PC Superman runs a Gauntlet

Originally posted by Priest
Sure bring up one PIS event written by Hudlin, the same comic in which Galactus reached "full power"..
PC Superman power was all over the place, very inconsistent...But K-nite weakness was always consistent in all PC books.

Don't get so mad. I was just kidding. Like I said, I just think PC Supes would butt-rape a simpering sissy like the SS into the Phantom zone. You think that the Surfer would magically use his "Cosmic Awareness" to learn Superman's weakness (even though he's from a completely different reality) and use it sucessfully against him. We disagree. I won't bring up the Black Panther thing again. Racist. 😄

Originally posted by tsscls
PC Supes was so overpowered, I don't see many modern characters that could take him. Light speed fast, insanely intelligent, and sort of a dick. So Surfer hits him with some K, big deal. He rubs his hands together, then says some crazy, off the wall shit like, "The friction created by my hands will allow me to pluck on the superstrings of the cosmic brane, thereby allowing me to create an infinite number of realities that I can explore at Super speed and find the perfect way to beat my Silver foe!" And then he'd do it and win and drop the Surfer in a black hole. And that's not PIS, that's just how PC Supes rolled. Insanely overpowered.

PC Superman was indeed very powerful compare to his current incarnations, but he lack depth to his character, post Superman doesn't have weakness to k-nite anymore. Where PC weakness is shown every comic he ever appear in*

Silver surfer very durable, can generate k-nite and starts with slow butt rape*

Thanos o dear, manipulate Superman to kill Lois and then he commits suicide* 😈 He could beat superman other ways.

Thor might have chance* thanks to his warrior madness and power gem, no limits! PC have problems with magic if I remember.

Originally posted by tsscls
Don't get so mad. I was just kidding. Like I said, I just think PC Supes would butt-rape a simpering sissy like the SS into the Phantom zone. You think that the Surfer would magically use his "Cosmic Awareness" to learn Superman's weakness (even though he's from a completely different reality) and use it sucessfully against him. We disagree. I won't bring up the Black Panther thing again. Racist. 😄

Originally posted by vansonbee
That was nonsense shit, enjoyed your assuming and what nots.

"Why thanks, I love compliments!"

PC Superman was indeed very powerful compare to his current incarnations, but he lack depth to his character, post Superman doesn't have weakness to k-nite anymore. Where PC weakness is shown every comic he ever appear in*

"I believe that PC Superman had a very deep character that was fleshed out over about 20-30 years, depending on your opinion of when the "Silver Age" started."

Silver surfer very durable, can generate k-nite and starts with slow butt rape*

"While I agree that SS is very durable, I have problems with him just creating K-nite off the bat, and utilizing against a character like PC Supes in a way that gurantees him a win. I also doubt that Surfer would "start" with a slow butt rape. I think, given his past performances, he would give at least 20 minutes of foreplay before attempting full, homosexual anal penetration. How crude of you to assume otherwise."

Thanos o dear, manipulate Superman to kill Lois and then he commits suicide* 😈 He could beat superman other ways.

"I'm not going to touch Thanos. That's Quanch's job."

Thor might have chance* thanks to his warrior madness and power gem, no limits! PC have problems with magic if I remember.

"Vikings are Swedish. It's a well known fact that all Swedes are pussies. In Thor's hands, PG=Pussy Gem. Plus he's blonde. And he carries a hammer. I wouldn't let a Blonde, Swedish carpenter near any of my home improvement projects, because I'm nearly 100% sure he'd build a huge wooden anus in my back yard. All of my neighbors would then make fun of me. That makes me sad! 🙁"

Stops at 1, 2 , 3 , 4, and 5

Originally posted by tsscls
Don't get so mad. I was just kidding. Like I said, I just think PC Supes would butt-rape a simpering sissy like the SS into the Phantom zone. You think that the Surfer would magically use his "Cosmic Awareness" to learn Superman's weakness (even though he's from a completely different reality) and use it sucessfully against him. We disagree. I won't bring up the Black Panther thing again. Racist. 😄

gladiator is marvel's pre-crisis superman/superboy.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Supes's weakness against K-nite falls into the category of "basic knowledge". Surfer doesn't have to use his Cosmic Awareness to find out about it out because he begins the fight with the info...

All right. You got me. Everyone knows that PC Supes doesn't stand a chance in hell against any of these characters.
He was a pussy.
That K-nite thing was always too much for him to overcome, which is why Action Comics ended it's run back in the forties. He was a slow, short, fat, bald man named Stan who lived in Hoboken, NJ with his mother.
Actually, he moved into a two bedroom apartment with Hal Jordan and Bruce Wayne in the sixties. They couldn't overcome their weaknesses to the color yellow and anything that could kill you or me, respectively.
Whatever, PC Supes was a beast. He could take this whole team on at once, while wearing a K-nite diaper.

Originally posted by Juntai
Is the compositional makup of Kryptonite?
Or the fact that it's the radiation and not the rock itself?

It's from a planet in a universe different from his that no longer exists. When DCU matter transmutators tried this against S-Prime during IC, it didn't work. How would SS get the right frequency of radiation, given this fact and the mryiad of possibilities found throughout the spectrum?
They must read Action Comics.

Originally posted by tsscls
It's from a planet in a universe different from his that no longer exists. When DCU matter transmutators tried this against S-Prime during IC, it didn't work. How would SS get the right frequency of radiation, given this fact and the mryiad of possibilities found throughout the spectrum?
They must read Action Comics.

Originally posted by Juntai
It also didn't work when Bruce tried to use kyrptonite itself on Earth 2 Superman.

Exactly,
There seems to be a fundamental difference in the compostion of the isotope that is tied directly to the harmonic frequency of the reality from which it comes . When that reality is destroyed or altered, it becomes difficult or impossible to replicate, which removes it from the realm of "common knowledge." Unless SS has some weird-ass "destroyed alternate-reality isotope finding cosmic awareness" that no one has known about before now, he can't use it.

Wouldnt cosmic awareness allow him to replicate it though? Just asking.

Originally posted by tkitna
Wouldnt cosmic awareness allow him to replicate it though? Just asking.

Absolutely not. Under no circumstances!!!! I want scans. Now!!
Seriously, I have no clue. I'm saying no just to further my point.

Originally posted by Juntai
Is the compositional makup of Kryptonite?
Or the fact that it's the radiation and not the rock itself?

Originally posted by tsscls
It's from a planet in a universe different from his that no longer exists. When DCU matter transmutators tried this against S-Prime during IC, it didn't work. How would SS get the right frequency of radiation, given this fact and the mryiad of possibilities found throughout the spectrum?
They must read Action Comics.

"The fight takes place in a neutral universe, not the current DC universe. If Surfer creates K-nite using Cosmic Awareness to pick up details on his opponent's weakness it's not going to pick up a frequency that's useless, it would pick up the frequency that works."

That arguement sounds as silly as my harmonic vibration BS. How could Surfer usurp the abilities of those from one omniverse (Green Lanterns, Firestorm, etc.) just by being in a neutral universe?

"Composition I'd say no(but that could be found out via Cosmic Awareness). It being radiation would be yes IMO. Supes is the most popular hero on DC Earth and too many of his battles have ended up featured on the news for people not to know the basics."

So SS gets to read the news in this "neutral" universe? How about we say he can't use K-nite unless he accidently stumbles upon it?

Originally posted by tsscls
That arguement sounds as silly as my harmonic vibration BS. How could Surfer usurp the abilities of those from one omniverse (Green Lanterns, Firestorm, etc.) just by being in a neutral universe?

Originally posted by tsscls
So SS gets to read the news in this "neutral" universe? How about we say he can't use K-nite unless he accidently stumbles upon it?

"Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not ."

He starts off the fight knowing about Supes's weakness. Once the match starts it's just a matter of using his Cosmic Awareness to determine the proper frequency.

Stopped cold at 3.

Clears it

Originally posted by darthgoober
How would he be usurping abilities from other characters? All he's doing is recreating a frequency of radiation and that's as much a part of his powerset as it is GL or Firestorm. Radioactive Man was about to recreate it just fine and Surfer's feats involving the manipulation of energy trump RM's by a fair share.

Surfer gets basic knowledge as per Forum Rules, and K-nite is specifically mentioned,,,

"Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. [B]For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not ."

He starts off the fight knowing about Supes's weakness. Once the match starts it's just a matter of using his Cosmic Awareness to determine the proper frequency. [/B]

Basic knowledge would be that Superman is vulnerable to K-Nite.
Consider if you were from a different universe where turnips didn't exist.
If I gave you the basic knowledge that I hated turnips, that would equate to this. You might be able to look around my universe and eventually find out what turnips were. You might be able to procure seeds and grow them, but not even with matter manipulating powers and cosmic awareness, (whatever that is) would you be able to instantly produce a turnip. It's not within your abilities.