Originally posted by tsscls
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=447673&highlight=pc+superman+forumid%3A98Sort through this. I am. I love Curt Swan. Nostalgia is a wonderful thing.
Wow, you already looked through it? You're super-smart. I already did too, but it was so I'm giving it another go through.
PC supes clears this four times without sweating.
Originally posted by llagrok
I'm sorry.Your scans simply don't measure up, there's no proof that Surfer would be able to discover the weakness of someone he's just met without getting into a brief skirmish.
You're reaching at this point...
Originally posted by tsscls
It's from a planet in a universe different from his that no longer exists. When DCU matter transmutators tried this against S-Prime during IC, it didn't work.
To clarify, SMP doesn't have a K-nite weakness. His Krypton was swallowed by the native Red Sun - no Kryptonite to be weak against.
And actually, I think FP Gladiator would give PC Supes a better fight than Sentry would. A lot better of a fight.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I saw it when it was created...
Oh, you're quite the old-schooler aren't you? I don't know, I read through that thread again. I think I might re-read through the SS and Thanos respect threads too, but I don't think I'll change my mind. PC Supes was a crazy-ass, ghetto-beast. JMHO.
Oh and I changed my mind, PC Supes vs Surfer goes back to 10/10.
Supes clears it easily.
Originally posted by tsscls
Oh, you're quite the old-schooler aren't you? I don't know, I read through that thread again. I think I might re-read through the SS and Thanos respect threads too, but I don't think I'll change my mind. PC Supes was a crazy-ass, ghetto-beast. JMHO.
Oh and I changed my mind, PC Supes vs Surfer goes back to 10/10.
Supes clears it easily.
Originally posted by tsscls
Yep, after reading the respect threads, I say Supes clears it. Don't be irrational.
"No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it. "
Originally posted by darthgoober
From the forum rules..."No Bias Claims
" [/B]
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
[B]Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.
I don't think PCS is cooler than anyone else. I also don't think that I have to back up my claims concerning him considering so many others have already done so in this very forum. I am not saying noone can possibly beat PC Superman. I'm saying that none of the combatants listed could in my opinion. Are you trying to make a case for yourself regarding your recent post in the "Rules and Debating Discussion Thread?"
Ref your post there on Sept. 27th;
" Barring that, we need stricter policies in regards to supporting your case with evidence for those posters who have a tendency to point others to respect threads or cite feats and abilities for characters rather than scans on the grounds of the feat/ability being "common knowledge that everyone should know". All to often I've looked into "common knowledge" only to discover that's actually a common misconception brought about by a misrepresented source or outright speculation."
If so, then find somewhere else to go to because I'm not biting. This is PC Superman, arguably the most famous and iconic comic book character in existence. It's my opinion that he would clear this gauntlet. I'm not pulling every comic I have out of their jackets, stuffing them into a scanner just to prove a point to you. Walk on home, little man.
Originally posted by tsscls
I don't think PCS is cooler than anyone else. I also don't think that I have to back up my claims concerning him considering so many others have already done so in this very forum. I am not saying noone can possibly beat PC Superman. I'm saying that none of the combatants listed could in my opinion.
Originally posted by tsscls
Are you trying to make a case for yourself regarding your recent post in the "Rules and Debating Discussion Thread?"
Ref your post there on Sept. 27th;
" Barring that, we need stricter policies in regards to supporting your case with evidence for those posters who have a tendency to point others to respect threads or cite feats and abilities for characters rather than scans on the grounds of the feat/ability being "common knowledge that everyone should know". All to often I've looked into "common knowledge" only to discover that's actually a common misconception brought about by a misrepresented source or outright speculation."
If so, then find somewhere else to go to because I'm not biting.
I don't have to make a case for it because it's already part of the forum rules. In the discussion thread I was just pointing out that we need stricter policies on it because there are entirely too many posters like yourself who demand proof while outright refusing to provide any of their own and then accuse others of being irrational.
Originally posted by tsscls
This is PC Superman, arguably the most famous and iconic comic book character in existence. It's my opinion that he would clear this gauntlet. I'm not pulling every comic I have out of their jackets, stuffing them into a scanner just to prove a point to you. Walk on home, little man.
"No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources . If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it."
"Barring that, we need stricter policies in regards to supporting your case with evidence for those posters who have a tendency to point others to respect threads or cite feats and abilities for characters rather than scans on the grounds of the feat/ability being "common knowledge that everyone should know". All to often I've looked into "common knowledge" only to discover that's actually a common misconception brought about by a misrepresented source or outright speculation."
So you deny that part of your motivation for keeping this argument going is the post ref above? I think you have an agenda. Perhaps there's a rule that pertains to this. Could you pull it for me?
Originally posted by tsscls
"Barring that, we need stricter policies in regards to supporting your case with evidence for those posters who have a tendency to point others to respect threads or cite feats and abilities for characters rather than scans on the grounds of the feat/ability being "common knowledge that everyone should know". All to often I've looked into "common knowledge" only to discover that's actually a common misconception brought about by a misrepresented source or outright speculation."So you deny that part of your motivation for keeping this argument going is the post ref above? I think you have an agenda. Perhaps there's a rule that pertains to this. Could you pull it for me?
Wait, here it is.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=447994&highlight=girls+forumid%3A98
Originally posted by tsscls
"Barring that, we need stricter policies in regards to supporting your case with evidence for those posters who have a tendency to point others to respect threads or cite feats and abilities for characters rather than scans on the grounds of the feat/ability being "common knowledge that everyone should know". All to often I've looked into "common knowledge" only to discover that's actually a common misconception brought about by a misrepresented source or outright speculation."So you deny that part of your motivation for keeping this argument going is the post ref above? I think you have an agenda. Perhaps there's a rule that pertains to this. Could you pull it for me?
But even if you were right about that post being the motivation for this discussion(which you're not), it wouldn't change the fact that you're blatantly setting yourself and PC Superman above the forum rules in this debate.
"So you admit that you're flatly refusing to abide by forum rules then..."
No I'm just saying that even though I like this site, and have been visiting it for three years now, I'm not going to damage my collection for anyone on it. I pointed you to the respect thread, which in this case, I believe is relevant. Go to it or not. If you would have kept quiet, I wouldn't have argued anymore. If I thought you had a good argument, I would have ceded the point to you. Neither happened. SHHHH!