeed well above any of their's in the air. if he can catch and target a jet plane, or numerous planes at a time, i'm sure he could catch them.
That was never in question.

He still has to catch three of them individually while the others are completely active.

Originally posted by namorsubby
2) how will they get to him besides gambit? torch still has the shield going for him though.and like i said, torch seems to thrive in explosions anyway.his flame also makes him super-durable:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/Invaders_32-03.jpg
Wolverine will stab him.

Beast will... throw something at him? Or just distract him.

Originally posted by namorsubby
3) torch can concentrate his flame in all directions. and with a flame hot enough to melt ironman and burn namor, who here is gonna endure it?:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/Invaders40_16.jpg

That doesn't show him using flame in all directions.

Originally posted by namorsubby
oh, and if you think gambit is one of those people who can end this in a couple of shots. ask yourself, is a kinectically charged card from gambit stronger than the explosive force of an artillery shell? or this?:
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/humantorch03-40.jpg
Yes.

Originally posted by namorsubby
gambit:

"As a result, his mutation has increased his body's innate physical qualities ( such as speed, reflexes/reactions, stamina, agility, flexibility, dexterity, coordination, balance, and endurance) to the very limit of natural human capability"

Congratulations on your ability to quote a bio.

Anyways, I'm done here.

namorsubby if your not gonna give the benefit of the doubt to the opposing team feats, what the point of making this thread?

Originally posted by Cavalier
That was never in question.

He still has to catch three of them individually while the others are completely active.

Wolverine will stab him.

Beast will... throw something at him? Or just distract him.

That doesn't show him using flame in all directions.

Yes.

he still runs/moves/flys at superhuman speeds.

i guess you have no idea how many pounds of explosive force an artillery shell has. more than a single card from gambit, that's for sure.

wolverine will stab him? in the sky? what's he's gonna do, jump? 😆
really, gambit's cards are the only thing that could reach him in flight......and only to a certain point.

that scan does show him using flame in all directions. 2 planes explode and the debris went all over flying towards the ground. he incinerated it all.

Before I put the pwned sign over my head lets look back to some other times. Before this lets compare two things. I was already aware of the claws and how they always heart going out and coming back in. Thing about your entire body being burning, and to make it worse your own bones are still heated meaning you can't escape the pain. Which is worse a few seconds of pain from your claws coming out of smelling your skin burn as your bones keep hurting it from the inside?

Now back in some recent comics, Wolverine didn't cope to well with pain. Remember when Hulk explained to him what happens to a boxer? Yeah Wolverine was suffering beyond belief.

How about when Magneto pulled all his metal from his bones out of his skin? Wolverine wasn't coping to with with that either. So it really depends on what level of pain when Wolverine won't do something. Remember when his own son ripped his stomach open? Yeah that time he didn't cope to well either.

So Wolverine won't act like the fire burning away at him is nothing. Just think back to when Nitro exploded next to him.

Originally posted by vansonbee
namorsubby if your not gonna give the benefit of the doubt to the opposing team feats, what the point of making this thread?
huh?

i don't understand. i said if gambit floors them they could win, and wolverine could endure some flame, but i don't really understand what you mean when you say i'm not giving them "the benefit of the doubt".

Originally posted by namorsubby
huh?

i don't understand. i said if gambit floors them they could win, and wolverine could endure some flame, but i don't really understand what you mean when you say i'm not giving them "the benefit of the doubt".

Means I hate you 😈 .

lolz jk

you voted "screw namorsubby", didn't you? 😆

Originally posted by namorsubby
you voted "screw namorsubby", didn't you? 😆
No! That a waste of a good vote*

I went with team. Behalf of everyone on forum, SCREW NAMORSUBBY everyday! 😂

i would've voted screw namorsubby if i was anyone here. really, i'd hate myself if i wasn't me..........good thing i am though, it gives me an excuse to love myself. 😄

Originally posted by Cavalier
Anyways, I'm done here.
👆

you know at least one thing.

Originally posted by namorsubby
oh, and torch is not just faster in flight. he can run/move at superhuman speeds on the ground while ignited:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/mm003-08.jpg

BTW:gambit has peak human speed when charged, not superhuman.

Your opinion on it doesn't really matter. On-panel, Gambit's shown low-level superhuman speed...pretty much always.

Gambit's projectiles can take Jim out.

Beast can fastball special Wolverine into Jim.

While he's distracted trying to attack Gambit and Wolverine, Beast could climb up the stadium and sneak attack Jim. Teamwork at it's best.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Your opinion on it doesn't really matter. On-panel, Gambit's shown low-level superhuman speed...pretty much always.

Gambit's projectiles can take Jim out.

Beast can fastball special Wolverine into Jim.

While he's distracted trying to attack Gambit and Wolverine, Beast could climb up the stadium and sneak attack Jim. Teamwork at it's best.

so jim's fiery aura can render him invulnerable to artillery shells and he has a history of thriving in explosions..........but gambit can still take him out?

with more than a few cards, and without jim making a forcefield(why wouldn't he), yeah, i agree.

so beast is going to throw wolverine fast enough to hit torch in flight when he has outmanuevered planes and is faster than a jet? what's to stop jim from putting up a shield or smacking him back into the ground with a fire ball? he smacked namor, who can actually fly and is much more resistance/durable into the water with a fireball:http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/Invaders_41_28.gif

nice little scenario.that is creative, but torch is not gonna be distracted so long that that would work.hell, can you even explain how beast jumps on him and doesn't get scroched?

Originally posted by Metalmanx

Beast can fastball special Wolverine into Jim.

no. he can't.

Colossus can because he's CL100.

Beast isn't even close.

consider me a tailor.........because i've got this sewn up. 😖mart: 😉

Jim gets raped here. Gambit? Wolverine? Beast? Wolvie and Gambit could more than likely solo the fight.