Imperiex vs. Galactus

Started by Bentley11 pages
Originally posted by fangirl101
no. Becuz this is the most current versions of each Character. Everything master is saying Galactus did that is "uber" is in the future.

I know that, Galactus however has the UN, nothing changes that right.

I have to add that the feats that Imperiex has are not that impressive. If Galactus destroys his hide he can send him to the past to avoid his explosion, right?

Originally posted by fangirl101

no. Becuz this is the most current versions of each Character.

Everything master is saying Galactus did that is "uber" is in the future.


That's true, but technically speaking it's still the same 616 Galactus, but in the future,
no mention of power-ups.

Also fangirl if we take dates into a technicality as well,
we notice FF#341 was published in 1990,
the future event is supposedly taking place 15 in the future, that lands on 2005.

So, that point has been reached,
now of course, we didn't see any of this happen in 2005,
because back in issue #341,
Galactus erased himself, and that period of time from existence, so it never took place.

Byrne's future vision of Galactus hasn't been thwarted that I know of.

But fangirl, 616 Galactus has also been depicted as containing infinite energy.

I posted the two scans in the prior page.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's true, but technically speaking it's still the same 616 Galactus, but in the future,
no mention of power-ups.

Also fangirl if we take dates into a technicality as well,
we notice FF#341 was published in 1990,
the future event is supposedly taking place 15 in the future, that lands on 2005.

So, that point has been reached,
now of course, we didn't see any of this happen in 2005,
because back in issue #341,
Galactus erased himself, and that period of time from existence, so it never took place.

Byrne's future vision of Galactus hasn't been thwarted that I know of.

But fangirl, 616 Galactus has also been depicted as containing infinite energy.

I posted the two scans in the prior page.


A guy containing infinite energy needs to feed and gets pwned by the Thing. Come on now.

Originally posted by Bentley

I know that, Galactus however has the UN


I've lately landed at thinking
that the UN may have erased, then created the entire Marvel Universe,
not just the prime Multiverse as I thought for years.

Based on this imo:

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Roma (Omniversal Guardian) makes it clear:

"And if we do not act soon ... All of Time will be lost to us"

Roma, is the celestial guardian of all Time across the Omniverse,
is Abraxas a Multiversal power of Omniversal significance?
Or is Abraxas the conceptual destroyer of the Omniverse?

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Evidently, Eternity's form is the substance of all creation, as in the Omniverse,
although Eternity's consciousness only stretches across the prime Multiverse.

"Eternity ... withIN it, all that ever was, ever is or ever will be, exists."

To Roma, "all that ever was, ever is or ever will be" ... is the Omniverse. hm

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This is thought provoking evidence imo.

In DC, All timelines eminate from the New Earth one. So anyone powerful enough to erase that time line and start it over is ineffect powerful enough to erase it all.

Originally posted by fangirl101

A guy containing infinite energy needs to feed


That energy's purpose isn't for battle,
it's energy reserved withIN him for the end of the Universe,
in order to create the next/new Marvel Universe.

His storage capacity has no end apparently,
as he continues to absorb and never ceases to need more
while containing an infinite amount already.

Originally posted by fangirl101

and gets pwned by the Thing.


😆 ... So I see you took that hungry Galactus PIS showing to heart.

But you completely ignored what happens when the PIS is removed:

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First ... hungry Galactus, with a thought, erases Uatu from existence:

Uatu is the guy who can hold a new born Universe in his hands like a jelly bean,
and then actually proceed to place it his chest, wow.

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Sue, Reed, Ben, & Johnny run for their lives into an underground bunker:

What happened to the Thing pwning?

Originally posted by Mr Master
That energy's purpose isn't for battle,
it's energy reserved withIN him for the end of the Universe,
in order to create the next/new Marvel Universe.

His storage capacity has no end apparently,
as he continues to absorb and never ceases to need more
while containing an infinite amount already.

😆 ... So I see you took that hungry Galactus PIS showing to heart.

But you completely ignored what happens when the PIS is removed:

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First ... [b]hungry Galactus, with a thought, erases Uatu from existence:

Uatu is the guy who can hold a new born Universe in his hands like a jelly bean,
and then actually proceed to place it his chest, wow.

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Sue, Reed, Ben, & Johnny run for their lives into an underground bunker:

What happened to the Thing pwning? [/B]


That was a what if? Yeah. Ok.

So you're using a starving Galactus from 40 years ago as evidence?

Originally posted by Mindset
So you're using a starving Galactus from 40 years ago as evidence?
Who the heck are you talking to? I'm not using anything from the silver age as evidence. the low showings and high showings at marvel were silly. galactus gets pwned by Thing and Odin kills galaxies? All crap. Galactus is a galaxy buster. Imperiex is a Universe buster. Doesn't matter what energies they contain with in them. It's about what they do in a fight or in feats.

Originally posted by fangirl101

In DC, All timelines eminate from the New Earth one.
So anyone powerful enough to erase that time line and start it over
is ineffect powerful enough to erase it all.


That's cool, and for the most part, that works on 616 as well.

But on panel,
Roma stated that Eternity's form contains the Omniverse.

On panel, it was Eternity's form that was erased, then created anew:

Now, we know that at the very least, the prime Multiverse was re-created,
but what's interesting is, that Abraxas' bio states "The Universe" ...

Now, we know when Marvel refers to multiple/infinite Realities as "The Universe"
they actually mean the entire Marvel Universe, which is everything as in the Omniverse.

Don't know why I didn't realize that before, can't believe I overlooked those Roma scans.

Originally posted by fangirl101
A guy containing infinite energy needs to feed and gets pwned by the Thing . Come on now.

Originally posted by fangirl101

That was a what if? Yeah. Ok.


Actually, that's What if the FF stepped to hungry Galactus without hero protective PIS.

Notice how the Universe wielding Uatu got erased from existence with a gesture. 🙂

Again, this is one of those places where we can find a high showing of G without pis interrupting.

616 hungry Galactus easily defeats Hyperstorm like a child.

Hyperstorm, unlimited potential, indeed, connected to an infinite reservoir of energy,
he even controlled his entire Universe, and was out to take em all.

As shown above, Hyperstorm wanted to battle,
hungry Galactus was like, I don't even need to fight you son,
I'll instead just take all your energy.

Stomp ... 😂

Originally posted by fangirl101
Who the heck are you talking to? I'm not using anything from the silver age as evidence. the low showings and high showings at marvel were silly. galactus gets pwned by Thing and Odin kills galaxies? All crap. Galactus is a galaxy buster. Imperiex is a Universe buster. Doesn't matter what energies they contain with in them. It's about what they do in a fight or in feats.

Galactus also gets established numerous times as the most powerful physical entity in the universe by the narrator in all the cases Stan Lee and Jack Kirby was the writer, Later to further give a impression of the powerlevel of the Abstracts we have Kubik taking about the greater powers in the universe, Galactus is one of them, Kubik is a universal power but sees Galactus as a Being above himself. Most Lately we have the annihilus incident, where Galactus is going to be used as a cosmic bomb to destroy the 616 reality and the negative zone, Thanos knew that Galactus had the capacity to do it, else he wouldn't have acted to stop Annihilus.

In both the regular and even the what if scenarios, one thing is agreed on.

Galactus apparently cannot survive the destruction of the universe. Both times that Richards asked him...he backed off.

Canon 616

What if (Non Canon)

The mere mention of the destruction of it is enough to deter him. With that said, in the What if...another interesting incident happens...

Reed is holding the UN and gets OWNED by Surfer...meaning that wielding it does not make you invincible nor does it grant you protection in any way.

Galactus can be drained. Annihilation is proof of it.
Galactus gets weak. Plenty of storylines show this.
Galactus cannot stand entropic energy for long. Annihilation is proof of it.
Galactus can die.

Interesting stuff though.

Using a what if as proof?

Fail!!

So the last few pages are useless because what if's and alternate/future timelines were shown/discussed?

I don't know, if people come out thinking exactly the same thing without knowing anything else they did not know before you kind of have to wonder if they are useless.

Originally posted by Avlon
In both the regular and even the what if scenarios, one thing is agreed on.

Galactus apparently cannot survive the destruction of the universe. Both times that Richards asked him...he backed off.

Canon 616


Galactus never asserted he couldn't survive the end of the Universe,
his fear is of the UN itself, which can nullify him,
although, that in itself would collapse everything anyways.

Still, Galactus can survive the end of the Universe,
he did so already in the future, when one end of the Universe came about.

Originally posted by Avlon

What if (Non Canon)

The mere mention of the destruction of it is enough to deter him. [/B]


What if's aren't non-canon,
they're actually situated in a Universe withIN the prime Marvel Multiverse.

(they're diverge alternate mirrors of 616)

The difference is, that although they are copies of 616,
since they diverged/split from 616, they are instead alternate realities.

But really, the only alternate reality is that history has taken a different path,
but it involves the same exact characters,
with the same exact power-set as the one's from 616,
only seen from two separate perspectives.

Originally Reed with the UN made Galactus concede,
then, a split in time-space took place, another identical 616 Universe popped into existence,
this 616 copy shares every detail with the original 616 up until that point it split,
then it takes on a history of its own.

So in 616 Galactus concedes, in the 616 copy, SS takes the UN away from Reed,
Galactus pwns everyone, including disintegrating Uatu.

Grant it, many What ifs are retarded.

* edit * ... and I don't ever use them, or condone it,
I was actually trying to make a point.

Originally posted by Avlon

With that said, in the What if...another interesting incident happens...

Reed is holding the UN and gets OWNED by Surfer...meaning that wielding it does not make you invincible nor does it grant you protection in any way.


Reed isn't Galactus. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
[b]616 hungry Galactus easily defeats Hyperstorm like a child.

Hyperstorm, unlimited potential, indeed, connected to an infinite reservoir of energy,
he even controlled his entire Universe, and was out to take em all.

As shown above, Hyperstorm wanted to battle,
hungry Galactus was like, I don't even need to fight you son,
I'll instead just take all your energy.

Stomp ... 😂 [/B]

Yeah,Galactus wins. 😛