Team video game(LS) vs Team movie(DS)

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Well at least Jester is not a waste of space like Serpent was.To us he may be wrong but at least he is trying to support his stance, can we say the same as Serpent? To me, no.

DarkSerpent, after a bunch of time spamming the forums with shit all day long, turned into a 'reasonable' debater. Now, we both know how that turned out. Jester seems annoyingly similar.

'lol revanz teh bests cuz hiez cuul!!!'

Then again, Jester didn't exactly start the "Revan Rights Movement". Fanboys are everywhere.

Originally posted by Gideon
Jesus Christ, this mentality that "SKYWALKER AND KENOBI ARE THIRD AND FOURTH RESPECTIVELY IN THE ENTIRE ORDER" needs to just die. They're not. They've never been placed that high. Not once. Just because they're major characters doesn't mean they're automatically more powerful. Fisto, Bulq, Billaba, Tinn, Ti, and Kolar all receive similar accolades. Paratus has demonstrated a command of telekinesis and Force energy on par with Dooku; he's capable of taking out "legions" of Confederacy droids singlehandedly. Kota is capable of performing a "near impossible feat" of repulsing Sith lightning, telekinesis, and even Force grips from Starkiller. Finally, could it be possible that the Shadow Guard is a powerful figure?

@MC

I put DarkSerpent on ignore when he was spamming so I missed all of his "debates."

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Kazdan Paratus is a Jedi Knight brushed off as a outcast by Vader.

He was also said to be "far more powerful" than Starkiller. Make up your mind. Paratus was an outcast.

Could I get a quote on the legions of droids, for future notice.

The Force Unleashed's in game databank mentions that Paratus's harness improved his mobility and combined with his saberpike, he was able to destroy "legions of Confederacy droids."

Ti is handled quite comfortably by General Grievous twice.

This would be the same General Grievous who is a master of all of the Jedi fighting forms, able to mimic Vaapad, and "more than a match" for the vast majority of the Jedi?

Rahm Kota is manhandled by Vader quickly,

You mean the Kota whose connection to the Force was blunted due to the loss of his vision?

and the "near impossible feat" is performed by Kenobi, Skywalker, Mace Windu, Yoda, and Shaak Ti.

They all reflected Sith lightning with one hand while laughing?

And Paratus while formidable was the Temple's technician.

And Kenobi was a negotiator. Your point? He was a genius with technology.

I doubt he could take Count Dooku.

If only I had made that contention...

A Shadow Guard is doubtfully a powerful figure,

Giving fits to a guy who had just beaten a Council-level Jedi Master? Um, yeah. They're powerful.

or rather I should say never demonstrated the ability to defeat a Dark Lord of the Sith.

But one of them did prove to be a challenge for an even stronger Starkiller who butchered Paratus and Ti.

Kazdan Paratus also fled the Jedi Temple in fear, and went insane because of his own cowerdice, if he were so powerful he should be able to handle the 501st quite comfortably.

Right, because fighting Vader and the 501st would have ended in victory. Don't confuse the Republic's finest soldiers with battle droids.

In fact Shaak Ti and Kazdan Paratus were present in the temple and yet fled.

When opposed by Darth Vader, the 501st Legion, and whatever else the Empire had set there. You don't fight the Empire on its home planet and win.

First of all why am i getting compared to this DarkSerpent fellow and second i love my video game characters and ill defend them to the end

Originally posted by Gideon
He was also said to be "far more powerful" than Starkiller. Make up your mind. Paratus was an outcast.

The Force Unleashed's in game databank mentions that Paratus's harness improved his mobility and combined with his saberpike, he was able to destroy "legions of Confederacy droids."

This would be the same General Grievous who is a master of all of the Jedi fighting forms, able to mimic Vaapad, and "more than a match" for the vast majority of the Jedi?

You mean the Kota whose connection to the Force was blunted due to the loss of his vision?

They all reflected Sith lightning with one hand while laughing?

And Kenobi was a negotiator. Your point? He was a genius with technology.

If only I had made that contention...

Giving fits to a guy who had just beaten a Council-level Jedi Master? Um, yeah. They're powerful.

But one of them did prove to be a challenge for an even stronger Starkiller who butchered Paratus and Ti.

Right, because fighting Vader and the 501st would have ended in victory. Don't confuse the Republic's finest soldiers with battle droids.

When opposed by Darth Vader, the 501st Legion, and whatever else the Empire had set there. You don't fight the Empire on its home planet and win.

Originally posted by JesterTheFool
First of all why am i getting compared to this DarkSerpent fellow and second i love my video game characters and ill defend them to the end

Then you better step up your game jr. 😉

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I already know what my name means i use it for evrything like xbox live.

God damn i cant wait for Kotor 3 so i can prove all of u wrong

Seconded, but untill that time we have to swallow and play the game like it's supposed to be played.

Well, how I see the fight progressing is thus: Starkiller, by way of being the strongest of the VG team, could take Vader or Dooku and in my opinion could take Dooku with greater ease via greater Force powaz.

Now, and this is where we get into the contraversy, I also say that both the Exile or Revan could also tie up both of the in a duel. The Exile has taken down a Malachor empowered Traya, which is around both of the above if not greater and Revan has taken down SF Malak who is also around that level, especially impressive after just fighting through legions of star forge droids, 'a match for any jedi' and Sith. I know its all ABC but I'm tired and can't think of all the other stuff applicable.
Sidious naturally would beat whoever he comes up against with only mild difficulty.

So ultimately, team movie would prevail due to the presence of Sidious on the Team.

Whoever started this thread should have repalced the Exile with Nihilus to make it more interesting.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
we have to swallow

That's what my harem of SWVF members' mothers say in their whore prayers every night.

Too long.

And Nihilius would rape everything.

Depends if he actually has a penis.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Depends if he actually has a penis.

It's probably a dark side Force penis that drains the victim of life even as Nihilius ejaculates.

If these are the video game character versions against the movie versions than the Video Game characters stomp hard. No movie character has done half of what any of the movie characters have shown on screen.

It is my understanding that he designated them by "video game" and "movie" because the first team has never made an appearance on screen. So, no, they do not stomp. They get stomped.

hmmm, you all know i stand by the " you can't prove revan had ANY specific force powers" position, but i was thinking, if we say revan ACTUALLY HAD all the force powers that the game offers, it STILL doesn't make him all that great, because every other force sensitive in both games was able to achieve that. Do we put Atton Rand near the top of most force knowledgeable simply because he had as many force powers as Revan? How about Visas? is she on par with Revan? or Kreia (mebbe her...) or Darth Bandon? how about Juhani?

Even if Revan had all these powers, it is obvious they weren't uniquely his during that time period, so it doesn't really give him any sort of edge whatsoever.
(though i'll continue to stick with my "can't prove he even had them" theory)

Well if we want to include Gameplay then Admiral Ackbar in TFU is on par with Galem Marek lol

In support of Revan fanboys.
I always like this statement by A.C.S a member of KMC. Here are feats of Revan: (This is from another thread no editing)

"I'd say simple logical deductions are enough to put Revan on the level of Kun in terms of the force and force power:

quote:
- Kreia saying it was as if looking into the heart of the force

- Jolee literally seeing the force swirl around him

- Ajunta Pal said Revans power was "blinding" to him, and that he bristled with the force.

- He being called a prodigy by Vandar at the end of KOTOR, and a prodigy as a knight before the mind wipe

- Having the most complete knowledge of the Dark Side of the force that is second only too Palpatine that we know of

- Had the most advanced, highly developed form of Battle Precognition that allowed him to see the outcome of battles months into the future. (Anther thing that puts him above Darth Cadick whose only precognition failed him and lured him into the clutches of Lumiya)

- Having his name be synonymous with power

- Bastila was literally feeling overwhelmed by the sheer magnitude of his power

- His force mastery that surpasses Caedus whom himself surpassed Vader in terms of force power, who is you know 80% of Darth f*cking Sidious

- Him ripping through the Star Forges defense that were called a match for any Jedi, then beating Bastilla multiple times while she was being constantly revived and amped up by the Star Forge, THEN proceeding to beat Malak at least 2 times in a row while he was empowered by the Star Forge and revived by the life force of dead Jedi.

- Surviving and not being broken by the Dark Side power of Malachor (a PLANET full of raw Dark Side energy, which Kreia was broken by)

- His force bonding ability that he used en mass on his followers according to Kreia

- During his start as Dark Lord the chronicles say his dark power was "tremendous" and only continued to grow, then in KOTOR he's stated as being stronger then he EVER was as the Dark Lord.

- Revan using force storms to slaughter Rataka scouting parties on Lehon

- He slaughters the Sith Academy by himself (showed in KOTOR1, confirmed by Kreia in KOTOR 2)

- His holocron alone was enough in itself to turn Bane from a neophyte to a very dangerous, very powerful Dark Lord

- Sion, the mans whos pull on the force is so strong it holds his dead body together through sheer hate, admits to being his inferiority to Revan, he even goes as far as to give him the honorific "Lord" when he speaks of him, something he DOESN'T do for his current master or any of his peers

Revan is a beast with the force, as is Kun, which leads me to believe it would come down to a saber duel, and while Kun is stated to be a Lightsaber Master, that title remains unquantified, we know his skill is enough to stalemate Ulic, and crush Vodo but thats about it. As for Revan he's the best of his era, but unlike Kun, Revan has FAR, FAR more combat experience then Exar, being as though he championed a war between pretty much the most deadly non-force using warriors in the galaxy, and defeating their leader in hand to hand combat also notes of his physical and combat skills. He then follows a war with Mandalorians by a war with the Jedi, and we know he massacred the Sith Academy by himself as well as tore through the Star Forge fighting droids able to kill Jedi Knights, Dark Jedi, beat Bastila being amped by the SF 4 times and Malak being amped by Jedi Life-force at least twice, all this with no rest as there was a fleet battle going on outside that Bastila was affecting so he had to get to her with haste. Its apparent that he has the combat experience on Kun off the bat.

Now his apperent skill with the blade, coupled with his awesome command of the force and his combat experience (ie: he wouldn't start shitting his pants when Kun busts out the other half of his saber like Vodo did) would in my mind be enough to stalemate Exar Kun, however, Revan is *known* for his Battle Precognition and its this that I believe will take the fight for Revan, as Brianna and the Exile showed that although a force user gets natural hints of where to attack and defend with the force, a force user with a talent in BP as the Exile does is an especially dangerous foe to combat with. And if were to believe that he posses the BP to the extent that KOTOR 2 alludes to ( it surpasses even that of the Greatest Echani who can predict battles months in the future) then his:

-Skill
-Force Power
-Combat Experience
-Battle Precognition
-His knowledge of the layout of the Star Forge

These factors will allow him to defeat Kun."

Sadly, Revan is facing Palpatine now. To his detriment.

Originally posted by Gideon
Sadly, Revan is facing Palpatine now. To his detriment.

Being the most powerful or fastest does not grant a win at all. We have history to prove this. But I will agree that we can only speculate as to how close Revan is to Sidious when it comes to power.

I will say this though to say the Revan is not at a certain level with the feats that he has would be saying that everyone in that era was quite weak which would be foolish to say.