Ryu and Ken's master, Gouken

Started by Sado229 pages

Jinpachi

a while back certain folks were comparing Silver with Gouki cuz they looked similiar in terms of skin and similar hair style (though spiked is one thing, fiery and ponytailed is another). wonder what SFboys will say now... 🙄

Originally posted by Man of Violence
You do know that Gouken and his image has existed long before Tekken 5 so it's actually the other way around if you wanna call it.

It isent. Im talking about how Gouken is depicted currently in SF IV, wich isent how he was depicted before. Even the pose is alike in both character`s art, with Grandpa Jinpachi. Everybody can spot the similarities.

Werent some of you claiming Silver to be a "rip off" because in KOF XI he "looked similiar to Asuma", despite the fact that, there are differences, and it wasent even the design that the character was created as?

Werent some of you claiming Silver to be a "rip off" because in KOF XI he "looked similiar to Asuma", despite the fact that, there are differences, and it wasent even the design that the character was created as?

when it comes to SF ripoff is something done only by other games.
even though "Crimson Ripoff" is a sad Vanessa-wannabe.
even if Takuma came before Akuma and gouken.
even if AoF was made by the same guy.
even if Haohmaru is actually based off Musashi.
even if Roy Bromwell is blatant Terry ripoff
even if the idea of supers is something that has been rippedoff from SNK
etc etc etc

"Avengers" + "karate Champ" = SF + AOF.

You have the basics of both games, there.

Originally posted by Snafu the Great
I second that. Capcom took Gouken's present appearance from a SF manga (you can find it at Borders) in which Bison killed Gouken, not Akuma.
When did this manga come out?
Originally posted by Sado22
even if Roy Bromwell is blatant Terry ripoff
Didn't you say Capcom said he was a homage?

Originally posted by I-Drop
When did this manga come out? Didn't you say Capcom said he was a homage?

The manga came out in the early 90s, give or take.

Didn't you say Capcom said he was a homage?

that's what Emp told me 🙂

people said :

Ryo = ripoff (not true since it's created by the same person)
Roy = homage

really... what makes capcom so special?

really... what makes capcom so special?

universal stupidity.

M Bison (Vega) confronts Gouken. From the manga I mentioned.

Remember this gag from EGM a few years back?

And I thought the RE2 gag with Akuma was bad.

That pic shows where the ponytail's from.

Originally posted by Sado22
universal stupidity.
Now you're just being a dickhead, Sado. It's no secret that Capcom's always liked/respected Terry(because they're insane 🙂 ). He even gets mentioned by some lil' fanboy in the CVS2 ending for EVERYBODY. I may decide to go check on what Emp said, but Roy seems like an homage to me. Kriz already knows he ain't proven Ryu & ripoff were made by the same person so he can go somewhere w/that bullshit. Roy has some things from Terry & some from Ken. Take away what makes ripoff a ripoff & you got a nameless, faceless guy w/around 2 moves. Oh yeah, I forgot that he's also @ss naked except for the gay lil' shirt he wears under the gi.

Takuma/Gouki was refuted like hell & it was a dumbass idea from the start. Even the "evidence" you posted had no mention of even the slightest connection between the 2. Fuk outta here w/that bullshit, Sado. Even your banned buddy didn't agree w/you on that stupidity.

I wish MOV hadn't started slinging this rip shit around because now the haters have to go & drum up shit in response to MOV's shit.

This pose Oly speaks of is a famous MA pose IIRC. There's like 2 statues that are mainly together & one poses like that & the other poses kind of like an opposite. I'll look for some pix. I think I've seen Gouki in one of those poses b4. Gouken wears a andre the giant type thing & 'Pachi is shirtless. IIRC there's a gouki art that came out w/him dressed similar to jinpachi b4 pachi even existed. Gouken ain't a rip. Compare what he's got similar to 'Pachi to what ripoff has w/Ken & Ryu. Come on now people & also consider that the person who started this Gouken/"pachi shit has been wrong about damn near everything since he got back here. 😄

If you really think Gouken's a rip, it should be discussed elsewhere. Not in a Gouken Respect thread. Show some class people.

Originally posted by Sado22
Jinpachi

a while back certain folks were comparing Silver with Gouki cuz they looked similiar in terms of skin and similar hair style (though spiked is one thing, fiery and ponytailed is another). wonder what SFboys will say now... 🙄

You really suck at this. You should leave and go join the NeoGeo forums. 😆 😂 🤣

Originally posted by I-Drop
I wish MOV hadn't started slinging this rip shit around because now the haters have to go & drum up shit in response to MOV's shit.
My bad and I even went back and said I didn't really mean Silber was a rip that he was just LIKE Akuma.

But I mean really, I made 1 comment in 1 thread that I manage to keep in just that thread and the fanbois/haters go crazy across the whole damn forum. I mean these dudes are too sensitive for
fictional beings they will never meet in real life. 😆

If I had known that it would get this outta hand I woulda never said it, seriously. Peeps take this shit too serious, I hope they get payed for playin these games.

@I-Drop : even Sado and olympian had no idea how to prove that he's no ripoff to you(according to you). I'm not making an excuses, but I decided I won't pour any more energy to give you any more evidence since you won't understand my words and this is not benefit me at all..

I call bullshit. It's a done deal. I asked you if you'd proven it 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt & you couldn't give me a simple "yes or no" that I asked you for. You didn't because you know all you've done is show that 2 mofos worked on both games & left the rest up to HEAVY assumption. There was a gang of other mofos listed under character design. Everybody who knows me knows I'm not really into assumption. It's the mother of all fukups & I definately ain't about to make one for ripoff's benefit. Anybody got something saying some dude created both Ryu & ripoff? Because until I see something saying just that, the guy's name is ripoff SUCK @SS AKI. & after I see that.....he's rehash suckassaki 😄 If you ain't got real proof, I'd rather not hear shit else about it. I really don't know why they'd have created Dan if they didn't see ripoff & crew as ripoffs

posted by me :

no. both of them are made by the same person. finish Hiroshi was a planner and then he became an E director. he planned everything on that game so it means designs are included and no one would ripped off his own idea.

with that I thought you'll understand it's a yes or no. but it seems or you it's just a simple no. I already shown you 3 sources but you still doesn't want to understand. he likes karate gi so he designed Ryu to have a karate style and planned a game which has a main character who has a karate style(AOF).

Posted by me

Originally posted by I-Drop
I call bullshit.

...up to you.

M Bison (Vega) confronts Gouken. From the manga I mentioned.

and he looks NOTHING like what he is today. neither does the EGM gag thing look anything like he is today. the former, he looks like Chang Koehan if he lost weight. as for the latter, he looks like a retard....but NOTHING like present day Gouken. in fact, people keep on mentioning how Gouki is based off Gouken but even then, Gouki STILL looks nothing like Gouken of the manga. what bull!

You really suck at this. You should leave and go join the NeoGeo forums.

says Man on Viagra 😆

~Sado