Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlYou denied you said it. I mean its a page back. You are twisting what I said like usual.
Nah. Quan was being a troll. Twisting arguments to suit his needs. arguing against my argument in one thread, and using my very same argument in another thread to suit his needs. He needed to shut the **** up.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nah. Quan was being a troll. Twisting arguments to suit his needs. arguing against my argument in one thread, and using my very same argument in another thread to suit his needs. He needed to shut the **** up.
The dastardly nvr throws something of a curve by using an entirely different excuse than the one our hero had predicted. Nevertheless, the damage was done and the egg is more than apparent on nvr's face.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um. As someone already stated, Wonder woman has stood up to a sun amped superman,
Thereby drastically damaging the impressiveness of a sun amp.
superman lite, Glads isn't going to be getting any major wins over her.
The problem with your logic--and believe me, I'm using the term loosely--is that the notion of Gladiator as "Superman-lite" is not self evident. You would first need to demonstrate why Gladiator is less powerful than Superman before using it as a fact in your argument.
I'll start you off simply.
Give me one good reason to think Wonder Woman could contend with the type of combat speed seen above.
Originally posted by KK the Great
I'll start you off simply.Give me one good reason to think Wonder Woman could contend with the type of combat speed seen above.
If you want an even more direct comparison, there's Gladiator knocking Thor out with ease, in short order.
Which Superman couldn't duplicate, even under Busiek. He could barely stand at the end of the fight.
Originally posted by B.A
I can see Gladiator winning.But KK just leave. Quan just...well do the same.
Beides hell yeah she can keep up with that speed, especially if Thor can.
Except Thor's been shown to be unable of dealing with Gladiator's speed when he bothers to use it, and the time dilation devices coming into play the other time.
Originally posted by B.A
I can see Gladiator winning.But KK just leave. Quan just...well do the same.
Nah, I think I'll stay and continue raising the mean IQ of this place by almost 30% simply with my presence.
Beides hell yeah she can keep up with that speed, especially if Thor can.
Thor is operating under a device that removes him from the time-dilating effect present in the Shi'ar galaxy. While the heroes from Earth have been there for two weeks by their perspective, so little time has passed for the Shi'ar that spaceships appear to have been frozen in place the entire time.
Gladiator matched them with sheer speed in spite of being under the effects of the time dilation. He kept up that level of speed for the entire issue.
Originally posted by KK the Great
Nah, I think I'll stay and continue raising the mean IQ of this place by almost 30% simply with my presence.Thor is operating under a device that removes him from the time-dilating effect present in the Shi'ar galaxy. While the heroes from Earth have been there for two weeks by their perspective, so little time has passed for the Shi'ar that spaceships appear to have been frozen in place the entire time.
Gladiator matched them with sheer speed in spite of being under the effects of the time dilation. He kept up that level of speed for the entire issue.
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Not only are you one of the jokes at Herochat your one of the jokes here. Your not as clever as you think. The only IQ you have raised is maybe yourself after seeing some facts people have posted here.
WW has some very impressive speed feats. The fact is everyone at HC hates her and had her losing to Cheetah or whoever the hell it was.
Quan and KK = Tweedledum and Tweedledee.
Originally posted by Faceman
Cool you'll like the scans...Problem with Gladiator is he's written too inconsistent. One day he's destroying planets and another , well slugging it out with Colossus. I still would give fully confident Gladiator a slight advantage over the Amazon...
Good points.
Gladiator is written quite inconsistently, as you pointed out, and it makes ranking his placement a little hard at times.
Why?
Because in some showings he is basically at nigh Pre-crisis Superman levels, while in other showings he is getting manhandled by Cannonball and Colossus, or not managing to outfly a tidal wave (when in other cases he is flying many times faster than lightspeed).
In many ways it is even worse than the Sentry (where at one point he is supposed to be the epitome of power, and then some time later he cannot even hold up a helicarrier solo).
As for his 'confidence' issue, I also think it is taken too far (as in he loses confidence and suddenly Jubilee can take him on). The fact is that he is the head of the most elite corps in one of the most advanced empires in the Marvel Universe (unless the Shiar have been retconned), and he has been quite successful at that. Thus his confidence levels should be pretty high, and should only falter if he faces a truly powerful character (way above Herald level, for example), and thus he should be more than alright against the Cannoballs and Colossi of the comicbook universe. Yet it seems like he is written with a confidence level looser than loose.
Gladiator is one character who is made to job so often.
Originally posted by B.A
Not only are you one of the jokes at Herochat your one of the jokes here. Your not as clever as you think.
Is it possible that I've sold myself short?
After all, apparently not everyone knows how to contract you and are into you're.
WW has some very impressive speed feats.
Good for her.
So does Spider-Man.
So does the Flash.
So does Batgirl.
So does Quicksilver.
Have you ever been introduced to the concept of degree?
Originally posted by spetznaz
Good points.Gladiator is written quite inconsistently, as you pointed out, and it makes ranking his placement a little hard at times.
Why?
Because in some showings he is basically at nigh Pre-crisis Superman levels, while in other showings he is getting manhandled by Cannonball and Colossus, or not managing to outfly a tidal wave (when in other cases he is flying many times faster than lightspeed).
This isn't a matter of inconsistency so much as it is the character being created as one thing and turned into an entirely different thing by a later writer.
Claremont used him as little more than nameless fodder in a cape early on. Then Byrne got hold of him, beefed up his powers, gave him some characterization, and essentially created the character as he has been portrayed since.
There's also the issue of you having obviously not read most of the comics you're citing.
Getting manhandled by Colossus and Cannonball?
Neither of those characters have ever manhandled Gladiator. Far from it.
As for his 'confidence' issue, I also think it is taken too far (as in he loses confidence and suddenly Jubilee can take him on). The fact is that he is the head of the most elite corps in one of the most advanced empires in the Marvel Universe (unless the Shiar have been retconned), and he has been quite successful at that. Thus his confidence levels should be pretty high, and should only falter if he faces a truly powerful character (way above Herald level, for example), and thus he should be more than alright against the Cannoballs and Colossi of the comicbook universe. Yet it seems like he is written with a confidence level looser than loose.
You're not using your powers of reasoning here at all.
Which of the following scenarios would be a bigger blow to your confidence?
1) You punch a professional boxer as hard as you can and he smiles back at you.
2) You punch your four-year-old cousin as hard as you can and he smiles back at you.
