Originally posted by Spartan 063'Kay, as accurate as you are in this list, unless you're putting the likes of Shaak Ti, Vader, and motherf*cking Palpatine on the same tier as Malak and (I know you can't hear my scoff) Mandalore, then what has Revan got by comparison? Bastila--Scourge of the Jedi? Cuz Lord knows, Galen can't take her.
Revan was able to master force storm, which if I recall is much more potent then force lightning.Then he went on to defeat Malak while he was empowered by the dark side.
Malak even said his former master (revan) was always powerful in the force.
During the mandalorian wars Revan fought mandalore the ultimate and defeated him in one on one combat, and they were wearing beskar armor wich is lightsaber resistant.
P.S. What one arrogant blowhard says about his ultra-ambiguous former master 4000 years ago, means nothing when comparing to Galen Marek's powers.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Based on what?
My completely unsubstantiated opinion and intense hatred of the entire idea for Starkiller.
But really, like someone already said - the guy basically raided Korriban and Malachor V. He wrote at least two books on the Dark Side as well as a holocron containing his knowledge. The guy's knowledge and mastery of the Force had to be insane.
In a word - yes.
The fact that an extremely young upstart who basically comes out of nowhere (and isn't named Skywalker), who isn't even a Sith apprentice, who is not only Vader's personal ***** but Emperor Palpatine's - who pulls off these "feats" which are intentionally exaggerated (ala CWC) and ends up WTFpwning Vader and somehow is responsible for starting the entire Rebel Alliance...well, it doesn't sit well with me. I hate the hype.
Oh, and Revan is full of win.
Originally posted by Faunus
Among other things, Skywalker gets his ass kicked enough to not be considered a Gary Stu,
Amen.
Besides, he's the only one left to root for now that Grand Admiral Gilad Pellaeon is dead. Those times that he put the fear of God into Jacen, I do believe I was sexually aroused.
and Starkiller is actually an engaging character.
Some say the same about Revan, and there can be no doubt that he's a Gary-Stu. It's more than mere engagement. Starkiller's powers, while great, are limited, and he's the product of a ridiculously deep training regimen by a monster of a mentor. Not to mention he's the very definition of "pawn" and "tool", being manipulated his entire life for one purpose and then dying in the end.
Palpatine could be considered the most "typical" of the bunch, but even then he's unique in several respects.
Here's the way I look at it. People can harp and whine about Palpatine's level of power, political or otherwise, but he worked for it. Spent many, many, many decades acquiring his political power and Force knowledge and applying them to use. It's not like he's a spring chicken who just so happened to be given the ability to tear fleets apart. Not to mention the whole crippling narcissism and megalomania.