Fate of the Jedi Series (Post-LOTF)

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Here's the series summary from wookieepedia as well.

'It has been two years since the death of Darth Caedus. Chief of State Natasi Daala has ushered the Galactic Alliance into a time of unprecented calm, and now the entire galaxy stands poised to freely embrace the same enduring peace that Jacen Solo once sought to impose as a Sith Lord.'

In this new era, Luke Skywalker finds himself battling control of the very order he founded. After Jacen's fall to the dark side, much of the galaxy sees Jedi Knights as rogue soldiers too dangerous and unstable to leave unfettered. It is a view shared by Chief Daala, who has sworn to bring the order under government control--or disband it entirely.

But the greatest threat to the Jedi remains unseen, a faceless menace even more lethal and insidious than the Sith who have plagued the Jedi for millennia. Awakened by Jacen Solo during his five-year odyseey, this hidden peril is reaching out from the darkest corner of the galaxy, assaulting Jedi Knights in ways that even Luke has yet to perceive--but which he must quickly thwart if he is to have any hope of redeeming the New Jedi Order.

The last paragraph is the most interesting and I'm curious as to who this new enemey is.

so the publishers summary for the second FOTJ book states, "Darth Caedus--the most powerful of sith lords."

so whats canon everything stating the emperor as most powerful or this quote?

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
so the publishers summary for the second FOTJ book states, "Darth Caedus--the most powerful of sith lords."

so whats canon everything stating the emperor as most powerful or this quote?

The publishers are wrong. And morons

I agree they are morons but, as much as i disagree with this and hate saying it.

couldn't be like this yoda was the most powerful jedi up till and after ROTS until Luke rose to power and became the most powerful jedi

could the same be said for Caedus? Palpatines was the most powerful sith through DE and until Caedus rose to power.

don't get me wrong I don't want caedus to be the most powerful but isn't this a canon source stating that he is? even if we hate it and disagree with the publishers.

It's certainly possible that a post-Palpatine Sith Lord could eventually equal or surpass him in power, it's just not likely.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
The publishers are wrong.

I missed the part where you get to decide what's canon.

but is that post palpatine sith lord Caedus

It may be, according to the publishers. The wording isn't as absolute as "the most powerful Sith Lord in history," so there could be multiple interpretations of it. Granted, it makes no sense at all, but there's post-RotJ EU for you.

I hope that caedus isn't going to be canonized as more powerful the sidious.

Originally posted by Publius II
It's certainly possible that a post-Palpatine Sith Lord could eventually equal or surpass him in power, it's just not likely.

I missed the part where you get to decide what's canon.

I missed the point where publishers think they can post random horseshit against canon.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I missed the point where publishers think they can post random horseshit against canon.
It is indeed horseshit, but technically there is no "canon" contradicting it.

How about the numerous sources claiming Sidious is numero uno, and Invincible stating that Caedus was "one of the most powerful sith lords"?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
How about the numerous sources claiming Sidious is numero uno,
Don't be dense. Not a single one of the OOU sources would possibly apply to a post-Palpatine era, and Caedus wasn't around when any of the IU sources were new. The NEC? Written before Caedus's time. The declarations of the ancient Sith spirits? Spoken before Caedus's time.

And by your logic, no light-sider could ever surpass Yoda, because he was "the most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known."

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
and Invincible stating that Caedus was "one of the most powerful sith lords"?
So if I went ahead and said Sidious was one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever, I'd be wrong?

You have no argument here. Is the idea of Caedus being more powerful than Palpatine stupid? Duh. Is there anything you can do about it? No.

Originally posted by Publius II
Don't be dense. Not a single one of the OOU sources would possibly apply to a post-Palpatine era, and Caedus wasn't around when any of the IU sources were new. The NEC? Written before Caedus's time. The declarations of the ancient Sith spirits? Spoken before Caedus's time.

And by your logic, no light-sider could ever surpass Yoda, because he was "the most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had [b]ever known."

So if I went ahead and said Sidious was one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever, I'd be wrong?

You have no argument here. Is the idea of Caedus being more powerful than Palpatine stupid? Duh. Is there anything you can do about it? No. [/B]

What's the OOU?
If you said Sidious would be one of the most powerful, you'd be wrong seeing as he was the most powerful. Unless the writers are also lawyers who enjoy semantics then "one of the most powerful", and "the most powerful" are two different things.

It says "Most powerful of the sith lords". What the hell does that mean exactly? I guess he is seeing as how he was the only sith lord alive while the One Sith hid on Korriban

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
What's the OOU?
Out-of-universe.

If you said Sidious would be one of the most powerful, you'd be wrong seeing as he was the most powerful.
Jesus Christ.

You're a Jew. Jews are also human. Therefore, you are human, and your being a Jew does not contradict your being a human. Yes?

Likewise, Caedus is the most powerful of Sith Lords. The most powerful Sith Lord is also among the ranks of the most powerful of Sith Lords. It's like being number one in a list of the top five; he's still one of the five, isn't he? His being the most powerful does not contradict his being one of the most powerful.

Clear? Or do you need pictures, now?

Unless the writers are also lawyers who enjoy semantics then "one of the most powerful", and "the most powerful" are two different things.
Yeah, but they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

I thought you considered yourself highly intelligent, DS. Stop being dense.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
so the publishers summary for the second FOTJ book states, "Darth Caedus--the most powerful of sith lords."

so whats canon everything stating the emperor as most powerful or this quote?

How can that be, Jacen is dead, unless their going to write some bullshiite story claiming he is still alive

Originally posted by Publius II
Out-of-universe.

Jesus Christ.

You're a Jew. Jews are also human. Therefore, you are human, and your being a Jew does not contradict your being a human. Yes?

Likewise, Caedus is the most powerful of Sith Lords. The most powerful Sith Lord is also among the ranks of the most powerful of Sith Lords. It's like being number one in a list of the top five; he's still one of the five, isn't he? His being the most powerful does not contradict his being one of the most powerful.

Clear? Or do you need pictures, now?

Yeah, but they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

I thought you considered yourself highly intelligent, DS. Stop being dense.


I'm playing semantics too. I don't think your example is very valid. If Caedus is THE most powerful sith lord then he isn't ONE of the most powerful sith lords. Similarly, if he was ONE Of the most powerful sith lords, that doesn't mean he was the most powerful.

And furthermore, when the description of the book simply states "The most powerful of the sith lords", that's hardly conclusive at all.

Can someone post the summary for Omen?

Edit: I know I'm one of Caedus's biggest supporters on KMC but for the record I'm against him being more powerful than Sidious. Though I will abide by canon either way.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I'm playing semantics too. I don't think your example is very valid. If Caedus is THE most powerful sith lord then he isn't ONE of the most powerful sith lords. Similarly, if he was ONE Of the most powerful sith lords, that doesn't mean he was the most powerful.

And furthermore, when the description of the book simply states "The most powerful of the sith lords", that's hardly conclusive at all.

Do you need ****ing pictures or something?

Screw it. Someone else take over, please.

DS, though you have my sympathy, Faunus is right. You can't just ignore canon you disapprove of.

Then again, there are all sorts of loopholes to exploit in this.