Mundus and Argosax vs Pyron

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i wrote a long reply to BT's illogical rant{honestly dude...} but the electricity went out. so ill just say this

1. gameplay. in reality they are moving at lightspeed/lightening speed, no evidence to the contrary. the speed of gameplay is on a level so players can react to it

2. what does accuracy have to do with power

3. its available in gameplay{of uve played the game} in the dark slayer style, and the move is called "slash dimension" in the database and it cuts objects by slashing through the dimension they exist in making for prfect cuts despite the durability of the object

4. dante cant walk and jump on illusions. you have no evidence suggesting it was an illusion. russel's teapot, look it up. mundus took him flying in space in another dimension. stop this nonsense. and sum1 who thinks kain can one shot pyron is not at liberty to say that any1 else hypes characters

5. so because people lie in james bond therefore nuthing characters say in dmc{or anything else inconvenient to u} can be taken as fact, even if it is supported by evidence and never EVER retconned or denied?!?!?!!!? what a load of absolute CRAP!

and again, how can a man who lusts after a video game vampire who is not only a man, but posesses three claws as finger/a disfigured face and hulking muscles , comment on what other posters are DEPRIVED off?

5.

1. no you see thats not whats assumed, you need to provide evidence for it, not me provide evidence for your negative, you need to prove that their going lightning speed, I dont have to prove your point, or disprove it when youve not got evidence.

2. everything, theres no point in being able to blow up a planet, your useless and weak if in essence youve got a 1 in one billion chance of hitting it.

3. thing is, the dimension the objects exist in is the same one the character is in, its basically a fancy way of saying "slashing objects"

4. He doesnt walk and jump on anything, what are you talking about, supposing my assumption which is as good, if not better than yours (becase mines logical) is correct, Dante is running and jumping already on pieces of the volanic fiery area that Munudus fights him in last, the rest, the space, the cathedral could all be illusions wheras your guessing and assuming otherwise. How so? I can debate Kain can one shot pyron through logical means and using Kains powers, you assume random nonsense without any evidence or background whatsoever.

5. Characters speech in general is not a way of gauging power of beings, James bond is an example, theres countless fictions where villains say their invuincible, unstopable etc etc, it does not make it true...

nothing is supported at all, Despair embodied has no feats, and has defeated nobody.

I dont know this man you speak of, I dont know someone who "lusts", I myself debate logically using facts with Kain to defeat his opponents however, not make up nonsense and baseless claims at the same time as throwing around weak titles.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. no you see thats not whats assumed, you need to provide evidence for it, not me provide evidence for your negative, you need to [b]prove that their going lightning speed, I dont have to prove your point, or disprove it when youve not got evidence.

2. everything, theres no point in being able to blow up a planet, your useless and weak if in essence youve got a 1 in one billion chance of hitting it.

3. thing is, the dimension the objects exist in is the same one the character is in, its basically a fancy way of saying "slashing objects"

4. He doesnt walk and jump on anything, what are you talking about, supposing my assumption which is as good, if not better than yours (becase mines logical) is correct, Dante is running and jumping already on pieces of the volanic fiery area that Munudus fights him in last, the rest, the space, the cathedral could all be illusions wheras your guessing and assuming otherwise. How so? I can debate Kain can one shot pyron through logical means and using Kains powers, you assume random nonsense without any evidence or background whatsoever.

5. Characters speech in general is not a way of gauging power of beings, James bond is an example, theres countless fictions where villains say their invuincible, unstopable etc etc, it does not make it true...

nothing is supported at all, Despair embodied has no feats, and has defeated nobody.

I dont know this man you speak of, I dont know someone who "lusts", I myself debate logically using facts with Kain to defeat his opponents however, not make up nonsense and baseless claims at the same time as throwing around weak titles. [/B]

1. you dont need to prove that LIGHTENING travels at the speed of lightening, or infact that lightening IS lightening. that is a given, unless proven otherwise, gameplay mechanics designed to make players react to such phenomenon in no way undermine this. dont lecture me about logical fallacies, you yourself are one

2. but that demon had a significant chance of hitting dante, not 1 in a billion, so no point

3. no. the sword is about 5-6 feat in length, however, the slashes cut through miles and miles and objects as large as pyramids. so it isnt physical cutting as you are trying to play it, for one. its a dimensional distortion wave which SEPERATES space between a physical object cutting it irrespective of physical prowess

4. he walks and jumps on the cathedral type place you claim is an illusion. he also embeds sparda sword into its ground. what im saying is plain fact which every1 agrees with, you are coming up with wild assumptions with POSITIVELY nuthing to even remotely hint at them let alone give plausible evidence. you dont know how to debate logically, or even anything near it, to say otherwise is self flatterby. kain can do nuthing to pyron.

5. character speech in general is a very good way of backing up cannon specially if the media/series in question isnt known for characters lying or PIS. neither is present in devil may cry and to compare it to james bond is sumthing only u can come up with in a debate. none of the statements have been retconned or contradicted, plus, i gave you two statements from the game database which arent speech.

its interesting to see how your argument changes in every reply as your old points are disproven

logic and you are parallels BT. and if you dont know the man i speak of then you really arent in touch with your own self 😛 .

Kain is hulking and muscular?

News to me.

Seriously, I have a fetish for giant, buff characters, I refuse to allow you to group Kain in with the bodybuilders of fiction like Pyron, Ganon, Broly, Kratos, or Superman.

^errr, have you SEEN kain in soul reaver/soul reaver 2/defiance. hes very very muscular. ur prolly remembering the kain from blood omen 2.

I am thinking of Defiance Kain.

Dude is a toothpick compared to the real giantzor buffzor men in fiction.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
1. you dont need to prove that LIGHTENING travels at the speed of lightening, or infact that lightening IS lightening. that is a given, unless proven otherwise, gameplay mechanics designed to make players react to such phenomenon in no way undermine this. dont lecture me about logical fallacies, you yourself are one

2. but that demon had a significant chance of hitting dante, not 1 in a billion, so no point

3. no. the sword is about 5-6 feat in length, however, the slashes cut through miles and miles and objects as large as pyramids. so it isnt physical cutting as you are trying to play it, for one. its a dimensional distortion wave which SEPERATES space between a physical object cutting it irrespective of physical prowess

4. he walks and jumps on the cathedral type place you claim is an illusion. he also embeds sparda sword into its ground. what im saying is plain fact which every1 agrees with, you are coming up with wild assumptions with POSITIVELY nuthing to even remotely hint at them let alone give plausible evidence. you dont know how to debate logically, or even anything near it, to say otherwise is self flatterby. kain can do nuthing to pyron.

5. character speech in general is a very good way of backing up cannon specially if the media/series in question isnt known for characters lying or PIS. neither is present in devil may cry and to compare it to james bond is sumthing only u can come up with in a debate. none of the statements have been retconned or contradicted, plus, i gave you two statements from the game database which arent speech.

its interesting to see how your argument changes in every reply as your old points are disproven

logic and you are parallels BT. and if you dont know the man i speak of then you really arent in touch with your own self 😛 .

1. You need to prove that demon being made of lightning goes at lightnign speeds.

2. Its the same point, you cannot determine the demons accuracy just because your a weak player at the game and keep getting hit.

3. All it does is slash, and cut the object in two, similiar to sephiroths blade beams. None of these powers allow him to defeat Pyron, who is not a slab of rock sitting there.

4. Everyone agrees with? 😆 there is zero fact Munudus changes any dimensions. You couldnt and have never been able to debate against me, so dont throw around your baseless opinions.

5. Its not, I guess Hitler saying hes going to take over Britain in real life means now were all under Natzi rule? no.....

Sargeras in Warcraft said he was going to destroy the world, did he? no.....

Archimonde in the same fiction said he was going to acquire the well of eternity, did he? no.....

theres a lot of things you need to learn about debating laddie.

my old points? theres no disproven old point since youve given no evidence, youve thrown around flimsy opinions. Only you belive Dante or perhaps Depsair embodied, Mundus etc could defeat Pyron, whats interesting is you cannot debate it, all you can say is. "Despair embodied is big godsor ans abstract, he cans beat anyones!!"

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. You need to prove that demon being [b]made of lightning goes at lightnign speeds.

2. Its the same point, you cannot determine the demons accuracy just because your a weak player at the game and keep getting hit.

3. All it does is slash, and cut the object in two, similiar to sephiroths blade beams. None of these powers allow him to defeat Pyron, who is not a slab of rock sitting there.

4. Everyone agrees with? 😆 there is zero fact Munudus changes any dimensions. You couldnt and have never been able to debate against me, so dont throw around your baseless opinions.

5. Its not, I guess Hitler saying hes going to take over Britain in real life means now were all under Natzi rule? no.....

Sargeras in Warcraft said he was going to destroy the world, did he? no.....

Archimonde in the same fiction said he was going to acquire the well of eternity, did he? no.....

theres a lot of things you need to learn about debating laddie.

my old points? theres no disproven old point since youve given no evidence, youve thrown around flimsy opinions. Only you belive Dante or perhaps Depsair embodied, Mundus etc could defeat Pyron, whats interesting is you cannot debate it, all you can say is. "Despair embodied is big godsor ans abstract, he cans beat anyones!!" [/B]

1. no i dont, lightening is understood to posess the attributes of lightening, reguardless of gameplay mechanics. {kinda like how faster than light pyron can still be seen by the human eye in the video games}. its you who need to prove that lightening isnt lightening{which even sounds absurd. your statements have only syntax stopping them from becoming a jumble of letters, logic seems to want to have nuthing to so with ur brain.

2. untrue, it doesnt have zero accuracy either. again, what does accuracy have to do with power.

3. slash what? it isnt long enough to slash that far, the move is called slash dimension{again ur changing ur argument as ur last point is proven to be BS} it cuts through anything in cannon, its a dimensional cut. nuthing to do with beating pyron but dimensional cuts can surely harm him unlike basic physical attacks

4. your full of your own shit, but thats ok, every else is used to it {even JAXXX who ur defending btw. he simply isnt commenting cause ur on his side, but tell him that kain can beat pyron and see what happens. no1 here thinks kain cud beat him}. i have given positive evidence for mundus changing dimensions, THRICE. youve given zero evidence on which to base ur BS hypothesis {which again, only YOU cud come up with}.

5. are any of those things concerned with devil may cry? no? then shut up

every single one of your points have been annihlated with evidence from the game and script. ur a kid with a god complex, nuthing more to it.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
1. no i dont, lightening is understood to posess the attributes of lightening, reguardless of gameplay mechanics. {kinda like how faster than light pyron can still be seen by the human eye in the video games}. its you who need to prove that lightening isnt lightening{which even sounds absurd. your statements have only syntax stopping them from becoming a jumble of letters, logic seems to want to have nuthing to so with ur brain.

2. untrue, it doesnt have zero accuracy either. again, what does accuracy have to do with power.

3. slash what? it isnt long enough to slash that far, the move is called slash dimension{again ur changing ur argument as ur last point is proven to be BS} it cuts through anything in cannon, its a dimensional cut. nuthing to do with beating pyron but dimensional cuts can surely harm him unlike basic physical attacks

4. your full of your own shit, but thats ok, every else is used to it {even JAXXX who ur defending btw. he simply isnt commenting cause ur on his side, but tell him that kain can beat pyron and see what happens. no1 here thinks kain cud beat him}. i have given positive evidence for mundus changing dimensions, THRICE. youve given zero evidence on which to base ur BS hypothesis {which again, only YOU cud come up with}.

5. are any of those things concerned with devil may cry? no? then shut up

every single one of your points have been annihlated with evidence from the game and script. ur a kid with a god complex, nuthing more to it.

1. yeh lightning, those demons are not lightning however, they transform their bodies into lightning energy, but their not thunderbolts from the sky either.....nothing indicates them moving lightning speeds and as i said, few if any of Dantes weapons can even damage them when their moving full speed.

2. lack of accuracy makes something useless, either way, whats its powerful feat that makes it comparable to planet busting Pyron?

3. Its a slash like a blade beam.

4. true, no one here does, but then nobody else can debate against it either. Wheres your positive evidence? youve given a load of BS, nothing at all claims Mundus changes any dimensions.

5. Their examples of how villains underestimate their opponents,

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at about 1.49

"it is time to end your pitiful life now"

yet Dante does not have his life ended? ....seems Munudus was wrong and its not true that Dantes life ends?....yeh, your argument is baseless, broken and ill try one of yours..

"nobody else on this forum thinks everything that characters say is 100% canon"

Not a kid, ime over 19, in the Uk that makes me adult, however no, none of my points have been annihilated at all, they stand the same....

your claims are rubble after first you say because apprentyl Despair embodied is an abstract you assume he can defeat anyone Pyron or has a chance? you bring up titles and weak fallacies to try and cover and overhype your lame characters, your not a debator, your a troll who immitates debators.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. yeh lightning, those demons are not lightning however, they transform their bodies into lightning energy, but their not thunderbolts from the sky either.....nothing indicates them moving lightning speeds and as i said, few if any of Dantes weapons can even damage them when their moving full speed.

2. lack of accuracy makes something useless, either way, whats its powerful feat that makes it comparable to planet busting Pyron?

3. Its a slash like a blade beam.

4. true, no one here does, but then nobody else can debate against it either. Wheres your positive evidence? youve given a load of BS, nothing at all claims Mundus changes any dimensions.

5. Their examples of how villains underestimate their opponents,

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at about 1.49

"it is time to end your pitiful life now"

yet Dante does not have his life ended? ....seems Munudus was wrong and its not true that Dantes life ends?....yeh, your argument is baseless, broken and ill try one of yours..

"nobody else on this forum thinks everything that characters say is 100% canon"

Not a kid, ime over 19, in the Uk that makes me adult, however no, none of my points have been annihilated at all, they stand the same....

your claims are rubble after first you say because apprentyl Despair embodied is an abstract you assume he can defeat anyone Pyron or has a chance? you bring up titles and weak fallacies to try and cover and overhype your lame characters, your not a debator, your a troll who immitates debators.

theres no such thing as "LIGHTENING ENERGY" there is lightening, or there isnt. any electricity in space when discharged travels at around the same speed. lightening moves at the speed of lightening, prove otherwise or dont speak.

2. who said it was compareable to pyron{again, you giving up your old point and bringing out a new one once its demolished}. all it does is show that dante is powerful while u claimed he was weak

3. its called slash DIMENSION, its a DIMENSIONAL cut.

4. actually every1 has, only you dont stop replying {reguardless of having no factual evidence} because your nto smart enough to realise that uve lost every time. my positive evidence is clearly mentioned in the previous posts, by listing verifyable feats, in game script and database entires

5. so script concerning intentions of character towards other characters in fights are representative of statements characters make concernig FACTS about the universe theyre in?!?!?!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!? 😆 😆 . oh then i guess ill stop beleiving that magneto has magnetism based powers simply because the same character said that hed kill sabretooth in rage, but didnt{obviously hes a liar!!!!!!!!!!!} 😆 . ur such a fool BT.

yap yap yap, i refuse to bring a single strand of evidence concerning the debate in question to ill make personal insults and more stupid attacks{backed by nuthign as usual} to make myself feal more secure that i do infact have intelligence{hint : u dont}. and dont talk about fallacies, you yourself are one.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
theres no such thing as "LIGHTENING ENERGY" there is lightening, or there isnt. any electricity in space when discharged travels at around the same speed. lightening moves at the speed of lightening, prove otherwise or dont speak.

2. who said it was compareable to pyron{again, you giving up your old point and bringing out a new one once its demolished}. all it does is show that dante is powerful while u claimed he was weak

3. its called slash DIMENSION, its a DIMENSIONAL cut.

4. actually every1 has, only you dont stop replying {reguardless of having no factual evidence} because your nto smart enough to realise that uve lost every time. my positive evidence is clearly mentioned in the previous posts, by listing verifyable feats, in game script and database entires

5. so script concerning intentions of character towards other characters in fights are representative of statements characters make concernig FACTS about the universe theyre in?!?!?!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!? 😆 😆 . oh then i guess ill stop beleiving that magneto has magnetism based powers simply because the same character said that hed kill sabretooth in rage, but didnt{obviously hes a liar!!!!!!!!!!!} 😆 . ur such a fool BT.

yap yap yap, i refuse to bring a single strand of evidence concerning the debate in question to ill make personal insults and more stupid attacks{backed by nuthign as usual} to make myself feal more secure that i do infact have intelligence{hint : u dont}. and dont talk about fallacies, you yourself are one.

ofc there is.....lightning energy is what lightning is, electrical energy, just because in Diablo a sorceress can fire a ball of lightning, or because a characteri n another fiction fires beams of lightning does not mean those beams/balls move at lightning speed, its a fiction.

I can bring up many examples from Warcraft, which is stuffed with magic where lightning balls dont actually move the speed a lightning BOLT does, do you realise what I said there? you may say all you like about lightning moving quickly but you would be wrong, its lightning bolts that move quickly.

the fruitcake demon has no lightning bolt speed. since he is not one, simply made out of lightning lol

2. But how does this show hes powerful at all? thats part of my main point, ive not given it up, your still basing the monsters power on your own opinion, the power of the monster is high/low depending what your comparing it to, if your comparing it to Pyron then its as weak as a fly is to a human for instance.....

3. yeh.....your throwing around names of things again...

Ive got a magazine with a character in it called the "unbeatable", does that mean he cannot be defeated? no.....hes defeated several times.

The American "Daisy cutter" bomb is a powerful fuel bomb like weapon, yet from its name, perhaps it just cuts daisies....get real 😂

4. Post me a quote from where ive "lost"....? you wont be able to, because ive never done...

Youve listed no in-game feat or evidence for Munudus changing dimension

5. Theres no indication of facts about any universe, hes basically a mad badguy who looks like a weak Asian esque character the developers have spat out (DMC2 was positvely the worst DMC game). The guy saying what hes going to do or talking about characters superior to him (hes basically a human which makes you thinking his word on this Despair embodied is law even more laughable than it is).

Theres no fact at all.

No you should continue to believe Magneto has it because you see, he has shown it, terrible example.

lol whats this blundering nonsense? and ime refering to this last few sentences, I can imagine youd think I was talking about your entire post....

The drama from this debate is giving me an orgasm.

theres no drama, if you ask him to lay out his arguments for any of these beating Pyron youll find he has nothing but titles.

Because I think everyone whos played the games knows that noneof them have any feats to back them up. Hell they dont even have many if any statements on their power.

Originally posted by Burning thought
ofc there is.....lightning energy is what lightning is, electrical energy, just because in Diablo a sorceress can fire a ball of lightning, or because a characteri n another fiction fires beams of lightning does not mean those beams/balls move at lightning speed, its a fiction.

I can bring up many examples from Warcraft, which is stuffed with magic where lightning balls dont actually move the speed a lightning [b]BOLT does, do you realise what I said there? you may say all you like about lightning moving quickly but you would be wrong, its lightning bolts that move quickly.

the fruitcake demon has no lightning bolt speed. since he is not one, simply made out of lightning lol

2. But how does this show hes powerful at all? thats part of my main point, ive not given it up, your still basing the monsters power on your own opinion, the power of the monster is high/low depending what your comparing it to, if your comparing it to Pyron then its as weak as a fly is to a human for instance.....

3. yeh.....your throwing around names of things again...

Ive got a magazine with a character in it called the "unbeatable", does that mean he cannot be defeated? no.....hes defeated several times.

The American "Daisy cutter" bomb is a powerful fuel bomb like weapon, yet from its name, perhaps it just cuts daisies....get real 😂

4. Post me a quote from where ive "lost"....? you wont be able to, because ive never done...

Youve listed no in-game feat or evidence for Munudus changing dimension

5. Theres no indication of facts about any universe, hes basically a mad badguy who looks like a weak Asian esque character the developers have spat out (DMC2 was positvely the worst DMC game). The guy saying what hes going to do or talking about characters superior to him (hes basically a human which makes you thinking his word on this Despair embodied is law even more laughable than it is).

Theres no fact at all.

No you should continue to believe Magneto has it because you see, he has shown it, terrible example.

lol whats this blundering nonsense? and ime refering to this last few sentences, I can imagine youd think I was talking about your entire post.... [/B]

lightening energy= LIGHTENING. they arent two distinct things. lightening like many other phenomenon CARRIES energy, but its energy isnt different from any other type of energy, ur playing with words. ORBS of electricity are NOT lightening. blitZes ARE lightening when they choose to be. are warcraft and diablo, devil may cry? no? then shutup yet again. dante battle lightening and lightspeed characters, deal with it.

2. again, a change in argument. you posted NUTHING concerning his power, all you posted was GAMEPLAY feats for its ACCURACY. how is it that ur commenting on its power now based on nuthing? ridiculous little kid

3. are the american bomb and magazine article in any way connected to devil may cry? no? {you know the drill}

its a dimensional cut and all evidence including ingame database backs that

4. each and every1 of your arguments{or words you generally type or utter for that matter} are filled with epic fail. pick any1. you have made maybe, one, or two statements here which are correct, and that is just coincidence since there are bound to be threads where kain geneuinly wins against characters. {lmao, ur the guy who said that the sorcerors on nosgoth were reality maniopulaters and kain can one shot pyron, heck, u said kain cud one shot WILHELM!!!!!!!!!! 😆
}

5. you asked for script evidence, i gave you script evidence, you asked for databse evidence, i quoted you database evidence. guess what.........there isnt ANYTHING else to go by in games. they are both cannon, they are both unretconned, they are both consistant and they are both unchallenged. so your measly wordss means nothing, dispair embodied is who he is.

as for mundus, stop bitching and moaning. positive evidence has been given for him having large scale dimensional powers on THREE seperate occasions. deal with it.

ur foolishness continues to astound me BT. you have officially entered the ranks of qanchi/mr master/galacticstor/whob/JIA. congrats

Originally posted by leonheartmm
lightening energy= LIGHTENING. they arent two distinct things. lightening like many other phenomenon CARRIES energy, but its energy isnt different from any other type of energy, ur playing with words. ORBS of electricity are NOT lightening. blitZes ARE lightening when they choose to be. are warcraft and diablo, devil may cry? no? then shutup yet again. dante battle lightening and lightspeed characters, deal with it.

2. again, a change in argument. you posted NUTHING concerning his power, all you posted was GAMEPLAY feats for its ACCURACY. how is it that ur commenting on its power now based on nuthing? ridiculous little kid

3. are the american bomb and magazine article in any way connected to devil may cry? no? {you know the drill}

its a dimensional cut and all evidence including ingame database backs that

4. each and every1 of your arguments{or words you generally type or utter for that matter} are filled with epic fail. pick any1. you have made maybe, one, or two statements here which are correct, and that is just coincidence since there are bound to be threads where kain geneuinly wins against characters. {lmao, ur the guy who said that the sorcerors on nosgoth were reality maniopulaters and kain can one shot pyron, heck, u said kain cud one shot WILHELM!!!!!!!!!! 😆
}

5. you asked for script evidence, i gave you script evidence, you asked for databse evidence, i quoted you database evidence. guess what.........there isnt ANYTHING else to go by in games. they are both cannon, they are both unretconned, they are both consistant and they are both unchallenged. so your measly wordss means nothing, dispair embodied is who he is.

as for mundus, stop bitching and moaning. positive evidence has been given for him having large scale dimensional powers on THREE seperate occasions. deal with it.

ur foolishness continues to astound me BT. you have officially entered the ranks of qanchi/mr master/galacticstor/whob/JIA. congrats

1. youve provided no evidence of lightspeed

and its lightning bolts that go at the speed your suggesting, lightning on the other hand in DMC can be clearly seen as fairly slow in comparison to real lightning.

2. you are a ridiculous little Kid I agree, however you have no feats of the Skyscraper creature being powerful.

3. Well no, but their connected to the English language and speech, which is connected to the part of DMC relevent....

4. i.e, you cant find any....fail...

pyron yes, and I said he could one shot Wilhelm if the guy had a soul but i admitted I dont know about the character in general.

5.

No evidence on him doing anything to dimensions...

Leon you surpassed them in foolishness, inaducaucy at debating and common sense a long time ago.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. youve provided no evidence of lightspeed

and its lightning bolts that go at the speed your suggesting, lightning on the other hand in DMC can be clearly seen as fairly slow in comparison to real lightning.

2. you are a ridiculous little Kid I agree, however you have no feats of the Skyscraper creature being powerful.

3. Well no, but their connected to the English language and speech, which is connected to the part of DMC relevent....

4. i.e, you cant find any....fail...

pyron yes, and I said he could one shot Wilhelm if the guy had a soul but i admitted I dont know about the character in general.

5.

No evidence on him doing anything to dimensions...

Leon you surpassed them in foolishness, inaducaucy at debating and common sense a long time ago.

yes i have, ur not reading again.

blitzes turn into lightening BOLTS! so do the lightening foes in dmc1. gameplay speed is suited so players can react to it. you are referring to ORBS of lightening which arent the same as lightening bolts and are not present in dmc.

2. lmao, so ur mental faculties have been so severely damaged that you interpret a statement directed towards you, as being directed towards ME? 😆 . doesnt surprise me. and what feats do you need other than the ability to smash sky scrappers with ease and firing similarly large and vastly more destructive beams? ridiculous

3. relevance = they are both parts of the english language
relevance to debate= none

4. lmao, practically every statement on this page posted by you is one.
pyron, no, kain can do nuthing to pyron.

wilhelm, 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 . wilhelm eats a billion immortal pyrons for breakfast.

5. unless your blind and/or void of a brain{which seems the case here}, ull see positive evidence for him showing strong dimensional powers in three seperate places. it doesnt get more CANNON than this you loon.

still astounding, how one such as you cud have absolutely no concept of self respect. i guess you dont even have a tail to hide between ur legs at this point.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
yes i have, ur not reading again.

blitzes turn into lightening BOLTS! so do the lightening foes in dmc1. gameplay speed is suited so players can react to it. you are referring to ORBS of lightening which arent the same as lightening bolts and are not present in dmc.

2. lmao, so ur mental faculties have been so severely damaged that you interpret a statement directed towards you, as being directed towards ME? 😆 . doesnt surprise me. and what feats do you need other than the ability to smash sky scrappers with ease and firing similarly large and vastly more destructive beams? ridiculous

3. relevance = they are both parts of the english language
relevance to debate= none

4. lmao, practically every statement on this page posted by you is one.
pyron, no, kain can do nuthing to pyron.

wilhelm, 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 . wilhelm eats a billion immortal pyrons for breakfast.

5. unless your blind and/or void of a brain{which seems the case here}, ull see positive evidence for him showing strong dimensional powers in three seperate places. it doesnt get more CANNON than this you loon.

still astounding, how one such as you cud have absolutely no concept of self respect. i guess you dont even have a tail to hide between ur legs at this point.

1. youve not

no they dont turn into lightning bolts lol...

2. Its beams are slow and none of these things are impressive, what can a skyscraper do to defend itself? lol pathetic

3. ofc theres relevence to the debate, since ime debating how what hes saying is part of the english language (it is) and its used in other fictions elseware.

4. And every statement youve ever posted is one. Yes Kain can destroy Pyron.

him destroying pyron a billion times doesnt mean hes got resistance to soul powers.....

5. False, and reported for calling me a loon. Thats a personal attack. And ive seen nothing, the only person who has posted a video so far or image in this thread is me.

I love how Leon brought up Mr Master as one of the idiots, just get his ass is sore from being pwned by him multiple times. Is funny.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. youve not

no they dont turn into lightning bolts lol...

2. Its beams are slow and none of these things are impressive, what can a skyscraper do to defend itself? lol pathetic

3. ofc theres relevence to the debate, since ime debating how what hes saying is part of the english language (it is) and its used in other fictions elseware.

4. And every statement youve ever posted is one. Yes Kain can destroy Pyron.

him destroying pyron a billion times doesnt mean hes got resistance to soul powers.....

5. False, and reported for calling me a loon. Thats a personal attack. And ive seen nothing, the only person who has posted a video so far or image in this thread is me.

1. yes i have, shadows/mirrors

you havent played the game then, they turn INTO lightening bolts and zap around in the area nearly teleporting, infact they ENTER the scenario as lightening bolts. dont talk about things you know nuthing about

2. what is ur head filled with? what does defence and accuracy have to do with power? youve been avoiding answering that uptil now.

3. so simply because people lie using the english language, therefore, no1 who uses the english language can be trusted to tell the truth?!?!?!!?? 😆 😆 😆 😆 {the fact that ur not laughing at urself right now tells quite a lot about ur mind}. no argument, those things have nuthing to do with DMC

4. lie and lie.

yes it does. your just incapable of understanding

5. hehe, wrong again. on screen, on video, thrice shown dimensional powers. i dont have to post any video, not only have you claimed to play the game{which means you are familiar with the scene} but u admitted the scene was there, just tried to reinterpret the whole thing as a gigantic illusion{with ZERO EVIDENCE, or even a tiny hint to that scenario being true- again, only ur brain can come up with this kind of reasoning} and i part of the first dimensional feat is already in the video you posted at 2.31, mundus uses his hands to bring himself and dante in another space dimension,where there battle commences without walls or anything else confining them. i have given you in game databasedescriptions, feats, and game script, u simply brush anything u dont want to see aside, blame ur brain, not me.

you are a loon, thats a fact. but it isnt offensive enough to be reported, your just resorting to your old pathetic tactics of useless reporting when you have no argument.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
I love how Leon brought up Mr Master as one of the idiots, just get his ass is sore from being pwned by him multiple times. Is funny.

dont be a ***** jaxxx. mr master is regularly schooled{more often by people having nuthing to do with me} but only continues to brush aside even basic syntactical logic and rewrite everything that has already been answered, the fact that him and quanchi are usually on the same side is also no coincidence. that is not a debater, its a spammer. and its odd how u have nuthing to contribute to the debate and yet let poor little burningthought with his obsessive compulsive attitude and lack of brains keep at it against me{even though uve made fun of him elsewhere}. either contribute, or stay in the closet.

Funny, I seem to vividly remember him crushing your arguments though.

Quanchi is a Marvel fanboy, and since Mr Master knows more about Marvel and as such argues it more, of course Quan will agree.

And I was debating you, until I realised that I was arguing with someone on a debate of DMC vs. Pyron, which is quite possibly among my stupidest debates.